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I'm not after Geoghegans, but your website is TERRIFIC!!! Lots of good stuff, but not so much as to be overwhelming. Clever and bouncy!! Pat

Can anyone tell me if there are any passenger lists for people going from Ireland to England in the 1800s online - there seem to be lots for USA, Australia, Canada etc. Thanks

I have just found out from the UK 1881 census (Birmingham) that my ancestors Patrick Fitzpatrick and Bridget Kelly were born in "Queens County, Ireland". Patrick would have been born c. 1821 and Bridget c. 1827. Any info welcome and gratefully received. This is my first dable into Irish research - I may be needing lots of help so any advice also welcome! Thanks Trudie Davidson

I would be interested in the answer to this also. Perhaps records were not kept in England for arrivals from Ireland who were traveling on to North America or elsewhere. Frank in Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: "tdavidson" <tdavidson@tinyworld.co.uk> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:08 PM Subject: [LAOIS] Ships to England > Can anyone tell me if there are any passenger lists for people going from Ireland to England in the 1800s online - there seem to be lots for USA, Australia, Canada etc. > Thanks > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > An Irishman has an abiding sense of tragedy which sustains him through temporary periods of joy. > >

Hi Bob, Thanks for getting back to me. As you say, research in Ireland is difficult, especially if you don't know the parish or even the town. I only know she was from Laois as I found her on the 1901 census in Manchester. Likewise, if I find anything else, I'll get back to you. Regards, Pam

I have just discovered (thanks to the 1901 census) that my great great grandmother was born in Laois in 1863/64. Not sure where though. Her father was Martin MOORE. She married in Manchester, England in 1887. Any connections ? Pam Smith (Bolton, Lancashire)

No connection of which I am aware, however, my grandmother's grandmother was named Moore. I am trying to have research done in Ireland, but it is difficult unless you know the parish where they were born. The British burned most of the census records to make room for World War 1 records, so the public record is pretty bare. As my grandmother & her sister were born in 1857 & 1860 there may be a cousinly connection. If I can obtain any more info I will get back to you. I appreciate your email. Bob Stewart -----Original Message----- From: Pamsmith1512@aol.com [mailto:Pamsmith1512@aol.com] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:23 AM To: IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [LAOIS] MOORE I have just discovered (thanks to the 1901 census) that my great great grandmother was born in Laois in 1863/64. Not sure where though. Her father was Martin MOORE. She married in Manchester, England in 1887. Any connections ? Pam Smith (Bolton, Lancashire) ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== To contact the listowner: Ninah@carolina.rr.com

Hi there, I have been asked about Delanys in Laois as I have a Delany family. Mine is back in the early 1700's so I don't know anything further forward. However, I just came across a simple Delany pedigree called Delany of Bagnalstown Co. Carlow. It starts with James DELANY (b. 1789) of Newtown m. Anne d/o Daniel NOLAN. The source is Vistitation of Ireland by Frederick A. Crisp, Vol. 5. Pub 1911. Also mentioned Margaret wife of Patrick BRENNAN of Killgorey, Queen's Co. Joanna d/o William BRENNAN of Skehana. Bridget d/o Wm. KEATING of Ballyharmon. Mary d/o James BUTLER If anyone wants a scan of this page I will send it. Just contact me at: Ninah@carolina.rr.com Regards, Christina North Carolina, USA

Hi Penny, I would be interested to know about De Vesey archive and if they include Estate Records and where to find them, Helen Robinson, Adelaide, Sth Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Penny Ford <pforden@dimensional.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 8:26 AM Subject: [LAOIS] De Vesci family archives > I wonder if any researchers of the Abbeyleix area have delved into the > archives of the De Vesey family, that covers so much of the history of > the area. My recollection is that some of these records are on > microfilm, but I don't know if or how the film might be accessible in > the U.S. or outside of the archives where the records are kept. > > Thanks for any comment or experiences you can share. > > Penny Ford > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > User Contributed Irish Databases at Rootsweb: > http://userdb.rootsweb.com/regional.html#Ireland > > >

I wonder if any researchers of the Abbeyleix area have delved into the archives of the De Vesey family, that covers so much of the history of the area. My recollection is that some of these records are on microfilm, but I don't know if or how the film might be accessible in the U.S. or outside of the archives where the records are kept. Thanks for any comment or experiences you can share. Penny Ford

List, A passing note reference HOTMAIL, if you exceed your file size allotment mail will bounce. You have to clean up your storage once in-awhile Here is the NOTE from the MSN site: How much e-mail storage space do I get with MSN Hotmail? MSN Hotmail gives you 2 megabytes (MB) of storage space when you store your messages and attachments on MSN Hotmail servers. If you do not keep your account below this limit, Hotmail may remove some messages and their attachments. Messages and attachments removed by Hotmail cannot be recovered. To avoid exceeding the storage limit, we recommend that you save large attachments in a folder on your hard disk. Hope this helps with the problem Bob Cdn.

Hi Penny, At 09:59 26.08.02 -0600, you wrote: >One of the Mulhall / Munhall sisters married a Dowling / Dooling; one >married a Lawlor. The Dooling 's boy became a priest and was a >supervisor over an orphanage in Chicago, where I believe his mother >lived, also. You might like to try the DOWLING list - subscribe the usual way at DOWLING-L-request@rootsweb.com, and also check the archives of the list just in case. There are a lot of American DOWLING reserchers on it and you may be lucky. :-) Regards Pam An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ. DOWLING-L admin.

Pamela, Thanks so much for suggesting the Dowling list. I am not sure if I ever posted on there, but I will definitely check the archives. Am going to be out of town for awhile, but will subscribe when I get back. Thank you again. Hope we can keep in touch. Penny Ford GG granddaughter of Michael O'Connor (Conner) of Abbeyleix and Fillmore County, Minnesota

For the last week or more I have been seeing some odd bounces to Hotmail accts. In fact whole pages of them. I sent Hotmail a note just now but do not know what the problem is. Obviously if you have a hotmail acct you may not receive this warning but I thought I should try. After several bounces you will automatically be unsubbed from Rootsweb lists. I hope this will get through. You might consider an acct with another free internet provider like Yahoo.com if this continues. There are others. Again, if you have Hotmail you may be missing mail and may even bounce off your lists. Regards, Christina Listowner Ninah@carolina.rr.com

My family history consistently recounts that the "landlord" of my Conner / O'Connor 2x great grandfather, Michael O'Connor, sent Michael to England "to school" during the famine. Michael apparently shows up in the Birmingham, England census with some family members. Because he was a boilermaker in Boston in 1854, we think he is this "engineer": William CONNER Lodg(Head) M 30 M Farmers Labourer ----Ire Ann CONNER Wife M 34 F --- ----Ire John CONNER Lodg U 27 M Farmers Labourer ----Ire Michael CONNER Lodg U 18 M Engineer ----Ire Frank FAHERTY Lodg U 19 M Engineer ----Ire Address: 14 Court Steelhouse Lane, Birmingham Census Place: Birmingham Birmingham, Warwickshire There is another Michael "Connor" living with a Nery family in Birmingham at this time, about the same age. I don't know if Nery is a name in Abbeyleix. We don't know much about Michael's family in Ireland or siblings that might have come to America -- we know he married a relative of the Mulhall family -- his wife's family settled in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania early on, perhaps before 1840, and made and lost huge fortunes in the steel industry there (changed there name to Munhall.) That Munhall family also is from Abbeyleix, though supposedly Michael's wife came from another part of Ireland entirely. I am looking for other Abbeyleix families with similar stories of being "sent to school" or sent to England to work, etc. I would also like to connect with others of the O'Connor and Mulhall families from there. One of the Mulhall / Munhall sisters married a Dowling / Dooling; one married a Lawlor. The Dooling 's boy became a priest and was a supervisor over an orphanage in Chicago, where I believe his mother lived, also. Penny Ford 2x great granddaughter of Michael O'Connor of Fillmore County, Minnesota

Hi there, I have added a small encumbered estate to the Encumbered Estates page. This one is located in Lisbigney. The tenants listed are: Lot No. 1 Edward CAVANAGH Widow MURPHY John BRAZILL Thomas BUTLER Lot No 2 Pierce RYAN John LALOR Thomas GOFF Joseph CANTFILL Patrick CODY John CAVANAGH Thomas BUTLER William BERGIN John BURKE Widow BURKE The one for Pierce Ryan stated that the "lives" named in the lease were brothers. That is the first one I have run across on this film that gave relationships. If interested in looking at this addition - go to County Laois Genealogy (IGP) www.rootsweb.com/~irllex Click on ENCUMBERED ESTATES. It has a "New" button next to it. Regards, Christina North Carolina, USA

Just a note on the topic of Trinity College. A couple of people I did lookups for in Alumni Dublineses did not find their person or the book did not cover past the late 1800's when they had someone there. I was just told by a correspondent that she found a couple more titles: "One is known as List of Pupils who entered TCD 1706-1901. That consists of one fiche only. The number is 6035485. The other is known as Register of Alumni of TCD up to 1968. That one consists of 7 fiche. The number is 6035486." I have not double checked these but it sounds like they are lists and may not have further info in them. Nonetheless, if anyone is seeking proof of someone having gone to TCD and we did not find it these fiche might help. I wanted to pass this info on to anyone it might help. Regards, Christina North Carolina, USA

How about http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=Colonus or http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Colonus+%2B+Ireland Regards Michael Brennan in Kent, England. Home Page: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com Award Winning CARLOW IGP: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/ Norton AntiVirus 2002 is Active ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <Ninah@carolina.rr.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 3:42 AM Subject: [LAOIS] DELANEY -Patrick, Dean of Down > Hi all, > I got a couple of tidbits of info from the Anglican Library in Dublin today. My > ancestor - Thomas Dulaney b. abt 1662 in Queen's County had a nephew Patrick > Delaney who became Dean of Down. Thomas and his sons came to America and > founded a large branch of Dulaneys here. It seemed that his nephew having > achieved some prominence might be a conduit to learning who the father of > Thomas was. > What I learned today was that the father of Patrick was named Denis Delaney. > (Dennis is a name that permeates the American branch.) Patrick was born at > Rathkrea. Next to the words Denis D. is in quotes "Colonus" [farmer]. > > Does anyone know what Colonus means??? Is it a place or title. There was > another brother Daniel. I don't know if I am any closer but I know Rathkrea > now. > > Regards, > Christina > North Carolina, USA > > ______________________________

I did find it. Colonus means farmer. I discovered the Alumni Dublineses uses Latin terms for the father's occupation. It looked like Alumni Dublineses was the source for the bio I got from the Anglican Library. Regards, Christina North Carolina, USA On Mon, 19 Aug 2002 23:12:49 +0100, Michael Brennan wrote: >How about http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=Colonus > >or > >http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859- >1&q=Colonus+%2B+Ireland > > >Regards Michael Brennan in Kent, England. > >Home Page: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com Award Winning CARLOW >IGP: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/ > >Norton AntiVirus 2002 is Active ----- Original Message ----- >From: "Christina Hunt" <Ninah@carolina.rr.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS- >L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 3:42 AM Subject: >[LAOIS] DELANEY -Patrick, Dean of Down > > >>Hi all, I got a couple of tidbits of info from the Anglican Library >>in Dublin >today. My >>ancestor - Thomas Dulaney b. abt 1662 in Queen's County had a >>nephew >Patrick >>Delaney who became Dean of Down. Thomas and his sons came to >>America and founded a large branch of Dulaneys here. It seemed that >>his nephew having achieved some prominence might be a conduit to >>learning who the father of Thomas was. >>What I learned today was that the father of Patrick was named Denis >Delaney. >>(Dennis is a name that permeates the American branch.) Patrick was >>born at Rathkrea. Next to the words Denis D. is in quotes "Colonus" >>[farmer]. >> >>Does anyone know what Colonus means??? Is it a place or title. >>There was another brother Daniel. I don't know if I am any closer >>but I know >Rathkrea >>now. >> >>Regards, Christina North Carolina, USA >> >>______________________________ > > > >==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== Remember...virus announcements and >list ettiquette are the province of the listowner. If you have a >concern contact: Ninah@carolina.rr.com