Having only now experienced this virus & the problems in removing it ie Norton--McAfee & PC-cillin failed to remove it or detect it ---I thought it might be helpful to let others know how I finally removed it. At the time it arrived I belonged to 9 or more lists---some detected the virus & some didn't It seems Laois county ,Genanz, Leonard nor Delaney lists didn,t but others did so & removed me from their lists. As it was necessary to stay off line to prevent further problems to others & having to delete incoming mail until the problem was solved I no doubt missed some helpful info. If anyone has mailed me without reply please resubmit if possible. It was necessary to search Google for "Badtrans virus & follow the directions"--after removing all 3 files specified the virus now appears to have disappeared.\ I have installed new software but don't feel especially confident now that they are completely safe even when updated constantly. If anyone has better ideas please let me know. Roger Delaney In Sunny Caves Beach NSW rocky@fastlink.com.au Fax (02) 49713750