Sharon at jheyob@erols.com writes: << she was born in Killimore, Upper Woods, County Queens. I cannot find any Killimore in Laois but I do find a townland called Killinure in Upper Woods. >> Sharon, I think I'm going to regret getting into this one, as I seem to encounter new inconsistencies at each turn. I started by going to the Townland listings and, sure enough, Killinure in Offerlane CP and Upper Woods barony seemed to be a likely alternative (remember, a typed entry could still have been from a hand-written document. An "n" can look like an "m", and a partially-closed "u" could be mistaken for an "o".). So, I went to the Discovery map 54, and there is Killinure townland - about 3 miles NW of Mountrath. So far so good. Then I went to the RC Parish maps (gleaned from the local.ie website). They are not very detailed and I've never felt comfortable using them. In this case, I really question the Laois RC map. I would assume (of course, this is Ireland) that Camross RC parish would include the town of Camross. Looking at the RC map, it doesn't seem so. Therefore, it appears that Killinure could be located in either Camross of Castletown RC parishes - perhaps also Ballyfin and Mountrath as outside chances. The Castletown parish on the map has a parenthetical "(See Mountrath)" underneath the parish name. I don't know what that means. Just when I thought that I was in the midst of total uncertainty, I decided to go to the Townland Index map of the area..........because I espied a Killanure on my Discovery map, another mile to the NW of the Killinure townland. I knew this Killanure was not in the Townland listings. And, sadly, it's not shown on the Townland Index map, either. Of course, neither is the adjacent "Bull Bog", which is also shown on the Discovery map. However, the TI map does show an "RC Chapel" on the now-named R 440 road, right next to the Killanure lettering on the Disc. map. And, sure enough, the Disc. map has the same church shown, but it is nearly obliterated by all of the other map features which seem to converge at this tiny spot. It is possible that this church may be known as Killanure Church (even though there is no Killanure townland). If so, I still don't know which RC parish it would be in. I'm afraid I haven't helped you much, only muddied the water. "It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma". Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Walsh's of Aghaboe parish 1826 and townland that they lived in Gorthaclea Walsh James Ballygihan Walsh John Ballygihan Walsh Patrick Borris Walsh Thomas Glebe Walsh Thomas Fitzpatricks..........remember that some of these people will have been leasing more than one plot of land Corrane (?) Fitzpatrick Daniel Legawn Fitzpatrick Daniel Cuffsborough Fitzpatrick Dennis Ballygihan Fitzpatrick Edward Ballygowden Fitzpatrick Florence Ballycuddihy Fitzpatrick John Gorthaclea Fitzpatrick John Shanboe Fitzpatrick John Kiletillogue Fitzpatrick John & Co. Carhooe Fitzpatrick Laurence Knockamullen Fitzpatrick Martin Borris FitzPatrick Matthew & Co. Ballygowden Fitzpatrick patrick Grangemore Fitzpatrick Patrick Oldglass Fitzpatrick Terance Shanboe Fitzpatrick Thomas Borris FitzPatrick Thomas & co. Ballygarven Fitzpatrick Timothy Kiletillogue Fitzpatrick Timothy Ballycuddihy Fitzpatrick William ----- Original Message ----- From: <LDoughe453@aol.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 7:15 PM Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Roll Call- WALSH, MORTIMER > James WALSH born 1834 in Aghaboe parish son of James Walsh and Judy > Fitzpatrick. Siblings Mary, Martin and Frances. James married Anne > MORTIMER, born 1846 in Camross parish, daughter of Michael Mortimer and > Catherine Phelan. Siblings Matthew, Margaret, John and Patrick. > > James and Anne (Mortimer) Walsh emigrated in the 1860's to the USA and lived > in the city of Troy, NY. James' sister Mary, Anne's brothers Patrick and > Matthew, and Anne's sister Margaret also lived in Troy. > > Would love to trade info with anyone else researching these Co. Laois > surnames. > > Lisa Dougherty > (LDoughe453@aol.com) > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > An Irishman has an abiding sense of tragedy which sustains him through temporary periods of joy. > > >

There was a John Farrell jun., Barnsallagh recorded in the Tithes for Aghaboe - 1826. No other Farrells for that townland There was a John Farrell in ?Corrane townland also in Aghaboe Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "tom farrell" <tdfarre@attglobal.net> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 8:52 PM Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] ROLL CALL - FARRELL/SHELLY > Searching for relatives of JEREMIAH FARRELL(1822-1901) of Barnasallagh > townland, Aghaboe RC parish,Queens County. HJe was the son of John > Farrell and Margaret SHELLY (1799-1869). His siblings were : Catherine > (1820-1897), Judy ( b. July,1826), Daniel (1834-1859), and John. > Jeremiah emigrated to Baltimore, Maryland in 1855 where he married > Winifred GARVEY. I am happy to share info. > > Regards, > > Tom Farrell > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > Remember...virus announcements and list ettiquette are the province of the listowner. If you have a concern contact: > Ninah@carolina.rr.com > > >

A Peaceful & Prosperous New Year to you and all your Family wherever they may be. Michael Brennan Kent in England My e-mail address is: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk Carlow IPG Project is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/ My Family URL is: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Brennan" <michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk> To: <alkern@home.com> Cc: <IRL-LAOIS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 8:55 PM Subject: Fleming/Flemming > Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 > > Fleming, Anne County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Killabban > Location : Kilcruise > Fleming, Anne County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Killabban > Location : Rahin > Fleming, Catherine County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Killabban > Location : Ballylehane Lr. > Fleming, Catherine County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Rathaspick > Location : Kellystown > Fleming, Eleanor County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Rathaspick > Location : Boley > Fleming, Eliza County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Killabban > Location : Rahin > Fleming, Finton County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Straboe > Location : Kilminchy > Fleming, Geoffrey County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Killabban > Location : Ashfield > Fleming, George County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Lea > Location : Cooltedery > Fleming, George County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Lea > Location : Cooltedery (Main Street) > Fleming, James County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Dysartgallen > Location : Moyadd > Fleming, James County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Killabban > Location : Ashfield > Fleming, James County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Killabban > Location : Farnans > Fleming, James County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Rathaspick > Location : Milltown > Fleming, John County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Killabban > Location : Rahin > Fleming, John County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Rathaspick > Location : Aghamafir > Fleming, John County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Rathaspick > Location : Slatt Upper > Fleming, John County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Tankardstown > Location : Ballinree > Fleming, John, Jr. County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Dysartgallen > Location : Moyadd > Fleming, John, Sr. County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Dysartgallen > Location : Moyadd > Fleming, Margaret County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Ballyroan > Location : Dooary > Fleming, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Borris > Location : Maryborough (Main Street) > Fleming, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Durrow > Location : Durrow Town Parks > Fleming, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Killabban > Location : Kilcruise > Fleming, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Killeshin > Location : Graigue (Church St.) > Fleming, Michael County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Dysartgallen > Location : Moyadd > Fleming, Michael County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Killabban > Location : Farnans > Fleming, Michael County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Rathaspick > Location : Milltown > Fleming, Murtagh County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Killabban > Location : Ashfield > Fleming, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Ardea > Location : Foundry Street > Fleming, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Ardea > Location : Tracy's Lane > Fleming, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Dysartgallen > Location : Moyadd > Fleming, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Rathaspick > Location : Slatt Lower > Fleming, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Aghmacart > Location : Craigueavoice > Fleming, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Aghmacart > Location : Toberboe/Killennymore > Fleming, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Clonenagh and Clonagheen > Location : Clonehurk > Fleming, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Clonenagh and Clonagheen > Location : Coole or Lisnagomman > Fleming, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Rathaspick > Location : Crissard > Fleming, Thomas, Jr. County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Rathaspick > Location : Slatt Lower > Fleming, Thomas, Sr. County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Rathaspick > Location : Slatt Lower > Fleming, Timothy County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Rathaspick > Location : Slatt Upper > Fleming, William County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Borris > Location : Maryborough (Main Street) > Fleming, William County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Killabban > Location : Maidenhead > Fleming, William County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Killabban > Location : Rahin > Fleming, William County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Killabban > Location : Skehanagh > > Variants Fleming/Flemming > > Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 > > Flemming, George County : Laois/Leix/Queens > Parish : Rosenallis > Location : Mountmellick (Church Lane) > > A Peaceful & Prosperous New Year to you and all your Family wherever they > may be. > > Michael Brennan > Kent in England > My e-mail address is: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk > > Carlow IPG Project is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/ > My Family URL is: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com > > >

Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 Fleming, Anne County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Kilcruise Fleming, Anne County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Rahin Fleming, Catherine County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Ballylehane Lr. Fleming, Catherine County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Rathaspick Location : Kellystown Fleming, Eleanor County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Rathaspick Location : Boley Fleming, Eliza County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Rahin Fleming, Finton County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Straboe Location : Kilminchy Fleming, Geoffrey County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Ashfield Fleming, George County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Lea Location : Cooltedery Fleming, George County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Lea Location : Cooltedery (Main Street) Fleming, James County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Dysartgallen Location : Moyadd Fleming, James County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Ashfield Fleming, James County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Farnans Fleming, James County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Rathaspick Location : Milltown Fleming, John County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Rahin Fleming, John County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Rathaspick Location : Aghamafir Fleming, John County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Rathaspick Location : Slatt Upper Fleming, John County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Tankardstown Location : Ballinree Fleming, John, Jr. County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Dysartgallen Location : Moyadd Fleming, John, Sr. County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Dysartgallen Location : Moyadd Fleming, Margaret County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Ballyroan Location : Dooary Fleming, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Borris Location : Maryborough (Main Street) Fleming, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Durrow Location : Durrow Town Parks Fleming, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Kilcruise Fleming, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killeshin Location : Graigue (Church St.) Fleming, Michael County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Dysartgallen Location : Moyadd Fleming, Michael County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Farnans Fleming, Michael County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Rathaspick Location : Milltown Fleming, Murtagh County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Ashfield Fleming, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Ardea Location : Foundry Street Fleming, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Ardea Location : Tracy's Lane Fleming, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Dysartgallen Location : Moyadd Fleming, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Rathaspick Location : Slatt Lower Fleming, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghmacart Location : Craigueavoice Fleming, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghmacart Location : Toberboe/Killennymore Fleming, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Clonenagh and Clonagheen Location : Clonehurk Fleming, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Clonenagh and Clonagheen Location : Coole or Lisnagomman Fleming, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Rathaspick Location : Crissard Fleming, Thomas, Jr. County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Rathaspick Location : Slatt Lower Fleming, Thomas, Sr. County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Rathaspick Location : Slatt Lower Fleming, Timothy County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Rathaspick Location : Slatt Upper Fleming, William County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Borris Location : Maryborough (Main Street) Fleming, William County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Maidenhead Fleming, William County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Rahin Fleming, William County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Killabban Location : Skehanagh Variants Fleming/Flemming Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 Flemming, George County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Rosenallis Location : Mountmellick (Church Lane) A Peaceful & Prosperous New Year to you and all your Family wherever they may be. Michael Brennan Kent in England My e-mail address is: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk Carlow IPG Project is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/ My Family URL is: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com

Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 Dowling, Bridget County : Wicklow Parish : Hollywood Location : Blakestown Upper Dowling, Bridget County : Wicklow Parish : Hollywood Location : Brittonstown Dowling, Catherine County : Wicklow Parish : Dunlavin Location : Knocknagull Dowling, Elizabeth County : Wicklow Parish : Ardoyne Location : Ardoyne Dowling, Elizabeth County : Wicklow Parish : Castlemacadam Location : Cronebane Dowling, Emily County : Wicklow Parish : Castlemacadam Location : Cronebane Dowling, Francis County : Wicklow Parish : Mullinacuff Location : Ballymultagh Dowling, James County : Wicklow Parish : Boystown Location : Shroghan Dowling, James County : Wicklow Parish : Hollywood Location : Johnstown Dowling, Joseph County : Wicklow Parish : Ballinglass Location : T/Baltinglass Belan Street Dowling, Joseph County : Wicklow Parish : Rathnew Location : Ballylusk Dowling, Judith County : Wicklow Parish : Newcastle Upper Location : T/Newtownmount Kennedy Dowling, Martin County : Wicklow Parish : Aghowle Location : Quigginroe Dowling, Martin County : Wicklow Parish : Dunlavin Location : Dunlavin Upper T/Dunlavin Dowling, Mary County : Wicklow Parish : Blessington Location : T/Blessington Kilbride-Road Dowling, Michael County : Wicklow Parish : Blessington Location : T/Blessington Kilbride-Road Dowling, Michael County : Wicklow Parish : Blessington Location : T/Blessington Main-Street Dowling, Patrick County : Wicklow Parish : Aghowle Location : Killinure Dowling, Patrick County : Wicklow Parish : Bray Location : Kilruddery Demesne East Dowling, Patrick County : Wicklow Parish : Rathbran Location : T/Straford High Street Dowling, Robert County : Wicklow Parish : Aghowle Location : Lumcloon Dowling, Ruth County : Wicklow Parish : Aghowle Location : Lumcloon Dowling, Sarah County : Wicklow Parish : Castlemacadam Location : Cronebane Dowling, Simon County : Wicklow Parish : Bray Location : T/Bray Main St. Dowling, Thomas County : Wicklow Parish : Aghowle Location : Aghowle Lower Dowling, Thomas County : Wicklow Parish : Aghowle Location : Barnacashel Dowling, Thomas County : Wicklow Parish : Kilmacanoge Location : Glencormick South Dowling, William County : Wicklow Parish : Ardoyne Location : Ardoyne Dowling, William County : Wicklow Parish : Ballinglass Location : T/Baltinglass Ballitore Rd. Dowling, William, Jr. County : Wicklow Parish : Ballinglass Location : T/Baltinglass Ballitore Rd. Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 Mc Caffrey, James County : Meath Parish : Navan Location : Abbeyland, Sth/Town/Navan/Brews Hill A Peaceful & Prosperous New Year to you and all your Family wherever they may be. Michael Brennan Kent in England My e-mail address is: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk Carlow IPG Project is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/ My Family URL is: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com

Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 Dowling, Ellen County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Farraneglish Dowling, John County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Kyletilloge Dowling, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Ballycuddahy Dowling, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Farraneglish Dowling, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Springfield or Knockyle Dowling, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Knockfin Dowling, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Oldglass Dowling, Rev. William County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Springfield or Knockyle Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 Whelan, Cornelius County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Grangemore Whelan, Daniel County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Knockfin Whelan, Edmund County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Ballygarban Glebe Whelan, Edmund County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Park Whelan, Edward County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Borris in Ossory Main St. Whelan, Finton County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Cuffsborough Whelan, James County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Ballyhinode Whelan, James County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Carrowreagh Whelan, James County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Knockaroe Whelan, John County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Ballycolla Whelan, John County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Gortnagroagh Whelan, John County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Oldglass Whelan, Kieran County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Borris in Ossory Main St. Whelan, Lawrence County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Kilmaseer Whelan, Margaret County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Borris in Ossory Main St. Whelan, Margaret County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Carrowreagh Whelan, Margaret County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Shanboe Whelan, Martin County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Ballygowdan Whelan, Martin County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Kilbeg Whelan, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Garryduff Whelan, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Grangemore Whelan, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Keelough Glebe Whelan, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Kilbeg Whelan, Mary County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Shanboe Whelan, Matthew County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Garryduff Whelan, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Ballygowdan Whelan, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Borris in Ossory Main St. Whelan, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Carrowreagh Whelan, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Garryduff Whelan, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Kilmaseer Whelan, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Oldglass Whelan, Patrick County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Park Whelan, Roger County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Borris in Ossory Main St. Whelan, Roger County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Townparks Whelan, Stephen County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Springfield or Knockyle Whelan, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Baunoge Whelan, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Coolbally Whelan, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Cruell Whelan, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Knockfin Whelan, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Springfield or Knockyle Whelan, Timothy County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Boherard Whelan, William County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Corraun A Peaceful & Prosperous New Year to you and all your Family wherever they may be. Michael Brennan Kent in England My e-mail address is: michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk Carlow IPG Project is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/ My Family URL is: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com

Hi Sharon - Perhaps you are looking for Killermogh (a/k/a Kildermoy). That would be my thinking anyway, given what would be the translation. It is in the dioese of Ossory, in Upper Woods, Clonenaugh. And (rats) I was just at the Catholic parish listing site there last night but can't find where I put the reference! I'll look for it and send it on to you. BTW, if you don't know about the placename "Borris," it just refers to Maryborough which is also called Borris. Best Regards, Maryjane Honner HONNER/HONOR of Trumera, Mountrath, Mountmellick, Cork and beyond...! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heyob" <jheyob@erols.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2002 10:54 AM Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Dooley,Killinure,Upper Woods,1840s > Hello Everyone, > > I'm new to the list and would like to ask some questions in addition to > posting my County Laois surnames. In Edward Fitzpatrick's (my great, > great-grandfather) U.S. Civil War pension files there is an affadavit > from his wife Catherine Dooley stating that she was born in Killimore, > Upper Woods, County Queens. I cannot find any Killimore in Laois but I > do find a townland called Killinure in Upper Woods. Am I right in > assuming that this is what she meant? The affadavit was typed, not > hand-written so may have been dictated to someone else. > > If Killinure is what she meant, how can I find out what Catholic parish > would have her baptism records? I believe Upper Woods is in the Civil > Parish of Offerlane. When I look up Offerlane in familysearch.org, the > only church records I find are those for Borris-in-Ossory. > > Catherine Dooley was born about 1830-1840 to Patrick Dooley and Bridget > Marnel (maybe Marnell). She came to New Britain, CT. 1850-1860 and > married Edward Fitzpatrick, son of John Fitzpatrick and Mary Brophy. He > also says he was from County Queens and was born about 1840. > > Thanks for your help. > > Sharon Heyob > jheyob@erols.com > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > An Irishman has an abiding sense of tragedy which sustains him through temporary periods of joy. > >

Hello Everyone, I'm new to the list and would like to ask some questions in addition to posting my County Laois surnames. In Edward Fitzpatrick's (my great, great-grandfather) U.S. Civil War pension files there is an affadavit from his wife Catherine Dooley stating that she was born in Killimore, Upper Woods, County Queens. I cannot find any Killimore in Laois but I do find a townland called Killinure in Upper Woods. Am I right in assuming that this is what she meant? The affadavit was typed, not hand-written so may have been dictated to someone else. If Killinure is what she meant, how can I find out what Catholic parish would have her baptism records? I believe Upper Woods is in the Civil Parish of Offerlane. When I look up Offerlane in familysearch.org, the only church records I find are those for Borris-in-Ossory. Catherine Dooley was born about 1830-1840 to Patrick Dooley and Bridget Marnel (maybe Marnell). She came to New Britain, CT. 1850-1860 and married Edward Fitzpatrick, son of John Fitzpatrick and Mary Brophy. He also says he was from County Queens and was born about 1840. Thanks for your help. Sharon Heyob jheyob@erols.com

No Nortons in Ballyadams baptisms for 1845 Bob............ but - one Dunne - Mary Anne, father William, mother Mary McDonnell, sponsors: William Molloy and MArgaret Dunne from Loughglass. Add her to your collection :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <hiflyte@connect.ab.ca> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 2:00 AM Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] ROLL CALL - NORTON <snip> NORTON, Patrick, DOB ca. 1842, Queens (?), Ireland > Immigrated (?) to Bathgate Scotland, approx 1855-60 > Married 27 Feb 1870 > DOD 30 May 1904, Bathgate, Scotland > > McAFEE/McFIE, Mary (Anne), DOB ca 1853, Whitburn, Scotland > DOD, 9 Jul 1881, Bathgate, Scotland > > Parents of Patrick > > NORTON, Michael, No other data > DUNN (e), Mary No other data

Not your James or Andrew - but - from Ballyadams. taken from Ballyadams RC parish records Anne Fleming, baptised March 16th 1845, dau of Timothy Fleming and Anne Green. Witnesses John Green and Jane Fleming - from Ballyadams. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alice Kern" <alkern@home.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 1:06 PM Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Roll Call - FLEMING > I have brothers, James (b. 1816) and Andrew (b. 1817) FLEMING born in > Ballyadams, Queens Co. according to tombstone of James (bless you > James!) Left for the United States 1845-1850. Mother may have been Mary ? > b. about 1800. I have lots of information on the brothers but would like > to know name of father and any other siblings left behind in Ireland. > > Alice > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=IRL-LAOIS > > >

how about authentic from Ireland Christine? There are some on Pat Connors web page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/misc.htm Jane :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <Ninah@carolina.rr.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 7:11 PM Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Irish recipes wanted! > Hello there... > I thought it would be fun to put together a page of recipes that we have > from our Irish Ancestors. > > If you have a recipe that has been passed down from an Irish ancestor please > share. You can post them here or send to me. >

The bedt place to look for any Dowlings in Wicklow would be in Brian Cantwells gravestone memorials of Co. Wicklow. Most likely parishes or areas clse to the Carlow border to begin with. McCaffrey in Meath or there abouts then try taking a look at the distribution of the surname in teh Griffiths or Tithes depending on the teim frame - Griffiths would have been c.1860 and Tithes twenty to thirty years before hand depending on county - Griffiths Valuations began in southern counties and worked their way up the country so the farther south you look the closer the two run together - evern a look up on the Griffiths cd will give you some idea - do NOT decide that it is the be all and end all. Meath Gravestone transcriptions - a lot of them were published in The Irish genealogist - I don't know the URL for the Irish Genealogical Society which is based in London and I don't knwo if they do look ups or have contents on line yet - do a google search - they at least may turn up Mccaffreys from meath that you'll not find in any other Irish records - Meath gravestones if I remember rightly do go a nice way back. Ship lists to Philadelphia - it was a major port at one time, so don't depend on what you find out from there absolutely either. I'm doing an awful lot of don't re absolutes in this post - sorry Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul E. Dowling" <pdowling7@home.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 4:33 AM Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Looking for passenger lists > I'm trying to trace ancestors back to Ireland. They likely entered the port > of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US, between 1861 and 1888. > > Names: > Richard Dowling, suspect County Wicklow > Catharine McCaffrey, suspect County Meath > >

They would have left from Dublin most likely if heading for England and then Cobh in Cork if heading elsewhere - ship lists for that time frame are few and far between. You're probably talkinout some who would have left as members of the army or those who may have left to go work on some land held by a landlord from their home locality in the new World - whichever part. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Earline B. Stewart" <estewart@ghg.net> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 5:47 PM Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Ships > Does anyone know where someone might have left Ireland by ship in > the 1760 timeframe, if they lived near Stradbally, Ireland? And if > there are any records. Thanks Earline

Have you ever tried contacting Brian Dowling who has a particular interest in Laois and lots of photos of Laois places on his web site. Most importantly - Brian is building a Dowling database. He already has extracted the 1864 and 1865 civil brith registrations I think it is for ireland and has them on his web site at: http://fp.dowling.f9.co.uk/ For Aghaboe I have some of the people who are listed in the Tithes a: http://www.from-ireland.net/aughaboetithes.htm and there are Dowlings in there........... a description and history of the Parish : http://www.from-ireland.net/aghaboeparish.htm That's an old page and the script font etc have not been reduced as on the rest of the site yet so apologies if you find it hard to read. The legend Bewitched Butter is about Aghaboe parish if I remember rightly - written by one of our most famous story tellers - John Keegan http://www.from-ireland.net/stories/bewitchedbutter.htm again an old page with the larger font that I haven't reformatted yet. Jane Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "james and dawn dowling" <mizzou@mcmsys.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 7:14 PM Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Fw: Dowling- Whelan Families > > > Hello, I am searching for information about Patrick Francis Dowling born 4/27/1837 in queens (laois) county Ireland and immigrated to the u.s. in 1851. His fathers name was Edward Dowling, and his mother was Sarah Whelan or Whalen Dowling born abt. 1815. > I believe they are from the parrish of Aghaboe in Queens co. (now laois). Patricks brothers name is also Edward Dowling born about 1847 in same county and also immigrated in 1851 to u.s. He lived his whole life in his brothers home and never married. > I have no evidence that Edward Dowling (the father) ever immigrated to the u.s., but sarah whalen dowling did show up living with her son, in a u.s. directory in 1866. > Any information or recommendations on how to search for this family would be most appreciated. I have ordered micro films from the RLDS family history center, here in my home town in the u.s. I do know that they had at least one other sibling, but I have no other information in him/her. Thank you in advance for any advice or help. Sincerely James Dowling, (gr. Grandson of patrick) mizzou@mcmsys.com > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > Visit Laois Ireland Genealogy: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/ > >

Authentic is what we aim for. Handed down - whether in Ireland, Australia or America all work for me. I am still looking for recipes. Glad to have one from you Jane :) Best wishes, Christina http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/recipes/main.htm -----Original Message----- From: Jane Lyons [mailto:jlyons1@iol.ie] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 5:57 PM To: IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: From Ireland...........Re: [IRL-LAOIS] Irish recipes wanted! how about authentic from Ireland Christine? There are some on Pat Connors web page at http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/misc.htm Jane :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <Ninah@carolina.rr.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 7:11 PM Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Irish recipes wanted! > Hello there... > I thought it would be fun to put together a page of recipes that we have > from our Irish Ancestors. > > If you have a recipe that has been passed down from an Irish ancestor please > share. You can post them here or send to me. > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== To contact the listowner: Ninah@carolina.rr.com

Hi ..., I'd have thought that not too much of a problem, since most of the basic 19c records you'll need to find your ancestor - e.g. BDM records and Griffiths Valuation etc - are filed under parishes, not towns. Also, the Irish parishes seem to me to be quite small and there's probably not more than one town in most of them, and sooner or later you'll probably come across a pysical address in one of the records which will give you a town name. Regards Pamela At 11:04 15.01.02 -0800, james and dawn dowling wrote: >o.k. so what if you know the county AND the parish of your ancestor in Ireland, but Don't know the name of the town they originated? >Any advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks so much >mizzou@mcmsys.com An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ.

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This virus warning is a hoax. See: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/family.pictures.html Christina Listowner IRL-LAOIS-L -----Original Message----- From: Michael Brennan [mailto:michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:40 AM To: IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Fw: VIRUS WARNING > > URGENT ATTENTION > > > > This looks like a bad one that's coming. Forward this to others. > > > > Please read > > DO NOT OPEN: "NEW PICTURES OF FAMILY". It is a virus > > that will erase your whole "C" drive. > > > > It will come to you in the form of a E-mail from a > > familiar person. Michael Brennan ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== Visit Laois Ireland Genealogy: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/

According to Symantec, this is listed as a hoax: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/family.pictures.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Brennan" <michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:40 AM Subject: [IRL-LAOIS] Fw: VIRUS WARNING > > > URGENT ATTENTION > > > > > > This looks like a bad one that's coming. Forward this to others. > > > > > > Please read > > > DO NOT OPEN: "NEW PICTURES OF FAMILY". It is a virus > > > that will erase your whole "C" drive. > > > > > > It will come to you in the form of a E-mail from a > > > familiar person. > > Michael Brennan > > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > Visit Laois Ireland Genealogy: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/ >