-----Original Message----- From: Roger Delaney [mailto:rocky4@hotkey.net.au] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 8:49 AM To: DELANEY-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Delaney family--Clonbrock-County Laois Looking for information on Delaneys from county Laois-Queens 1814 denis & Judith DORMER Roger Delaney In Sunny Caves Beach NSW fax 0249713750 rocky@fastlink.com.au

Killabban is a Parish in the southeast part of Co. Laois (Queens Co.). Urglin is a Parish in the northern part of Co. Carlow. Dunleckny is also a Parish in Carlow, in the west central part of the county. This information is included in Brian Mitchell's book "A New Genealogical Atlas Of Ireland" published by Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., of Baltimore. I bought it at Barnes & Noble for US$18.95.

Jane at jane.fiesta@talk21.com writes: << Also interested in Urglin (Co. Carlow?) and Dunleckney locations. >> Jane, Both of these townlands are located in Carlow, in their respective same-named civil parishes. Urglin (or Rutland) is located about two miles due east of Carlow town, about a mile north of the R 726 going east. Dunleckny is just a mile north of Bagenalstown, to the east of the R 705 and lying along the east bank of the Barrow. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Does anyone know the location for Killeban Co. Laois. I have the Discovery series map if anyone could kindly give me the map ref. Was (is) there an RC church at this place? Also interested in Urglin (Co. Carlow?) and Dunleckney locations. Any information welcomed. Thank you Jane (Saddleworth, West Yorks) Reseaching DONNELLY and COSTIGAN (Ballinakill, Co. Laois and Graigue/Slaty/Carlow Town, Co. Carlow) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 18/09/01

Do you mean Kilabban..If so then it is down near Kilkenny and Carlow on the right side of the map..It is in the Catholic parish of Arles according to the information I have from Ireland. Charlotte Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Coop <jane.fiesta@talk21.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Killeban location? > Does anyone know the location for Killeban Co. Laois. > I have the Discovery series map if anyone could kindly give me the map ref. > Was (is) there an RC church at this place? > Also interested in Urglin (Co. Carlow?) and Dunleckney locations. > Any information welcomed. > Thank you > Jane (Saddleworth, West Yorks) > Reseaching DONNELLY and COSTIGAN (Ballinakill, Co. Laois and > Graigue/Slaty/Carlow Town, Co. Carlow) > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 18/09/01 > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > Remember...virus announcements and list ettiquette are the province of the listowner. If you have a concern contact: > Ninah@carolina.rr.com >

It seems I left out a vital part in this message, how to change from Rich Text to Plain Text. see below Please could I ask all those people who send out their emails in RICH TEXT (HTML) format to change their settings to PLAIN TEXT format as it would make life so much easier when replying. RICH TEXT (HTML) is used in Web Sites and not Emails. To change your Email from Rich Text to Plain Text.in Outlook Express open Outlook Express as if you were going to download your Emails. Look at the Menu at the top of the page and you will see 'Tools'. Click on this and then scroll down until you see 'Options' and click on 'Options' In Options, at the top you will see a row of tags. Look for the tag which says 'Send'. when the page opens you will see near the bottom 'Mail sending format' & 'News sending format' HTML & PLAIN TEXT. Click the box next to PLAIN TEXT for both of these items. At the bottom you will see a button which is highlighted 'Apply', click on this then click on 'OK'. All emails will be sent as Plain Text from now on. A big thank you. Regards and good luck with your research Michael Brennan Kent England Home: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk Also researching the KELLY's of Co.Laois Ireland. Check out "Starting out" page on my web site. (There is new info on what records are available in Ireland on my web site) My BRENNAN/MORAN Family: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com

Please could I ask all those people who send out their emails in RICH TEXT (HTML) format to change their settings to PLAIN TEXT format as it would make life so much easier when replying. RICH TEXT (HTML) is used in Web Sites and not Emails. A big thank you. Regards and good luck with your research Michael Brennan Kent England Home: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk Also researching the KELLY's of Co.Laois Ireland. Check out "Starting out" page on my web site. (There is new info on what records are available in Ireland on my web site) My BRENNAN/MORAN Family: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com

May I also add to this important message. I get a lot of people asking for "Look-ups". the problem is they don't tell me what part of Ireland their ancestors came from. This means I have to reply to them and when they come back to me I only get a part of the message. If the initial enquiry hasn't got enough information for me to carry out a search then I reply and ask for more information but I don't keep the initial email otherwise my system would get clogged up with emails awaiting to be actioned. This is a free service. So I would appreciate it if people would put a bit more thought into their queries and read the email before they send it. If I asked someone to do a search for BRENNAN in Ireland I know what I would get back. It's probably unprintable. So please, Think before you send that query. Have I provided enough information? All I ask is that you provide me with a Surname and a County. If I get a town then that's a bonus. In the Subject box please enter: 'Surname, County/Town' and the words 'Look-up'. (without the quotes. Sorry to be such a pain but I do have my own research work to do as well. Regards and good luck with your research Michael Brennan Kent England Home: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk Also researching the KELLY's of Co.Laois Ireland. My BRENNAN/MORAN Family: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com > > Please can we be very clear in our subject title what exactly the content of > > our message is, then everyone can chose quickly which messages to delete > > and which to read. > I agree with Judith! PLEASE make the subject line clear as to content of the > message.... > > There are times when I , - and others too I am sure, - just want a little > genealogy or interesting tidbits about things "Irish". I am able to delete > the discussions that go back and forth as to what the list is really about. > I think folks should be able to express their opinions on the Ireland List, > as long as they are not hurtful to anyone, and if we are in the mood to read > them, then we should be able to do that too. > > When my brain is on "overload" from the September 11th events and I am > worrying about my grandchildren, and what their lives will be like, or > whether my son's Marine unit will be activated and every television station > has bin Laden's picture on it...I turn to my genealogy as a way of forgetting > for a moment the state of the world. > > My genealogy brings me closer to my parents, grandparents and all the others > that have left this earth, and I find comfort in their closeness through my > family research. My Dad's letters to my Mom during WWII from a ship in the > Pacific - and my Grandfather's Christmas card to my Grandmother from the > fields of France during WWI express how they felt at times like this, and > folks are right, we should document our feelings for those to come after us. > > > Please, if you have a thought from the heart, share it with us...if you > choose simply to bicker, keep it to yourself. > > Thanks for letting me express myself, I think the "List Mom" is doing a great > job. > Paula

This history was posted by Jean Rice on IrelandGenWeb. Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 3:03 PM Subject: [IrelandGenWeb] Co. Laois Ireland - A French Refuge Per "Irish Counties," by J. J. Lee: The town of Portarlington, which lies on a bend in the River Barrow not far from the border with neighboring Co. Offaly, is now a quiet backwater of Co. Laois. (Note, Co. Laois is also known as Queen's Co. and Leix, and Co. Offaly is also known as King's Co). In the last paragraph below, is mentioned the survival of Portarlington's church records. After the revocation in 1685 of the Edict of Nantes, which had ensured religious tolerance, French Protestant refugees flocked to what was then the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland in search of places in which they could live in peace. One of the many places they settled was Portarlington, and nowhere did their culture, religion and language survive more tenaciously. Portarlington was surrounded by bogs and forest and therefore sufficiently isolated from the rest of the countryside to maintain a separate identity. Second, the settlement was large enough to be self-sufficient and third, the place had a distinctive character in that an astonishingly high proportion of its families were of noble origin. The establishment of the French communities took place at a time when, in another Irish paradox, Roman Catholic Irish soldiers were fleeing to France after the Jacobite defeat at the hands of King William III, and it was one of William's senior lieutenant's, the Huguenot Henri Massue, Marquis de Ruvigny, later styled Earl of Galway, who got the Portarlington project under way. Portarlington had been laid out for English settlers with a market square and four streets leading from it. But the little town had suffered severe damage during the war, and de Ruvigny personally financed the construction of over 100 houses of unique design. The entrances and gardens were to the rear and blank walls faced the streets. The first wave of French immigrants arrived in 1692, many of whom were pensioned-off soldiers and their families. Most came from the officer class, which, at that time, was made up of sons of noble families. There were six ensigns, one cornet, 16 lieutenants, 12 captains and one lieutenant-colonel. The most elegent and magnificient of all, with his scarlet cloak and silver-buckled breeches was Robert d'Ully, Vicomte de Laval, a man of the royal blood line of King Henri de Navarre. However, the nobles of that era could hardly have been expected to fend for themselves, and a second group of "laboureurs," 13 families in all, arrived from the Swiss cantons where they had taken refuge, and gave the colony a more balanced character. So by the start of the 18th century the foundations of a lasting settlement were laid. There were stories from visitors from neighbouring areas of noblemen sipping a strange drink called :tea" from china cups under trees in the village square; of the wine of Bordeaux being favored over the whiskey of the surrounding countryside. Henri Massue became the undisputed leader of the Huguenot community in Britain and Ireland and was directly involved in the settlement of Portarlington in 1692. A number of forces combined to change the situation, too lengthy to go into here. (Please read about high-church bishop William Moreton, from England, and the minister of the Eglise Francaise de St. Paul (Church of St. Paul), Reverend Benjamin de Daillon, and army chaplain Antoine Ligenier de Bonneval in your library reference books). Suffice it to say, there was a major split in the religous community which lasted 26 years, and the turning point came when 37 families left for Dublin to worship at the French Calvinist churches in the capital, where their distinct language and customs were overwhelmed in a city which was quickly growing to become of the populous in Europe. Meanwhile, Portarlington was becoming increasingly Anglican, and therefore, more an Anglo-Irish town. Today, there are still Irish and Catholic families in the county who bear names such as Blanc and Champ, and families in other parts of the province of Leinster, both Catholic and Protestant, whose Huguenot forebears gave them names such as Dubois, Perrin, Du Moulin and De Mange. All that remains of the Portarlington French connection now are its meticulous records, a few of the old noble houses and an annual French Festival at which the wine of Bordeaux is imbibed in great quantities and snails and frog legs are eaten in abundance. Huguenots made a remarkable contribution to Irish history. The less noble branches of the immigration, notably the weavers who established the Irish poplin industry, now vanished like the immigrants themselves, contributed greatly to the economy of a country which had been ravaged by more than half a century of warfare prior to their arrival. Their memory survives in a county of moorland and bog, pasture and parkland, in the heart of Ireland's Central Plain; a county of level land, except in the northwest where the Slieve Bloom mountains once housed rebel Gaelic chieftains. Portarlington is now a backwater marked by cooling towers of a peat-powered electricity plant. The county town, Portlaois (formerly Maryborough) houses a giant prison, but the best place in which to lock yourself away with the memories of the French and their descendants is the town of Abbeyleix, planned in the 17th century by the local landlord, Viscount de Vesci, a nobleman of Norman descent. Here you will find Morrissey's pub, one of the most convivial and best-preserved bars in Ireland, a place to raise a glass of Bordeaux to the French who have passed on. Morrissey's bar and grocery was founded by E. J. Morrissey in 1775. Almost all the old furnishings remain. In 1876 an additional story was added to the house and according to the manager in 1997, John Lanigan, this was the last time the place was touched. Abbeyleix was the town in which workers made the carpeting for the "Titanic." There is evidently a new Huguenot memorial inscribed with names in Dublin, as well as a Huguenot museum. The records of Portarlington's Eglise Francaise de St. Paul were kept in French from their first entry in 1694, until finally being superseded by English in 1816. Fortunately, thse records were retained locally rather than sent to the Public Record Office in the Four Courts in Dublin, many of whose priceless papers were destroyed in a fire during the civil war in the 1920s. As a result, more is known about the French who peopled Portarlington than is known of the Irish and Anglo-Irish who inhabited the rest of the county. Jean

Hi there! Ireland Genealogy Projects is moving to a new address. Please visit and bookmark: http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com/ This site has the index to all Irish county websites plus other Ireland related projects. Regards, Christina

I did a search of Doonane parish but nothing came up so I had to widen it to Co. Laois. I hope the following are of some help. Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 Delaney, Daniel County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Clonenagh and Clonagheen Location : Clonaddadoran Delaney, James County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Clonenagh and Clonagheen Location : Mountrath (Town of) Delaney, Margaret County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Clonenagh and Clonagheen Location : Factory Street Delaney, Michael County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Clonenagh and Clonagheen Location : Mountrath (Oxpark-Lane) Delaney, Michael County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Clonenagh and Clonagheen Location : Mountrath (Town of) Delaney, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghmacart Location : Ballyboodin Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 Dormer, Bridget County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Turra Dormer, Catherine County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Clonbrock Dormer, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Clonbrock Regards and good luck with your research Michael Brennan Kent England Home: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk Also researching the KELLY's of Co.Laois Ireland. My BRENNAN/MORAN Family: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Delaney" <rocky@fastlink.com.au> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 10:29 AM Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Delaneys in Ireland > Seeking any information on 7 Delaney sons of Denis Delaney & Judith Dormer > baptised at Doonane parish > County Laois/Queens 1817----1830 > Roger Delaney > In Sunny Caves Beach NSW > fax 0249713750 > rocky@fastlink.com.au > > ______________________________

Just a question as to whether others are having trouble receiving email I belong to some 8 differnet list & normally receive around 70-100 emails a day but in last 2 days about 30 in total Is anyone else having similar problems Roger Delaney In Sunny Caves Beach NSW fax 0249713750 rocky@fastlink.com.au

Seeking any information on 7 Delaney sons of Denis Delaney & Judith Dormer baptised at Doonane parish County Laois/Queens 1817----1830 Roger Delaney In Sunny Caves Beach NSW fax 0249713750 rocky@fastlink.com.au

Roger, I believe this decrease is due to the terrorist attack on 9-11. I don't think many of us could focus on genealogy for awhile. I, too, have had very little mail since then. Hope this helps... Christina -----Original Message----- From: Roger Delaney [mailto:rocky@fastlink.com.au] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 5:46 AM To: IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Just a question as to whether others are having trouble receiving email I belong to some 8 differnet list & normally receive around 70-100 emails a day but in last 2 days about 30 in total Is anyone else having similar problems Roger Delaney In Sunny Caves Beach NSW fax 0249713750 rocky@fastlink.com.au ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== To contact the listowner: Ninah@carolina.rr.com

It would be nice to see all other counties in Ireland following Waterford's example in trying to help amateur genealogists who don't have access to records and have to rely on friends to do the work for them. My BRENNAN/MORAN Family: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com Also researching the KELLY's of Co.Laois Ireland. Regards and good luck with your research Michael Brennan Kent England Home: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Whelan" <mwhelan@deisedesign.com> To: <IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 9:19 PM Subject: [IRELAND] FREE Griffiths Valuation Online Hi To All List Members I have some news that may be of interest to people interested in genealogical/historical research. Our company Deise Design www.deisedesign.com recently constructed the Waterford County Council web site. www.waterfordcoco.ie . Part of this web site allows access to something called a dynix database. This database contains Griffiths Valuation for Waterford, Gravestone Memorials, Death Register for Waterford 1864-1901 and a host of other items of genealogical interest. You can find the page at http://www.waterfordcoco.ie/index.cgi?art_id=33 It also contains details of how to contact the County Archivist. http://www.waterfordcoco.ie/index.cgi?art_id=10 If any of you wish to contact the archivist please put some thought into your query as she has a very large workload. The site contains details of the contents of the archive. It is hoped to expand this database in the coming months. In the future the site will display Griffiths Maps online (we know how we are going to do that) and Waterford Newspapers from times past (not sure how we are going to do this yet :) ). Please e-mail all comments and criticisms of the site via the site feedback form. Your message will reach the councils internet co-ordinator, she is responsible for the future development of the site. The more feedback the Council get on the new web site the more the new service will be expanded and improved by them. Also if anyone wishes to e-mail me (william@deisedesign.com) with any criticism of the site, feel free to tell me what you think. Yours Martin Whelan Dungarvan Museum Society Online ======================================================================== Martin Whelan | Déise Design | www.deisedesign.com | Tel : 086-8888975 " Our core product Déiseditor © allows organisations to publish information to their web site in a fast and cost effective manner. There is no need for a full time web developer, as the site can be easily updated by the organisations own staff. Instant updates to keep site information fresh. Sites which are updated regularly bring users back. Visit www.deisedesign.com/deiseditor.html for a demonstration " Déiseditor © " Managing Your Information " ======================================================================== ______________________________

Hi Looking for anyone searching for Farrells and Scully and Wall. Regards Ros

Three fiddlers play as if A frenzy had overcome them, A banjo player plucks in the Background in counterpoint, The flute player slips his semiquavers As hounds chasing a hare, In and out of the hedged phrases, The bodhrán player pounds a rhythm As a set of railroad tracks For the melody to travel on, While we just stare. If this is reality, then What kind of trance are we in For the rest of our lives. and a session in Eddy Dowlings pub, Errill, Co. Laois on New Years Eve gone................the old and the young, the Irish and the French played together till the wee hours. Click here - http://www.from-ireland.net/images/newyear/Session.htm

According to the Washington Post the list of foreign casualties stands at: • Britain: Almost 100 confirmed dead, British officials said, predicting that the number will rise to the "middle hundreds." • Japan: 100 missing, including tourists and at least 22 workers. • Canada: 2 dead on planes, 60 to 100 missing. • Australia: 9 dead, 85 missing. • Bangladesh: Estimated 50 dead. • South Korea: About 27 missing. • Mexico: At least 12 missing. • China: 2 dead on plane that struck Pentagon, 2 others dead. • Lebanon: 3 missing. • Ireland: 2 dead on a plane. • South Africa: 1 dead. • Ghana: 1 dead. • Sweden: 1 missing. We would like to extend our sympathy to those who have lost someone this week due to this act of terror. Christina Ninah@carolina.rr.com

There were Sides ? spelling in the town of Stradbally as I was growing up - I'm not sure if there are any in the area now. Paddy Sides had a shop which is now the post office. PJ Shortall

Thanks for your response. Over the last few months lots of people have been asking me where they can BUY a copy of the Ordnance Survey of Ireland 'The Discovery Series' maps in their particular country. I thought I could help them by putting Links on my web site of the local suppliers where they could go and purchase copies of these maps in their own local currencies. This would also cut down on shipping costs. I hope this has cleared up some of the confusion and made things a bit more clearer for everyone. My BRENNAN/MORAN Family: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com Also researching the KELLY's of Co.Laois Ireland. Regards and good luck with your research Michael Brennan Kent England Home: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Shelly" <mcshelly2@msn.com> To: "Michael Brennan" <michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk>; <LAW_R_KELLY-D@rootsweb.com>; <MORAN-D@rootsweb.com>; <BRENNAN-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 12:34 AM Subject: Re: Ordnance Survey of Ireland 'The Discovery Series' maps in Canada, USA & Australia > I hope you're meaning those who want to SELL and not those who want to buy! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Brennan" <michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk> > To: <LAW_R_KELLY-D@rootsweb.com>; <MORAN-D@rootsweb.com>; > <BRENNAN-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 6:22 AM > Subject: Ordnance Survey of Ireland 'The Discovery Series' maps in Canada, > USA & Australia > > > > Hi > > > > Can some kind person please send me the Web Site links for people who want > > to buy Ordnance Survey of Ireland 'The Discovery Series' maps in Canada, > USA > > & Australia. > > I would like to add these links to my web site below. > > > > > > The BRENNAN/MORAN Family: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com > > > > Also researching the KELLY's of Co.Laois Ireland. > > > > Regards and good luck with your research > > > > Michael Brennan > > Kent > > England > > Home: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk > > > > ______________________________ > >