When in Salt lake city last April, I found an expert Irish researcher who taught me how to find the land records using the 1851-1871 Irish census records,( yes there was a census but the governement destroyed after taking out statistics.)along with Griffith Evaluation and the Townland books. If you know y our townland then you need to find the barony and the Poor Law Union. Once you find the Poor Law Union you can find the ELECTORAL DIVISION for your townland and then you can easily find the land records for your area and family. You need to go to www.familysearch.com then click on library catalogue,then put in Your County and Ireland example, westmeath top line, bottom line, Ireland. this will take you to all they have on the county. scroll down to land and property, click. then when you get land and property at upper top see added details..click that and you will be at the electoral districts. Find your electoral district name for y our townland and then it will give you the LDS film to send for. When you get the film go to y our electoral division and there you will find all the tennants, not just owners of land, renters , etc. The head of household only, but what a find. I was able to find mine. You can also order the 1851or-1871 microfiche from LDS(9at 15cents each to order) These have all the townlands, county, barony, parish, poor law union and electoral divisions on them. I will be glad to answer any questions if you have them. Charlotte Smith -----Original Message----- From: Michael Brennan <michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk> To: IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, November 05, 2001 2:44 PM Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Family History Library Catalogue at LDS + Additional info