This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cdan5977 Surnames: allen salsman giles Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/952.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: ethan jr's father married emma r salsman in 1910 in essex mass. he was a typewriter salseman. ethan was born in 1910. he went to live with his grand parents( williamr salsman and maria crosthwaithe)when he was 9 or 10.? we lost track of his father then. rumor has it he died in 1930 suicide? we don't know the name of his parents except that they were well to do (grandpa Ethan jr 1910 talked about visiting them across from prospect park in brooklyn ny in a big brownstone with servants and dressing for dinner and finger bowls. they were quakers and are buried in friends cemetary in prospect park brooklyn ny? emma re married frank elton giles in merrick long island and moved to saugerties ny. we have a letter from ethan jr to his mother on nov 5 1932 from saugus mass to 1435 e 3rd street brooklyn ny ethan jr married martha farrier in brooklyn ny 1932. they had lived in valley stream long island until nov 1945. then they moved to saugerties ny. they had 14 children and ! one baby who died as an infant. some were born in long island ny. elaine allen wolff- elizabeth joan martin-alberta judith brandt ( my mom)-vestella madison- ethana mattie bosch-ethan allen-william allen -steven allen- frank allen - jean tomi beck -linda coddington larry allen(twins)- robert allen -debbie gogolski. as i get more dates and such from my mother i will send them to you. it was great to see your post . we didn't know we were irish. ps my mother said the origional salsman name was saltzman. it was changed by an english schoolmaster who said the german name should be properly anglosized (some time after 1816) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.