Looking for my gg grandparents, David & Margaret GRANT. They lived near Abbeyleix from approx. 1840-1865. They had at least 1 child, my g grandmother, Annie GRANT. Annie was born in 1837. She may have had a brother, John born in 1834. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Best Regards, Wayne

Does anyone know whether or not the LDS have filmed the Hearth Money Roll for county Laois and if so do you knwo the film reference number. Please and thanks. Jane

Hi Listers, Old and New. I am still interested in hearing from anyone who may have information about the following places in Co.Laois. Ireland. The names of the places are: BALLICKMOYLER ARLESS BALLYNAGALL COOPER HILL Anyone who may have stories, tales, photos or postcards about these places. Family names who lived or worked in these areas. Industries associated with these villages in the past. Anything at all that will help me build up a picture of what life was like in these areas during the 18 and 1900's. 1. There was a Brass Band in Arless in the 1920's, what happened to it? 2. There was a Tile Factory in Arless, but where was it located and how big was it? 3. Where was the stone brought from for the building of the present Arless Chapel? 4. There were Dancing Boards in Arless in the 1940's, but where were the Boards located? 5. What year was the Technology School ('Tech school') built in Arless? 6. Where is the place known as Ballickmoyler Upper located (mentioned in Griffiths Valuation)? I have searched every map that I can lay my hands on but have not found this location printed on any map. These are just some of the questions I have about this part of Co.Laois. I hope someone will be able to help me with my work. Regards and good luck with your research Michael Brennan Kent England Home: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk Work: mbrennan@ts-ltd.co.uk Visit the updated web site of my BRENNAN Family History and some information about the area they lived in: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com Also researching the MORAN's, BRENNAN's & KELLY's of Co.Laois Ireland.

Irish surnames are very important, especially the unusual ones and there are so many unusual names to be found in our records. What is an Irish Surname? First of all, we have the question "What exactly is an Irish surname?" Is it a name which originated in Ireland and was only ever found in Ireland? Is it a name as gaeilge (through Irish)? Is it a name which was brought in to Ireland with the Normans? Or does that remain a name of Norman origin, which is found in Ireland. If a person tells someone that their Grandparents came from Ireland and that story is handed down through generations for 300 years and then some member of that family decides to trace their ancestry - and they just know that their ancestors came from Ireland, and they ask a question somewhere - a mail list, a message board or at a genealogical society meeting and other people tell them "That is not an Irish name because it is not found in the Mathesons Report on Irish surnames and it is not found in any of the books published by Edward McLysaght", then I ask you what is the descendant to do? If they are told that the name is found in England, Scotland, Wales, France or Spain, but not Ireland, by those who possess the publications I've mentioned, where do they turn? If their ancestors said they came from Ireland, then to my mind, those people must have been born in Ireland regardless of where their parents or grandparents came from. <snip> Variations Let me give you some examples, Easy enough to spot the variations Achmooty* /Aughmuty* /Aghmuty /Ahmuty /Auchmuty Ahearn* /Aheran /Ahern /Aherne* /Ahearn* /Aheron Archdeacon* /Archdekin /Arcedeckne /Aercedeckne /Arsdekin /Arcedeickne Bagnall* /Bagnel /Bagnell /Bagnal /Bagenal Bailey* /Bailie/ Bailie*/ Baillie/ Bailly /Baily /Bayley /Baylie /Bayly* Barber* /Barbor/ Barbour* Daily/ Daley/ Dally/ Daly* /Dawley* /Dalyly Delahayde /Delahide/ Delahoide /Delahoyde With a bit of guesswork: Eayres/ Ayres* /Eyres/ Eyre*/ Ayre* Ellard*/ Aylward* /Elliard Fair* /Phair* /Faire Fay* /Fee*/Foy*/Fey*/Fye* Archbold* /Archaball And then we come to the difficult ones, the names which sound the same but look different. Adlum/Odlum - easy enough Agar/Eagar - not too bad either Agarty/Hegarty Aldin/Heldan Armour/Larmour Aghoon/Whitesteed - McLysaght says so, different counties! Cullinane/Quillinane Cuddy/Quiddihy Coyd/Quoid Cuogly/Quogly Clendinning/Glendinning Coggin/Goggin Innis/Ennis Ivory/Evory Kilfoyle/Guilfoyle Felan/Phelan Walter/Qualter MacWhirter/MacQuirter and if you click on this link you will find the full article plus links to some surnames sorted alphabetically A-J (about 4,000 in all including variations) http://www.from-ireland.net/gene/surnamedisc.htm and netscape viewers go here: http://www.from-ireland.net/netscapeviewers/gene/surnamediscnet.htm Jane

even if you never had an interest in Irish History and you couldn't give a sugar as to who he was......and you're only interested in Genealogy as per the strict definition of the word - well, this man wrote something that should be of interest to every person who ever has done or will do Irish Genealogy and something that I have seen many a person ask about on every mail list I am subscribed to.......... T.W. Rolleston said: "the finest qualities of the population that inhabit this island seemed to be combined in him, developed to their highest power, and coloured deeply with whatever it is in character and temperament that makes the Irish one of the most separate of races" Thomas Francis Meagher said, in an oration at Conciliation Hall, Burgh Quay, Dublin: "In the day of victory, to which he had so often looked with a panting heart and a glowing soul, they will beckon us to the grave, bid us pluck a laurel from the nation's brow, and place it on his tomb." Sir Charles Gavan Duffy, described him as "the most notable Irishman of the generation to which he belonged" In the report on his funeral the 'Nation' wrote: "Irish soil holds no more precious dust than his. ......Souls like his never die, but make a part of the history and the heart of their country forever." Seventy years after his death, Arthur Griffiths of the 1916 rising said of him "The prophet I followed throughout my life, the man whose words and teachings I tried to translate into practise in politics, the man whom I revered above all Irish patriots was......." and yet - when I search the web I find little or nothing about this man - his name, an bit here and there mentioning that he was a founder of the Nation, a few of his poems........ so I've put a few things about him on the web - just a few :-) including that article which should be of interest to every person who ever has had an interest of any sort in Irish genealogy...........only it's a case of 'seek and ye shall find' Jane :-) http://www.from-ireland.net/history/thomasdavis.htm and netscape viewers go here: http://www.from-ireland.net/netscapeviewers/History/thomasdavisnet.htm

Seeking any information re Michael LEONARD (from Ballybrood Limerick0& Mary BOURKE (from Tipperrary dairymaid) who left Glasgow aboard "Oamaru" 24 October 1877 arriving Bluff NZ 13th January 1878. Roger Delaney In Sunny Caves Beach NSW rocky@fastlink.com.au Fax (02) 49713750

I recently visited the area around Ballinakill, and on a narrow country road (more like a track, and no dwellings in close proximity) saw a very unusual sight ... a tree with almost every branch/twig tied with scraps of different types/designs/patterns of material ... some looking quite dirty and ragged. Very odd and very 'weird' ... wondered if this was some sort of local 'custom' ... anyone know anything about this?? Regards Jane (Saddleworth, West Yorks, England) Researching DONNELLY, COSTIGAN (possibly also MURPHY) in Ballinakill Co. Laois and Carlow Town Co. Carlow --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.251 / Virus Database: 124 - Release Date: 26/04/01

Would appreciate any information from Census or any other record re Delaneys & Dormer in CLONBROCK & or AUGHREENA ---Parish of Doonane County Laois -(Queens ) circa 1814--1911 Roger Delaney In Sunny Caves Beach NSW rocky@fastlink.com.au Fax (02) 49713750

Could anyone with access to 1881 census for UK check for William Leonard & Margaret Sheehan ( had a daughter Bridget Agnes abt 1881/3 & lived at Ballybrood in RC Parish of Caherconlish-Caherline in County Limerick. Only Bridie left for Australia it seems so remaining family may show in 1881 or 1901--1911 (Irish Census) William's father John was married to Mary DORAN Roger Delaney In Sunny Caves Beach NSW Australia rocky@fastlink.com.au Fax (02) 49713750

Greetings from New Mexico! I'm researching the BERGIN and STRINGER families in Co Laois. I just received an address for an ancestor's residence in the mid 1800s. The address reads: Joseph Stinger Knockanolan Castle Durrow Post Office Queens County Ireland. I don't know much about the geography of Ireland and am not sure how to read the address. I'm assuming that Durrow is the town in which Joseph Stringer lived; but what is the reference to Knockanolan Castle? or does the address read Knockanolan, Castle Durrow? If anyone could shed some light upon how I might use this address to further my research in Laois, I'd appreciate it. I'm learning as I go... Thanks, Daniel Powers Albuquerque NM

Hello, This is my first posting to this list. I, too, have Dooley ancestors from County Laois. My g-grandfather was Emory Fenton Dooley, born 1842, in or around Mountrath (?). He emigrated to New York state in the 1850's with his mother, Anne (Duggan) Dooley (d. 1872) and brothers Lawrence (1845-1930) and Martin (1849-1892) and a sister, Julia. Their father's name may have been John. The story is that Anne was widowed and emigrated with her children. I would welcome information, suggestions, etc. Thank you. Margaret Dooley Ohto mohto@gol.com

I come from the townland of Kilrory in eastern Laois and I have transcribed the inscriptions from Moyanna and Corclone, if anyone is interested in these. They are in the Catholic parish of Stradbally and between the town of Stradbally and the village of Vicarstown. They "serve" the latter particularly. Patrick J Shortall

Greetings, My Dooley relatives are also from Laois but I haven't been able to figure out where. My ggGrandfather was Richard Dooly and, as far as I have been able to determine, his father's name was Patrick. Richard was born in 1804 and married Catherine Hickey. They had three boys befoe leaving Ireland and immigrating to Wisconsin. Catherine's brother in Wisconsin supposedly paid their fare. If you find anything, I would be very interested in knowing. I will share whatever information I have. Mary Alice Dooley Farmington, Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: <MDo41@aol.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 3:27 PM Subject: Dooley Ancestors > Hello Everyone, > I'm starting research into my Irish relatives. Denis Patrick Dooley was born > in Queen's County, Ireland in 1820 and emigrated to Canada in 1841. That's > all I know. Can anyone help steer me in the right direction? Thanks for any > help you can offer. > > Best Regards, > Mike Dooley > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > >

Hello Everyone, I'm starting research into my Irish relatives. Denis Patrick Dooley was born in Queen's County, Ireland in 1820 and emigrated to Canada in 1841. That's all I know. Can anyone help steer me in the right direction? Thanks for any help you can offer. Best Regards, Mike Dooley

Hi there Thanks so much to all who have helped me here. Does anyone have any more information, please? Children Joseph, William, Edward and Henry moved to Montreal Canada. The rest remained in Ireland. I am interested in any of these families. Judy, in BC Descendants of Henry Quelch 1 Henry Quelch 1795 - b: 1795 in Johnstown, Killkeny, Ireland d: in Ireland .. +Mary Purcell 1798 - b: Abt. 1798 in Johnstown, Killkeny, Ireland m: 1814 in Ireland d: in Ireland ...... 2 Joseph Quelch 1816 - b: Abt. 1816 in Ireland d: in Canada Baptism: Rathdowne, Ossary Diose .......... +Jane ( Fury) Fleury m: June 11, 1844 in Notre Dame, Montreal, Ille De Montreal, Quebec, Canada d: in Canada ...... 2 John Quelch 1817 - b: January 24, 1817 in Shragh, Johnstown, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland Baptism: Rathedowne, Ossary Dioses, Ireland ...... 2 Honora Quelch 1818 - b: December 25, 1818 in Shragh, Johnstown, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland Baptism: Rathdowne, Ossary Dioses, Ireland ...... 2 William John Quelch 1821 - b: February 18, 1821 in Shragh, Johnstown, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland d: in Canada Baptism: Rathdowne, Ossary Dioses, Ireland .......... +Maria Dowd 1825 - b: Abt. 1825 in Ireland m: September 28, 1857 in Ile De Montreal, Quebec, Canada d: in Canada ...... 2 Patrick Quelch 1823 - b: March 23, 1823 in Shragh, Johnstown, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland Baptism: Rathdowne, Ossary Dioses, Ireland ...... 2 Henry Edward Quelch 1825 - 1863 b: August 24, 1825 in Shragh, Johnstown, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland d: 1863 in Canada Baptism: Rathdowne, Ossary Dioses, Ireland .......... +Bridget Maher 1827 - b: Abt. 1827 m: June 05, 1854 in Montreal, Ille De Montreal, Quebec, Canada d: in Brooklyn, New York, USA ...... 2 Ellen Quelch 1827 - b: May 13, 1827 in Shragh, Johnstown, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland Baptism: Rathdowne, Ossary Dioses, Ireland ...... 2 Mary Quelch 1829 - b: June 29, 1829 in Shragh, Johnstown, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland Baptism: Rathdowne, Ossary Dioses, Ireland ...... 2 Edward W. Quelch 1832 - b: July 11, 1832 in Shragh, Johnstown, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland d: in Canada Baptism: Rathdowne, Ossary Dioses, Ireland ...... 2 Margaret Quelch 1834 - b: January 21, 1834 in Shragh, Johnstown, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland Baptism: Rathdowne, Ossary Dioses, Ireland

Jane, Also researching the Costigan name with connection to surnames Delaney, Conroy, Fitzpatrick and McAvoy in the Philadelphia area and Schuykill County PA (railroad workers - switchtenders, police) 1860 onward. Do any of these surnames connect to your Costigan? >From: "Jane Coop" <jane.fiesta@talk21.com> >Reply-To: <jane.fiesta@talk21.com> >To: IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Books relating to Co. Laois >Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 18:53:29 +0100 > >I have 2 books: >"Gravestone inscriptions for Killeshin, Sleaty, Graiguecullen, Mayo, Arles, >Doonane, Castletown, Rathaspick, Shrule, Rathnure" > >"Laois around Famine Times" This is a re-hash of the Lewis Topographical >Dictionary of Ireland 1837 and some from Slater's Directory 1846. > >I am prepared to do any look-ups, but don't expect immediate replies. >Jane >Researching DONNELLY and COSTIGAN in Ballinakill and Carlow Town >(1825-1845) >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.251 / Virus Database: 124 - Release Date: 26/04/01 > > >==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Jane, would you please send any information on Fennelly and Neil spelling variations from Doonane, Rathaspick, and Arles? Thank you, Joyce > > "Gravestone inscriptions for Killeshin, Sleaty, Graiguecullen, Mayo, Arles, > Doonane, Castletown, Rathaspick, Shrule, Rathnure" > > "Laois around Famine Times" This is a re-hash of the Lewis Topographical > Dictionary of Ireland 1837 and some from Slater's Directory 1846. > >

I have 2 books: "Gravestone inscriptions for Killeshin, Sleaty, Graiguecullen, Mayo, Arles, Doonane, Castletown, Rathaspick, Shrule, Rathnure" "Laois around Famine Times" This is a re-hash of the Lewis Topographical Dictionary of Ireland 1837 and some from Slater's Directory 1846. I am prepared to do any look-ups, but don't expect immediate replies. Jane Researching DONNELLY and COSTIGAN in Ballinakill and Carlow Town (1825-1845) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.251 / Virus Database: 124 - Release Date: 26/04/01

Hi Tom, I too have been wondering for a long time why we have two lists for the same small county. There seems to me to be little if any difference. Most messages are cross-posted, which wastes everyone's time and bandwidth and costs more for those who pay for time online, and there is normally very little traffic on either anyway. BTW Tom, Rootsweb doesn't start the lists, private individuals do. All Rootsweb does is provide the list facilities. Wouldn't it make more sense to consolidate the LEIX and LAOIS lists - someone???? Listowners???? Regards Pamela At 12:21 29.05.01 -0400, Tom Wilde wrote: >I have just subscribed to the IRL-LEIX-L Mailing List at rootsweb.com >because I was (a) wondering if there was anything that I was missing >and (b) curious as to why rootsweb.com would have two separate mailing >lists for the same county. What's the difference between IRL-LEIX-L >and IRL-LAOIS-L (other than the spelling)? >Just wondering... > Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ.

I quite agree with both comments. I have often wondered why there were two lists for the same county. The fact that there is very little traffic begs the question as to how we can promote the list to other people from Co.Laois who are on the Internet, but are unaware of this particular forum. What about asking local newspapers in the county? Any suggestions anyone On another note Pamela, are you related in anyway to the Dowling's from Coolane, Killeshin, Co.Laois??? Regards and good luck with your research Michael Brennan Kent England Home: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk Also researching the MORAN's, BRENNAN's & KELLY's of Co.Laois Ireland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dowling" <iregenie@gmx.net> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Laois or Leix? > Hi Tom, > > I too have been wondering for a long time why we have two lists for the > same small county. There seems to me to be little if any difference. Most > messages are cross-posted, which wastes everyone's time and bandwidth and > costs more for those who pay for time online, and there is normally very > little traffic on either anyway. > > BTW Tom, Rootsweb doesn't start the lists, private individuals do. All > Rootsweb does is provide the list facilities. > > Wouldn't it make more sense to consolidate the LEIX and LAOIS lists - > someone???? Listowners???? > > Regards > Pamela > > > At 12:21 29.05.01 -0400, Tom Wilde wrote: > >I have just subscribed to the IRL-LEIX-L Mailing List at rootsweb.com > >because I was (a) wondering if there was anything that I was missing > >and (b) curious as to why rootsweb.com would have two separate mailing > >lists for the same county. What's the difference between IRL-LEIX-L > >and IRL-LAOIS-L (other than the spelling)? > >Just wondering... > > > > Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ. >