Ballinakill, County Laois, Ireland John Dooley Mary Feen Date and place of marriage unknown Children Date of birth Emigrated Michael 5-1821 Unknown Catherine 1-1823 Unknown John 9-1824 Unknown Michael * 2-1828 1849 James 8-1829 Unknown Mary 11-1831 Unknown Catherine 12-1833 Unknown Peru, LaSalle County, Illinois * Michael Dooley Mary Tarpy Date and place of marriage unknown Child Date of birth Relocation John Michael * 2-4-1862 To Canton, Fulton County, Illinois 1883 Canton, Fulton County, Illinois * John Michael Dooley Catherine Daily Date of marriage 6-25-1884 Children Date of birth Relocation Joseph Michael * 10-22-1885 To Davenport, Scott County, Iowa 1919 Leo Francis 6-26-1889 To Colorado Springs, Colorado 1920 Nellie 10-10-1894 Died of typhoid 12-3-1909 Clarence B 12-15-1902 To St. Louis, Missouri Also researching TARPY, DAILY, CARLIN, BRONSON, HARRISON ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <Ninah@carolina.rr.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] ROLL CALL > Hi there... > Time for a ROLL CALL. The purpose of the Roll Call is to put your names on > the list so everyone can look for matches or maybe just get some advice. > > *PLEASE put your SURNAMES IN THE SUBJECT LINE. People who get the digest are > not always motivated to open lots of emails that just say Roll Call. > > Put as much or as little as you wish in the message. > > Cheers! > Christina > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > To contact the listowner: > Ninah@carolina.rr.com >

William John SCYTHES c.1807 (sometimes referred to as John Sythes) and his wife Jane MEREDITH c.1810 (father Thomas MEREDITH) emigrated in 1847 from "The Oaks", Ballyfin, near Mountmellick, Parish of Clonenagh and Cloneagheen, Queen's County /Laois/Leix to Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada with their seven children. Other related families who emigrated to Canada were Jane's sisters Hester MEREDITH and her husband John BANTING, Sarah MEREDITH and Benjamin BANTING, Susanna MEREDITH and James CLARKE, Maria MEREDITH and William CARTER, and other branches of a widely-spread family tree … FIFE, GOODWIN, HIPWELL, PARKER. The children of William SCYTHES and Jane MEREDITH were: 1. John SCYTHES, schoolteacher died unmarried 2. Thomas SCYTHES married Eliza Ann MCLEAN 3. Susannah SCYTHES married Thomas CLARK 4. Sarah SCYTHES married Robert FIFE 5. George SCYTHES 1841-1921 married Sarah Ann BOAKE 1843-1925 (Linda's g grandparents) 6. Esther (Hettie) SCYTHES married 1.Lewis ALLEN 2.George BLACKSTOCK 7. William died on board ship in 1847

My Laois ancestor was Thomas DELANEY from Queens County. He emigrated to MD in the early 1700's. He was related to Dr. Patrick Delany who was a fellow of Trinity College, Dublin. Chancellor of Christ Church etc. Patrick was a friend and biographer of Jonathan Swift. Seems like more might be know of Patrick and thereby the ancestors of Thomas. Patrick's wife was Mary Granville (1700-1788) - niece of the first Lord Landsdowne. Any info on this ancient family would be most welcome. Thanks, Christina Christina's World http://home.carolina.rr.com/ninah/

Hi there... Time for a ROLL CALL. The purpose of the Roll Call is to put your names on the list so everyone can look for matches or maybe just get some advice. *PLEASE put your SURNAMES IN THE SUBJECT LINE. People who get the digest are not always motivated to open lots of emails that just say Roll Call. Put as much or as little as you wish in the message. Cheers! Christina

Hi everyone, I am researching a Martin Phelan who lived in Queens Co and married Ellen Finlay on or before 1857. Martin was a Contractor. One of their children, Mary - born in 1857, emigrated to New Zealand in 1875. Regards Gordon Collingwood

Hi Michael, If you go to your local LDS Family History Centre, you can order the film for yourself and get printouts of any pages you need. Regards Pamela At 10:09 24.10.01 +0100, Michael Brennan wrote: >Would anyone have a copy of the Griffiths Valuation page for Ballickmoyler, >Arles & Ballynagall, Co Laois (Queens County) in their possession that they >would be willing to copy for me. > >This is the page that shows the Map reference numbers, House numbers name of >occupant and valuation of the property. An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ.

Gordon, I found the following in the Vital Records Index (put out by the LDS church) which may or may not help: PHELAN, Peter Birth Sex: Male Birth Date: 7 Jul 1867 Birthplace: Coolrain, Queens, Ire Recorded in: Civil Registration for Ireland Father: Martin PHELAN Mother: Ellen FINNELLY Source: FHL Number 101152 Dates: 1867-1867 Note: 551 PHELIN, Kate Birth Sex: Female Birth Date: 31 Dec 1868 Birthplace: Coolrain, Queens, Ire Recorded in: Civil Registration for Ireland Father: Martin PHELIN Mother: Ellen FENNELY Source: FHL Number 101182 Dates: 1869-1869 Note: 605 PHELIN, Anne Birth Sex: Female Birth Date: 31 Dec 1868 Birthplace: Coolrain, Queens, Ire Recorded in: Civil Registration for Ireland Father: Martin PHELIN Mother: Ellen FENNELY Source: FHL Number 101182 Dates: 1869-1869 Note: 605 PHELAN, Thomas Birth Sex: Male Birth Date: 5 Feb 1870 Birthplace: Coolrain, Queens, Ire Recorded in: Civil Registration for Ireland Father: Martin PHELAN Mother: Ellen FINLEY Source: FHL Number 101202 Dates: 1870-1870 Note: 627 Regards, Christina -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Collingwood [mailto:gdc@paradise.net.nz] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:47 AM To: IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Phelan Family Hi everyone, I am researching a Martin Phelan who lived in Queens Co and married Ellen Finlay on or before 1857. Martin was a Contractor. One of their children, Mary - born in 1857, emigrated to New Zealand in 1875. Regards Gordon Collingwood ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=IRL-LAOIS

Hey, all -- due to good Samaritans, that is the kind Dempsey Family of Abbeyview Cottage, (http://www.barrowvale.com/abbeyview/index.asp) and Father Noonan, the parish priest of Portarlington Parish Church is St. Michael's Roman Catholic, I have birth records, for Dempseys from about 1822 to 1890 or so. They are in Excell format. I will send them to anyone who asks, and would welcome fellow researchers to post the records to your websites for all to see, free of charge. The transcriptions were completed by voice recording from the original records, then transcribed to disc. The records include mother's maiden name, and godparents. Surnames of godparents and mothers, are numerous, including Connor, Flynn, Horan, Moran, Brennan, Brenan, Flannagan, Scully, Moughan, Cooke, Moore, Conway, Crosby, Clony, Dieghan, Cleary, Cobbe, Keogh, Mulhall, McDonald, Walsh, Fitzgerald, Hyland, Regan, Cassidy, Corkeran, Bourke, Beaghan, Keeghan, Whelan, Donahoe, Lalor, Costello, Lake, Tracy, Murphy, Collier, Maher, Kelly, Byrne, Cummins, and many more. There are 249 births total. Please write carmela@wolfenet.com --

Subject: Griffiths Valuation Would anyone have a copy of the Griffiths Valuation page for Ballickmoyler, Arles & Ballynagall, Co Laois (Queens County) in their possession that they would be willing to copy for me. This is the page that shows the Map reference numbers, House numbers name of occupant and valuation of the property. Regards and good luck with your research Michael Brennan Kent, England e-mail: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk URL: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com

> Two quick points. > > From a North American viewpoint, Ancestry.Com has some of the registers > transcribed, how complete, I do not know. They are charging $us39 per CDRom. The > "whole" of England costs about $us800 - about 30 CDs again $39 each. So there is > a precedence in price of data. Broderbund sells disks likewise. Except for rare > cases they are each portions of something larger - Volume 1 being whatever > seemed to fit on the disk! > Marketing data is tricky. You don't want to spend a small fortune and find > absolutely nothing that fits your needs. On the other hand a professional gene > probably would be delighted to have info at fingertips. I can see local FHC > purchasing commercial CDs of local relevance and charging for data extracted by > photocopy or disk (that is the current practice here.) The UK 1901 census is > going on line January 1 2002 and charging 80p per hit; expensive but making > fairly reliable data easily available. > > That brings me to my 2nd point. I would be delighted to transcribe a parish > register relevant to my searches in a common db format ( say tab delineated). I > am probably going to have to wait another couple of years before I can get over > the pond or to Salt Lake City to really go through the Ballyadams/Laois data. Is > it possible that locals could make good photo copies for us foreigners to > transcribe? The agony of splitting Kellys apart from Kealys is quite an effort! If it means anything, Michael, a Catherine Brennan from Barrowhouse married William Kealy (O'Chaollaidhe) from Slatt (my wife's grandparents ) about 1900 at Ballyadams Ch and for a while operated The Swan. If you see any likely relations while searching for your own ancestry I would be happy to know. > -- > George Tuck > Address and phone number on request to: > gtuck@canada.com > _____________________________ > > Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Interest in genealogy - a can of worms............ > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 00:57:49 +0100 > From: "Jane Lyons" <jlyons1@iol.ie> > To: IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com > > > two questions then - maybe it can get broken down from here. > > Records - would you buy them if they were available for your > area > (judgemental-what is the likelihood of use- would hope for say 12+ returns) > ...........would you encourage your local family history society to buy > them? yes as described above > What kind of records do you want? Pure genealogy? Yes - data and sources > The history of the area? To a degree - area town layouts from different periods; how boundaries ahave changed; townlands > Irish stories and history...... For me, less so - more out of interest than digging up verifiable facts. > Would you buy something even though it did not help you specifically - > simply to encourage those with Irish records to publish? No but I might be willing to transcribe. > I'm only trying to think here - what do the researchers want? What is it you > would encourage people to publish? Our "information age" is trying to digitize everything possible to create order for research, decision making and personal pleasure (What horse ran 3rd in the 1940 Grand National???) > It all boils down to economics. ...and the challenge is marketing!!! Cost = workvalue - losses due to inefficiency - profit. > That's life............whether we like it or not > > Jane Hope these ravings help./cheers/gt -- George Tuck Address and phone number on request to: gtuck@canada.com

and I guess that is what I will open as soon as this mail hits the lists.............and I intend to send it to more than the Ireland_ Genealogy Group that I have set up. I'm not too sure how I will handle the replies though. That I have to think about. Before I begin, I apologise to those who will see this on many lists, I feel there is a need to try and get as much response as possible - *and* I think this will be a long email. Many who know my name have heard me 'whinge' over the years because if I want to publish my graveyard transcriptions then I have to pay for the publication.........and I have to find the people who would want to buy any such publication. Many realise how important gravestones are. Many hear of this or that publication re the area they are interested in and want so badly to get a copy............ Few know of the many publications on gravestone transcriptions that have been done in Ireland. For most cases they have been published in Archaeological and Historical Journals, or even as stand alone Memorial Transcriptions for a county - limited publications, a few donated to various libraries around the world. I am writing this mail because an Ireland_Genealogy subscriber wrote to me telling me of someone who has transcribed a number of parish records for one Irish county - many years work - and who cannot get this published - *because* there is no proof that there are any people who would buy such a publication. I'll tell you a little about transcription works.......for those of you who aren't familiar with records. I once set out to transcribe the parish records for the county I have so many gravestone transcriptions for, I wanted to match everything up (simple amn't I? <g>), I set myself one year at this project. A friend asked me how long it would take - exactly - to complete the whole county and I said I hadn't a clue. How on earth can you estimate something like that? My friend said "You've a brain, you're an analyst - go figure" So, I went in to the National Library the next day and got my film..........I timed myself writing out the first page of each section of the register........the information on each page was different, it took me between 20 and 30 mins to write down what was there. I would have had 8+ separate entries on each page. Then, I counted how many pages were in each register on the film. All in all (and I'm working off the top of my head here) I calculated that it would take me 365 days of 5 hours in the archives to transcribe the material - after that I had to go home and put it all into my computer - and after that, I would have had to print it out and check it all. For all that work, I would have covered somewhere between 8 and 10 parish registers for my one county..........and they were only RC registers - I'd still have had to head to all the other films and all the other religions. Now, I continuously see people talking on the mail lists about Family History Centres here in Ireland, those who have records on film or who are transcribing records - and very few have a nice thing to say about them. I continuously see people refer to the fact that in Ireland, it is young people who had no jobs to whom the transcribing of records was handed over. I know myself, that I have sat looking at the records for a parish and a professional genealogist was standing behind me at the time and that person said something about one of the surnames in the records - and while the surname sounded like the one I was thinking of, it was a different surname...............I believed it to be one name and the other person another - each of us would have written down a different surname if we had been asked what it was. I believe I have some experience with records and script. I know the other genealogist to be a very experienced and knowledgeable person where Irish genealogy is concerned. Who-ever would have been correct is irrelevant for the moment - what is relevant is that you have to be familiar with names in an area. It matters that it was young inexperienced people who did the transcribing of Irish records for those of you who want the information - but it should also be recognised that at least some effort was made to transcribe these records - for most who do manage to employ a Family History Centre here or a professional geanalogist and who do have a surname that can be confused with another - then you know that you need to double check. I would put it to you that Ireland and Irish records are no different than in any other country in the world - that for every country there are probably the same problems - but because you look here and Ireland can be so very far away, it becomes an even bigger problem. Now, many records have been published in the past, in our old journals. Many people today weep and gnash their teeth because there are no records for this or that area - we have had many genealogists or family historians who transcribed our records before the fire in 1922............only few know of these publications. We have many parish records that are not part of the general 'parish record' listing for any county, becasue they simply survive as manuscripts held by the National Library and not as part of the general something donated or filmed and belonging to any religion. Many complain of the lack of interest that the Irish have in their family history. That they hold onto information passed down through generations. I personally have over 60 first cousins on one side - I only know those who were born in the same era as myself - if I even know that many - why would I want to find more relatives? It's the same for all the Irish in Ireland....... But it's not for you. I'm trying to explain us and our attitudes..........while I also want to get something else across. Here in Ireland, genealogy is not recognised as being all that important...........we have other things to do. Most complain about the few Irish in Ireland they will find on mail lists - that those few who do lurk are not willing to help. Few realise how many there are who want information compared to the numbers who have some interest and would help - statistically. My inbox currently has 1000 emails - yet, I have all the county lists I am subscribed to with folders of their own and mail filtered to them. The earliest date on my mail is July 2001. Maybe that says something. (I have computer problems :-)!! When I was big into my graveyards - and the amount of work, time, energy, and even visible monetory costs that go into the transcribing of one small graveyard is a lot - I contacted various publishers and I was told that there was no interest in graveyard transcriptions. To me, those transcriptions are so important, because I know the kinds of questions you all ask. I know that parish records are so important.............they are what you really, really seek - the basic starting point. You, are the people who seek, some of us Irish in Ireland or Irish abroad are the people who have and who can't publish - *because* we have no inkling, no proof of how much interest is out there. How many people are there who if they knew the parish records for their area were published would buy them...... How many people would buy graveyard transcriptions.......... It's my opinion that there are many, that the rootsweb mail lists and any others only represent a very small proportion of the 'searchers'. I see and hear so many people in the various Irish archives who haven't got a clue on how to do their research.......I think it's something like they're on their way to Ireland and suddenly realise what it means to them and then begin to work on their family history.............. The internet is a very big place - it makes the world so small............but in reality, it's really very small itself - compared to the numbers who want to find their Irish Ancestry. This has been long...........and it may have been in my usual rambling fashion. It just so happens that I am in a position where I may in the future be able to show a publisher whether or not there would be an interest in publications from Ireland with parish record data, with gravestone transcriptions........ I'd like to be able to say all you have to do is tick this or that box and I can work it all out statistically as towhat you want to see published - what you would support - and I mean that word 'support' - there's no point in you saying I'd like to see this or that........and then for you to go asking on the web if anyone has a copy that they'd look up for you. There's no point in you all giving out about Ireland and the Irish here, not if you look to your own country, to those who regardless of reasons make a profit from genealogy. My mothers cousin was over from Washington a few years ago and she brought some genealogy magazines for me - and the main message that was coming across was how much of a business it all is. I've seen many stones thrown our way............and there are so few of us on the web - there's no way we will stand up for ourselves. For once and for all - and for the moment I'll leave it at county basis. two questions then - maybe it can get broken down from here. Records - would you buy them if they were available for your area...........would you encourage your local family history society to buy them? What kind of records do you want? Pure genealogy? The history of the area? Irish stories and history...... Would you buy something even though it did not help you specifically - simply to encourage those with Irish records to publish? I'm only trying to think here - what do the researchers want? What is it you would encourage people to publish? It all boils down to economics. That's life............whether we like it or not Jane I would appreciate it if you would forward this mail to anyone who you think may be interested in commenting on my last few questions. I have my family history - and my family..........I would like to show others that there is an interest in Irish family history.

In 1997 (or there abouts) the Laois Association in Dublin published THE LAOIS ASSOCIATION YEARBOOK '96-'97. This was an excellent account of our heritage in the County of Laois and I have had a lot of enjoyment reading the articles. My question is, have any more Yearbooks been published, and if so, where can we find them if we live outside Ireland? Can we buy them through Mail Order? Regards and good luck with your research Michael Brennan Kent, England E-mail: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk URL: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com

Hello THERE I am reposting my Quelch search. I have these Quelches below. I have found descendants in Montreal, Canada and New York, USA but have had no luck with those who stayed in Ireland. But, I cannot find them in Ireland, in fact someone I know when to Laois to specifically look for them but found nothing. I am only mentioning this in the off chance you know something. I have come to know in this hobby that one never knows. #2 son JOHN QUELCH and wife MARY LYNCH must have come to Canada in order that their children were born there. #2 son HENRY QUELCH and MARY PURCELL did not come to Canada while some of their children did #3 generation. I am interested in mainly knowing where HENRY QUELCH b. 1795 WAS BORN WHO HIS PARENTS WERE AND WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS CHILDREN WHO STAYED IN IRELAND. Thank you so much for reading this. Judy in Canada Descendants of Quelch 1 Quelch ........... 2 John Quelch 1786 - 1856 b: 1786 in Ireland d: 1856 in Montreal, Ile De Montreal, Quebec, Canada ............... +Mary Lynch 1798 - 1853 b: 1798 in Ireland m: 1815 in Canada, Ireland d: 1853 in Montreal, Ile De Montreal, Quebec, Canada ......................... 3 Henry Quelch 1817 - 1837 b: 1817 in Canada, Ireland d: 1837 ......................... 3 Helen Quelch 1819 - 1822 b: June 13, 1819 in Montreal, Ile De Montreal, (unknown parish), Quebec, Canada d: 1822 in Montreal, Ile De Montreal, Quebec, Canada ......................... 3 Joseph Quelch 1821 - 1822 b: September 01, 1821 in Montreal, Ile De Montreal, (unknown parish), Quebec, Canada d: 1822 in Montreal, Ile De Montreal, Quebec, Canada ......................... 3 Marguerite Quelch 1823 - 1825 b: April 10, 1823 in Montreal, Ile De Montreal, (unknown parish), Quebec, Canada d: 1825 in Montreal, Ile De Montreal, Quebec, Canada ......................... 3 William John Quelch 1826 - 1899 b: March 05, 1826 in Ile De Montreal, (unknown parish), Quebec, Canada d: 1899 ............................. +Maria Dowd 1826 - b: Abt. 1826 in Ireland m: September 28, 1857 in Ile De Montreal, Quebec, Canada d: in Canada ........... 2 Henry Quelch 1795 - b: 1795 in Johnstown Glebe, Killkenny, Ireland d: in Ireland ............... +Mary Purcell 1798 - b: Abt. 1798 in Johnstown Glebe, Killkenny, Ireland m: Abt. 1814 in Ireland d: in Ireland ......................... 3 Joseph Quelch 1816 - 1881 b: Abt. 1816 in Shragh, Johnstown Glebe, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland d: 1881 in Canada ............................. +Jane (Fury) Fleury m: June 11, 1844 in Notre Dame, Montreal, Ille De Montreal, (unknown parish), Quebec, Canada d: in Canada ......................... 3 John Quelch 1817 - b: January 24, 1817 in Shragh, Johnstown Glebe, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland ......................... 3 Honora Quelch 1818 - b: December 25, 1818 in Shragh, Johnstown Glebe, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland ......................... 3 William Quelch 1821 - b: February 18, 1821 in Shragh, Johnstown Glebe, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Ireland ......................... 3 Patrick Quelch 1823 - b: March 23, 1823 in Shragh, Johnstown Glebe, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland ......................... 3 Henry Edward Quelch 1825 - 1863 b: August 24, 1825 in Shragh, Johnstown Glebe, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland d: July 23, 1863 in New York, New York, USA ............................. +Bridget Maher 1827 - b: Abt. 1827 m: June 05, 1854 in Montreal, Ille De Montreal, Quebec, (unknown parish), Canada d: in Brooklyn, New York, USA ......................... 3 Ellen Quelch 1827 - b: May 13, 1827 in Shragh, Johnstown Glebe, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland ......................... 3 Mary Quelch 1829 - b: June 29, 1829 in Shragh, Johnstown Glebe, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland ......................... 3 Edward W. Quelch 1832 - b: July 11, 1832 in Shragh, Johnstown Glebe, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland ......................... 3 Margret Quelch 1834 - b: January 21, 1834 in Shragh, Johnstown Glebe, Leix (Laois/Queens) County, Leinster Province, Ireland

Seeking any descendants or information on Denis, Matthew,John, William Martin Denis 2nd Michael & Luke DELANEY Judith, Catherine & Mary DORMER & also Fanny BRENNAN wife of Martin Delaney all from Clonbrock TownlandR.C. Parish of DOONANE---County Laois/Queens Ireland Circa 1814----1875 Martin & Fanny Brennans children Alicia 1863-Mary 1865 James 1867-John 1870-Eliza 1873-Michael 1875 Roger Delaney In Sunny Caves Beach NSW fax 0249713750 rocky4@hotkey.net.au

Greetings everyone. The list administrator has kindly allowed me to make this announcement. The Ireland Genealogy Projects has several county webpages that need dedicated County Coordinators. Visit the main IGP homepage at http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com/ The available county pages are: County Dublin, http://www.rootsweb.com/~irldubli/ This is my baby, but I have too many other websites. County Fermanagh http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirfer2/ This is a beautifully and fully developed webpage. County Meath http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlmea2/ This is a starter page, but we have material to develop. County Tyrone http://www.rootsweb.com/~nirtyr3/ This is my baby, but I have too many other websites. County Wicklow http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog2/ This is a good start, but needs more TLC. Some of these county pages also have mailing lists and query boards. As a matter of policy we like to have experienced coordinators who live in Ireland. We like egg in our beer too<grin> But certainly next best, and most of us fit this category, we live in the United States, New Zealand, Australia, Canada and other countries around the globe, but our common denominator is, we have ancestors who came from Ireland. In looking for those ancestors we belong to many mailing lists, and in time we learn where to look in Ireland for records. Most important, we love what we do, and we often volunteer to do more than we can easily handle. We could use 100 volunteers in Ireland alone. SO, anyone on this list with ancestors from one or more of these counties, know how to use ftp or front page, and love to build beautiful websites, collecting, compiling and building unique databases. Eventually, next year, we want to build a search engine that will search all of the databases as if they were one database. If you are interested in managing one of the webpages, and want to work with the finest team in Ireland, and help build the best genealogy project in Ireland, please contact me and I'll get you started with a buddy tutor or welcome hostess. Thanks for reading this announcement. Donald O'Collaugh Kelly, National Coordinator, Ireland genealogy Projects.

To all you music lovers out there I just found a great site: http://www.letssingit.com/ Regards and good luck with your research Michael Brennan Kent England Home: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk Also researching the KELLY's of Co.Laois Ireland. Check out "Starting out" page on my web site. (There is new info on what records are available in Ireland on my web site) My BRENNAN/MORAN/KELLY Family: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com

Hi everyone Is there anybody out there who can discuss first hand what the Domestic situation was like in Ireland (as opposed to the Political situation) during the period of the Second World War. (On or Off List) Regards and good luck with your research Michael Brennan Kent England Home: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk Also researching the KELLY's of Co.Laois Ireland. Check out "Starting out" page on my web site. (There is new info on what records are available in Ireland on my web site) My BRENNAN/MORAN Family: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com

Hi everyone Just lately I have had a lot of questions asking me what is the Griffiths Valuation. I hope I am able to answer all those questions by printing the following explanation below which is courtesy of the Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 CD-ROM. I hope this will be of some help to you all. Please note: (The information on this CD-ROM is Copyright 1997 Broderbund Software Inc. All rights reserved). If you need any further information please do not hesitate to contact me and don't forget to check out my web site (address below) where you will find more info on researching our Irish ancestors. The results of a Look-Up will give the following information: Abben, William County : Carlow Parish : Carlow Location : T/Carlow Tullow St. (Please remember this is not a Census as we know it). The Griffith's Valuation, or Primary Valuation of Ireland, was executed under the direction of Sir Richard Griffith to determine the amount of tax each person should pay towards the support of the poor within their poor law union. This involved determining the value of all privately held lands and buildings in rural as well as urban areas to figure the rate at which each unit of property could be rented year after year. The resulting survey was arranged by barony and civil parish with an index to the townlands appearing in each volume. The original volumes of the survey are held in the National Archives, Dublin and Public Record Office, Belfast. Griffith's Valuation is an invaluable reference for family historians with ancestors in Ireland. It is a record of extreme importance since no census material of the nineteenth century has survived. In effect, Griffith's Valuation can be used as a census substitute for the years before, during, and after the Great Famine. While it represents an impressive undertaking in terms of property survey, Griffith's Valuation is also an important record of valuable social and economic data. For those seeking information on their Irish ancestors, it provides more than just names and locations of residences. Griffith's Valuation is, effectively, the only detailed guide to where in Ireland people lived in the mid-nineteenth century and what property they possessed. In addition to providing the name of the householder, Griffith's Valuation provides a map reference number to help you identify and perhaps locate property. Few other records can be used to identify an immigrant ancestor's exact place of origin, and only Griffith's Valuation links an individual to a specific townland and civil parish. This information is of extreme importance since the first step in Irish genealogical research is to identify an ancestor's townland and civil parish. This information can lead you to ecclesiastical parish records of births and marriages. Regards and good luck with your research Michael Brennan Kent England Home: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk Also researching the KELLY's of Co.Laois Ireland. Check out "Starting out" page on my web site. (There is new info on what records are available in Ireland on my web site) My BRENNAN/MORAN Family: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com

Many thanks to all who replied with info. on Kille(a)ban, Urglin and Dunleckn(e)y. Everything helps ... even if only for better understanding of parishes, townlands, baronies etc etc! Regards Jane Researching DONNELLY (shoemaker in Carlow Town c. 1826-1849) and COSTIGAN (Ballinakill Co. Laois) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 18/09/01

-----Original Message----- From: Roger Delaney [mailto:rocky4@hotkey.net.au] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 8:49 AM To: DELANEY-L-request@rootsweb.com Subject: {not a subscriber} Delaney family--Clonbrock-County Laois Looking for information on Delaneys from county Laois-Queens 1814 denis & Judith DORMER Roger Delaney In Sunny Caves Beach NSW fax 0249713750 rocky@fastlink.com.au