Hi there, My great-grandfather, Gilbert James SUTCLIFFE was born of the parents James SUTCLIFFE and Fanny (DIXON) in 1857 in Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, England. My research thus far has located the marriage certificate for James and Fanny, who were married on 23 Mar 1856 in Manchester, Lancaster, England. My 2nd great-grandfather James SUTCLIFFE is listed, in British census records from 1851 thru 1891, as being born in Ireland. In particular, the 1881 census lists him as being born about 1832 in Abbeyleix, Queens County (now Leix/Laois), Leinster, Ireland. According to the census records, * James SUTCLIFFE was residing in Liverpool in 1851; * In 1861, he was living in Hoole with his wife and first two children; * In 1871, he was living in Chester, Cheshire, with his wife and six children; * By 1881, he was widowed with seven children and still living in Chester, Cheshire; * In 1891, James was still widowed and still living in Chester, Cheshire, with four of his adult children; and * He passed away on 14 May 1896 in Chester, Cheshire. Using http://www.familysearch.org <http://www.familysearch.org/> , I have located a James SUTLIFF, christened on 16 Oct 1831 in Abbeyleix, Laoighis, Ireland - born of the parents Gilbert SUTLIFF and Elizabeth SPRATT. I now need some way in which to confirm that this James SUTLIFF is indeed my 2nd great-grandfather. * Where could I find his birth record? What churches were there in Abbeyleix at the time? * Were there any other SUTLIFF families living in Abbeyleix at the time? * ? If so, then I would like to link up with the LDS church member who filed these records in order to trace the remaining family tree? Can anyone out there assist me in my quest? Regards, David L. Sutcliffe (Dave) IT Consultant and Lecturer 66 Springfield Road, Brighton, England, BN16DE United Kingdom (NEW) Tel: +44-1273-500036(home/work/fax), +44-7769-701949(mobile) (NEW) <mailto:[email protected]> mailto:[email protected] (NEW)

David, Could not locate the names in your posting but did find these two Sut* mrgs in Queens, that may interest you I have no connection to this surname Bob Cdn -------------------------- WILDE, Isaac Marriage Wife: Jane SUTCLIFFE Marriage Date: 7 Feb 1856 Recorded in: Abbey Leix, Queens, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Husband's Father: Thomas WILDE Wife's Father: John SUTCLIFFE Source: FHL Film 101372 Dates: 1856 - 1856 SUTLIFFE, Thomas Marriage Wife: Deborah NEWMAN Marriage Date: 12 Jul 1847 Recorded in: Abbeyleix, Queens, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Husband's Father: Thomas SUTLIFFE Wife's Father: Robert NEWMAN Source: FHL Film 101282 Dates: 1847 - 1847 ======================== David Sutcliffe wrote: <SNIP>... My great-grandfather, Gilbert James SUTCLIFFE was born of the parents James SUTCLIFFE and Fanny (DIXON) in 1857 in Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, England. My research thus far has located the marriage certificate for James and Fanny, who were married on 23 Mar 1856 in Manchester, Lancaster, England..... =========================