This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2815.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: If you need any help or the web address of the foundation you would need to get in touch with me by regular email. codeannette@yahoo.ca There was a lot of marriage to cousins in those days, even first cousins was quite normal, not just the old country. Annette Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Judith48108 Surnames: Fitzpatrick Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2815.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am most grateful for your response. I will follow up on your recommendations. As I was reading an email from a Fitzpatrick relative in Wisconsin, USA she mentioned that she believed "John Fitzpatrick" married "Elizabeth Fitzpatrick"...I am not sure if this is correct; she received the info from a family member who is now deceased. She also said when John and Elizabeth came to the US they only brought 2 of their children and left the others (unknown number and names)behind. I will try to familiarize myself with the links you sent. I am a bit of a novice at this. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2815.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are recorded 10 John Fitzpatrick's born between 1807 and 1817. 1809, 1810, 1812, 1814 Elizabeth Ryan born 1812 & 1819 marriages for John Fitzpatrick 159 between 1824-1834 there are 16. marriages for Elizabeth Ryan 1821, 1822, 1834 The average age of marriage is 20, whereas with the dates ou give John would of been 17 and elizabeth 15? We allthink people got married really early but that isn't generally so but to have an average you do need some before and some after. No record with both names for children. Records these dates are Parish records, can be found online at the Latter Day Saints (previous site-link)microfilm taken from the National Library collection but neither have/had complete records. The foundation records were locally collected from parish registers. Sometimes you can find some parish records on either of these two websites depending on the county. www.censusfinder.com United Kingdom Ireland County www.igp-web.com County Plus odds and ends of other records. Other records are the Tithe records of 1820-30's maybe found on the above two websites or on Ancestry Irish records. Griffith Valuations 1846-1874 and in 1851 in Queens/Laois. If John Fitzpatrick was still in Ireland in 1851 this example maybe him in the 8 John Fitzpatricks in this Parish: John Fitzpatrick, Parish of Clonenagh & Clonagheen, Townland of Mountrath tenant of Chas. H. Coote property #80 House, outbuildings and land 18 acres 2 roods 5 perches There are 18 Ryan's in the Parish and 6 in the Townland of Mountrath. There are two other Fitzpatrick's in this townland a James and Valentine. www.askaboutireland.ie and www.failteromhat.com Annette Code Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2815.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are recorded 10 John Fitzpatrick's born between 1807 and 1817. 1809, 1810, 1812, 1814 Elizabeth Ryan born 1812 & 1819 marriages for John Fitzpatrick 159 between 1824-1834 there are 16. marriages for Elizabeth Ryan 1821, 1822, 1834 The average age of marriage is 20, whereas with the dates ou give John would of been 17 and elizabeth 15? We allthink people got married really early but that isn't generally so but to have an average you do need some before and some after. No record with both names for children. Records these dates are Parish records, can be found online at the Latter Day Saints (previous site-link)microfilm taken from the National Library collection but neither have/had complete records. The foundation records were locally collected from parish registers. Sometimes you can find some parish records on either of these two websites depending on the county. www.censusfinder.com United Kingdom Ireland County www.igp-web.com County Plus odds and ends of other records. Other records are the Tithe records of 1820-30's maybe found on the above two websites or on Ancestry Irish records. Griffith Valuations 1846-1874 and in 1851 in Queens/Laois. If John Fitzpatrick was still in Ireland in 1851 this example maybe him in the 8 John Fitzpatricks in this Parish: John Fitzpatrick, Parish of Clonenagh & Clonagheen, Townland of Mountrath tenant of Chas. H. Coote property #80 House, outbuildings and land 18 acres 2 roods 5 perches There are two other Fitzpatrick's in this townland a James and Valentine. www.askaboutireland.ie and www.failteromhat.com Annette Code Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2795.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I find this familiar but here goes anyway so it maybe too late and you have found them already. A Foundation of ireland's genealogy office has a data base. Do a whole Ireland search and find Redmond Walsh's born in Laois 1806 and 1812....... Redmond Walsh and wife Bridget Brennan have 8 matches for children. No records with a wife Rose Sweeney. Annette Code Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2795.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I find this familiar but here goes anyway so it maybe too late and you have found them already. A Foundation of ireland's genealogy office has a data base. Do a whole Ireland search and find Redmond Walsh's born in Laois 1806 and 1812....... Redmond Walsh and wife Bridget Brennan have 8 matches for children. No records with a wife Rose Sweeney. Annette Code Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2802.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Siblings of Margaret's are: Michael 6 Mar 1868 Mitchelstown #101163 John 22 Mar 1872 #255854 William Burke and Margaret Corbett. Annette Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2802.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Edward Delaney - no record on the LDS CD set,there is a match to the Foundation records for him, but not Patrick. Annette Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2804.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Catherine Delaney between 1864-1875 Michael Delaney and wife Judith Byrne. Perhaps born between 1858 and 1864. The Foundation has 292 records for Catherine Delaney's, 45 between 1866-1965 but only 1 with father Michael 1865, but no record if add the mother's name. Removed Catherine and just did a search with both parents names and 3 children with the parents names. The names are not given but a slightly reduced price for all three. codeannette@yahoo.ca by regular email for the Foundation's website. Annette Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2803.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a CD of births from the Latter Day Saints, a check with both parents name give no children born between 1864-1875 in Ireland. I thought perhaps it was spelling, so just tried Michael in Queens/Laois. Lots of Michael's had children in that time but none with a wife Ellen Haslam, perhaps they emigrated after marriage? Annette Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2803.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is a online bmd not-for-profit website made up of almost all Ireland's county genealogy offices. There is a small fee. Ellen Haslam 1840 for birth and 1858 for marriage Michael Delaney 2 x 1858 marriages Michael Dalaney 29 from 1835-1845. If you get a birth record it should contain a father and a mother's name and mothers maiden name, place/parish and date. A marriage record contains only both father's names, place/parish and date. Records before 1864 are Parish records and for RC are located in individual Parish's and the National Library in Dublin, also the Latter Day Saints website www.familysearch.org - go to "previous site" as the new website is for records after 1864. The Foundation above records have locally sourced and civil registration records. In the Griffith Valuation 1850 there are listed 742 Delaney's and of them 74 named Michael. There are 29 Haslam's. Since Michael didn't marry till 1858 unlikely he is listed with his own land, more likely father/grandfather Mountrath is a townland and a town in the Union of Mountmellick, in two Parish's 1) Clonenagh & Clonagheen and 2) Parish Offerlane. Griffith Valuation of 1850 has 9 Haslem's living in the Parish Clonenagh & Clongheen, none townland of Mountrath Andew, Richard, John, Edward, Finton, Thomas None in the Parish of Offerlane.(look to their children's names for clues) The Delaney's in the Parish of Offerlane total 144 and just one in the the townland of Mountrath is named Martin occupies property and is a tenant of Sir Chas. H. Coote. Bart # 1a outbuilding and land 14 acresss 1 rood ands 15 perches. He must have a house but there are 14 Martin Delaney's in the Parish of Offerlane. There are 176 Delaney's in the Parish of Clonenagh & Clonagheen, and 17 of those in the townland of Mountrath. Commercial Directories: 1824 Thomas Haslam, Montrath - publican 1894 Charles Haslem, Mountrath/Mountmellnick - grocer Moore St. Charles B. Haslem, foundry St. spirit dealer 1846 Michael Delaney, grocer, Moore St. Montrath 1870 Michael Delaney, Moore Street, shopkeeper in groeries and sundries 1881 same Annette Code Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jamesdelaney0116 Surnames: Haslam Haslem, Delany, Delaney Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2705.2.2.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sharen...I would be interested in the other Haslam Families in the Maryborough Area. Thank-you for your kindness, peace, jim delaney. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jamesdelaney0116 Surnames: Haslam,Haslem Delany, Delaney Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2705.2.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sharen..this is MY Ellen Haslam born 1840...Could you send me a Copy to my E-mail? Thank-you!! jim delaney Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dancer1951 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2816.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi again I've just done a quick search for James & Mary's marriage on the Laoise site, and it's there. It will cost you ?5 to access it, but well worth it, I would think. I always find the sponsors names of particular interest (on both marriage & baptismal certs). I've purchased hundreds of records from IFHF, and personaly find it a wonderful site as without it there's no way I would have been able to find the info. By the way, in case anybody thinks I'm advertising, I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION other than being a very satisfied client!! Colette Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maggiedooley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2816.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hi colette thank i may try that i have them in the census in 1911 but i havent got a marriage cert for james and mary i will try that i think it would be worth paying for it.As i have came to a dead end on the free searches. thanks for you time maggie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Have you checked the IFHF site for births/marriages? (pay site) This is the email address for the RCB susan.hood@rcbdub.org - I found Susan Hood quite helpful when I contacted her a few months ago. Good luck. Colette > From: sandra.gardiner@verizon.net > To: irl-laois@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:46:01 -0400 > Subject: Re: [LAOIS] Stoker, Gardiner > > I would expect to find something in the 1700s through 1850 at the latest. > Thank you for anything you can find. > I will call the Church of Ireland Library in Dublin again. > A few years ago someone there gave me the impression that there were NO > surviving records. > Sandy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dancer1951 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/426.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Perhaps Thomas Tobin was married and that's why he wasn't with the family in Clonbrook. Check the census again. Good luck Colette Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dancer1951 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2816.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi On IFHF (pay site), there are 9 matches of Tobins born to James Tobin and Mary Ryan between the years 1860 and 1884. Cost if you buy all 9 certs at the same time would be ?20. You could also search for the parents marriage. Good luck Colette Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jamesdelaney0116 Surnames: Haslam, Haslem, Delany, Delaney.. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2755.2.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank-you, Jack. Peace, jim delaney. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Haggerty" <smhaggerty@shaw.ca> To: <irl-laois@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [LAOIS] Stoker, Gardiner > Sandy, until a few years ago the registers were held in the parish. They > were sent to Dublin sometime after 2002. I have personally been through > them > in the RCBL, but they won't do the research for you. You'd have to hire > someone to do it on your behalf. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandy Gardiner" <sandra.gardiner@verizon.net> > To: <irl-laois@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 1:46 PM > Subject: Re: [LAOIS] Stoker, Gardiner > > >>I would expect to find something in the 1700s through 1850 at the latest. >> Thank you for anything you can find. >> I will call the Church of Ireland Library in Dublin again. >> A few years ago someone there gave me the impression that there were NO >> surviving records. >> Sandy > > > ========IRL-LAOIS Mailing List======== > Leix/Laois websites: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Leix/ > http://www.igp-web.com/laois/index.htm > Add your Leix/Laois surname to the Surname Registry. > Please send all messages using PLAIN TEXT; for assistance see: > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/listadmins/plaintext.html > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-LAOIS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message