I am not sure, but I do show two of the grandsons of this couple married to my Sixsmith (Sexsmith) line in Canada. I only have the names of 4 boys in my data base as children and would love to have information on as many of the other 19 as you would share with me. I will also share any info I have on the grandchildren. thank you btaylorb@msn.com *~~*~~*~~* BARBARA *~~*~~*~~*

>Jane, > >I did attend BIFHS-USA's Queen Mary Seminar last July and saw a >lectute on just this topic by Kyle J. Betit. This was a very good >talk. Our lecture notes did include many sources for people to find >their family's nuns and priests. I think I have two and a half >pages of sources for this. Our seminar chairman stated that this >was the first time she could ever get anyone to speak on this topic, >and this was the 15th annual seminar. > >Some of the tips for finding: > >- find an obituary for this person, it most likely would mention >which religious order this person belonged to. > >- If the family was living in Ireland, find out where, then find out >which religious order took care of that area (parish or school etc.) > - If another family member was in a religious order, it is more >likely, (not a 100% thing) but more probably this person joined the >same order. > >- Check the Irish Catholic directories over the time period of >interest. This will list all the orders for priest and nuns. For >men the orders listed in 1836 included: --Dominican (OP) >--Franciscans (OFM) --Capuchins (OFM.Cap) --Augustinians (OSA) >--Carmelites (O. Carm) --Discalced Carmelites (OCD) --Society of >Jesus (Jesuits, SJ) --Trappists (Cistercians, O.Cist, or OCSO) >--Christian Brothers (CFC) --Patrician Brothers (FSP) > >---In 1801 there were only six orders for women in Ireland >(Benedictines, Carmalites, Dominicans, Poor Clares, Presentation >Sisters, and Ursulines) and at that time only elevent convents. By >1901 there were 35 orders and 368 convents in Ireland. > >The most two orders with the highest enrollment in the 19th century >were the Presentation Sisters (PBVM, started in 1775) and the >Sisters of Mercy (RSM, started in 1831) See "Nuns in Nineteenth- >Century Ireland by Ciatrona CLEAR, [Dublin: Gill and Macmillian, >1987]. > >Some addresses of organizations relevant to this kind of genealogy: > >-All Hallows College: Grace Park Road, Dublin 9, Ireland; Tel: (01) >373745 > >-Catholic Central Library: 74 Merrion Square, Dublin 2, Ireland; Tel >(01) 6761264 > >-Pontifical Irish College (Rome): Via dei SS Quattro 1, Roma 00184, >Italy; Tel: 6-70476122/70476779; Fax 6-70476150. > >-St. Patrick's College, Maynooth, Co. Kildare, Ireland; Tel: (01) >6285222; Fax: (01) 6289063 > >More addresses of interest can be found in Dwight A. Radford and >Kyle J. Betit's book "A Genealogists Guide to Discovering Your Irish >Ancestors", [Cincinnati: Betterway Books, 2001] > >Here are a few more sources: > >-Betit, Kyle J. "Irish Continental Colleges," The Irish At Home and >Abroad (volume 6, number 2, 2nd Quarter 1999) > >-Betit, Kyle J. "Priests, Nuns, and Brothers in Ireland," Irish >Archives (2002 issue), Reprinted from "The Irish at Home and Abroad" >(volume 5, number 2, 2nd Quarter 1998). > >-Betit, Kyle J. "Researching Catholic Nuns, Brothers and Priests in >the U.S. for Place of Origin," The Irish at Home and Abroad (volume >4, number 3, 3rd Quarter 1997). > >-Caroll, Sister Austin. Annals of the Sisters of Mercy. 4 vols. New >York: Catholic Publication Society, 1882. > >There are many more sources I have here from Kyle J. Betit's lecture >notes. I cannot emphasize enough that for lectures I have seen on >Irish Genealogy, Kyle was the best I had ever seen. Kyle works at >FHC in SLC, Utah. > >If someone wants a more specific reference, mention which order or I >will look for you. > >Jim > > >--- Jane Lyons <jlyons1@iol.ie> wrote: > >>Or, at least I don't think so.............they had taken new names, >>their surname will have stayed the same but they became someone >>else. My Auntie Nun went from being Mary Jane to Mother >>Columcille............she was still Gallivan but she was not buried >>as Mary Jane - and I imagine her death record will show her >>religious name as when she died. >> >>Mother Columcille Gallivan. >> >>I imagine Mother Malachy, Sister Patricia and all those other nuns >>will have gone also unrecognised to their graves. >> >>Sounds hard to say unrecognised - they were recognised by their >>living families - those who knew them - but back then, there were >>very few ancestor seekers.........and so, it comes to be that I >>never see or rarely see anyone looking for the nuns or priests of >>their families........particularly the nuns. > >> >>and what happened all those nuns graveyards and how they are named >>in their death certificates is something I'd like to know - maybe I >>should head off and try to find my Mother Columcille. >> >>Jane

Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 Dooling, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens Parish : Aghaboe Location : Gortnaclea This is the only Dooling listed in the Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 for Co Laois. Regards Michael Brennan in Kent, England. If you require further info on Research in Ireland why not visit one of the web sites listed below. Brennan Home Page & Co Laois: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com Award Winning CARLOW IGP: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/ New Home Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mjbrennan Norton AntiVirus 2002 is Active ----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Z. Ford" <pforden@dimensional.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 4:25 PM Subject: [LAOIS] Re: TOBIN, DOOLING, DELANEY, Ballickmoyler, Queens > I am also looking for a Dooling family from Laois. My gr gr grandmother > Mulhall / Munhall 's sister Cathrin was married to a Dooling. This family > apparently settled in Chicago, but much of the family did settle in > Allegheny County, PA. > I have been unable to find Cathrin or her son, who was supposedly a priest > in Chicago in the 1880's, in the censuses. I would be interested in > knowing when your Bridget Dooling came to the US, by what route, etc., if > you know. > > Thanks. > Penny Ford > > ______________________________

Hi I have a William O'Brien b. about `1845 Casteltown Co. Queen his parents were Martin O'Brien and Mary Kelly William went to NZ about 1875 would love to hear from someone with any connection as I am at a stand still------Helen Helen Palenski, NewZealand, N.Z.G.S.no 16595

Hi Tom, How I wish we had a connection but my Mary MAHER married Patrick DUNN probable in the Killeshin area. That is down in the Southeast corner of Laois by Carlow. There first child was born about 1844. However the second child born 1845 was baptized at the Parish of Portarlington. Patrick and Mary were my GGparents. They immigrated about 1846 to Salem, MA, and then to PA. I have found Laois the hardest county to work with. I found lots of record from Donegal and Galway from other ancestors. I can't even get an answer to letters for church records down in Killeshin. I did find where the church records were transferred to Carlow but no answer there either. Of course this, the DUNN line, is my Fathers line the one I really want to follow. Do your Mahers pronounce it with a long r as Mahr - or as MAyer? Just curious as mine used the long r pronunciation. Anyway thanks for your answer and the best of luck with your research. Anne

ROE - My Roes come from the Laois/Tipp border area - especially William Roe (1814-1898) of Ballykelly. Seeking info on William's parents and siblings. All were Protestant. JESTIN - William's sons Robert and Peter married Jestin sisters from Sentry Hill, Borris-in-Ossory, Laois. Seeking information on their parents. BEATSON - Also seeking info on the family of William's daughter Elizabeth (Bessie) who m. John Beatson 1881, and any family they had. SKUCE - Also seeking info on the family of William's son John who d.1890s in Portland Oregon. He married Adelia Skuce from Cork? She d.c.1948 in Oregon. Many thanks, Evan Roe.

--- Original Message --- From: "SHORTALL FAMILY" <patrickjshortall@indigo.ie> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: Sent: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 15:45:19 -0700 Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [LAOIS] ANDREW MAHER, QUEENS CTY., IRELAND >There is a Blandsfort Cross Roads in Laois just north east of the >town of Abbeyleix. The landlord in 1881 was Captain John Loftus >Bland. The Catholic parish registers of Abbeyleix begin in 1824 so >it might be possible to catch the relevant marriage. >Patrick J Shortall, Bettystown, Co Meath

Thanks Michael!!!!!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Brennan" <michael@janbren.freeserve.co.uk> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [LAOIS] Re: TOBIN, DOOLING, DELANEY, Ballickmoyler, Queens > Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1848-1864 > > > > Dooling, Thomas County : Laois/Leix/Queens > > Parish : Aghaboe > > Location : Gortnaclea > > This is the only Dooling listed in the Index to Griffith's Valuation of > Ireland, 1848-1864 for Co Laois. > > > Regards > Michael Brennan in Kent, England. > If you require further info on Research in Ireland why not visit one of the > web sites listed below. > > Brennan Home Page & Co Laois: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com > Award Winning CARLOW IGP: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/ > New Home Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mjbrennan > > Norton AntiVirus 2002 is Active > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "P. Z. Ford" <pforden@dimensional.com> > To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 4:25 PM > Subject: [LAOIS] Re: TOBIN, DOOLING, DELANEY, Ballickmoyler, Queens > > > > I am also looking for a Dooling family from Laois. My gr gr grandmother > > Mulhall / Munhall 's sister Cathrin was married to a Dooling. This family > > apparently settled in Chicago, but much of the family did settle in > > Allegheny County, PA. > > I have been unable to find Cathrin or her son, who was supposedly a priest > > in Chicago in the 1880's, in the censuses. I would be interested in > > knowing when your Bridget Dooling came to the US, by what route, etc., if > > you know. > > > > Thanks. > > Penny Ford > > > > ______________________________ > > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > Remember...virus announcements and list ettiquette are the province of the listowner. If you have a concern contact: > Ninah@carolina.rr.com > > >

I am reposting my interest in this individual, whom I have good reason to believe is my Great-Grandfather, but have, as yet, been unable to locate satisfactory documentation. At the Provincial Archives of New Brunswick I was able to locate Microfilm P-757 entitled Saint John (New Brunswick) Cemeteries and under Section 10 -Old Catholic Cemeteries- there was the following entry:- ANDREW MAHER, Died Nov. 16, 1871 -aged 75 yrs.-a Native of Blansford, Queens County, Ireland. From the above it would appear he was born circa 1796. However, inquiries to the Laois/Offaly Family History Research Centre elicited a response to the effect that they could not find a Blansford in County Laois, formally Queens County. Also at the Provincial Archives I was able to locate on Microfilm F-9798 -Passenger List of the Brig Sea Horse, From Dublin to Saint John- the following entries: (1)MAHAR, Andrew, Age 22; -Labourer; Marital Status- not listed; Residence -Queens County, and (2)MAHAR, Mary, Age 20; -Occupation -not listed; Marital Status -Spinster; Residence -Queens County. This Passenger List was Signed at Port of Dublin, April 17, 1833 by T. Roberts, Master, and, again, on June 12, 1833 at the Custom House, St. John, New Brunswick. Although the spelling of the Surname and the age do not match I have learned over time that, in this era, details such as these were not always recorded precisely. >From the Microfilms at the Provincial Archives, of the Sacramental Records of Saint Malachy's (R.C.) Church in Saint John, N.B., I have the following entries, which I have confirmed as being my ancestors. (1) Feb. 14, 1846 -Marriage -Andrew Meagher(Maher) to Marjorie McCallister (2) Feb. 21, 1847 -Baptism -Andrew Meagher(Maher) -aged 8days (my Grandfather) (3) Aug. 25, 1850 -Baptism -Catherine Maher -aged 13 days, and (4) Aug. 29, 1853 -Baptism -James Meagher(Maher) -aged10 days Note: The entry recording the above Marriage shows Andrew Meagher as Carpenter and Widower and that the marriage was by License (not banns as would be customary). This leads me to wonder if the Mary MAHAR recorded on the Sea Horse Passenger List was the first wife of Andrew MAHAR if, in fact, this is my Andrew MAHER? If any of the above is the least bit familiar to any member of this List I would be very much interested in hearing from you. Pete Maher St. Stephen, N.B.

I'm new to this list and just posting my interests - Thomas WILEY b1799, d1881 Ballinakill, Abbeyleix married Elizabeth WILLS b1798, d1887 Ballinakill, Abbeyleix in 1825 at Ballinakill. Believe parents of Thomas WILEY are Jacob WILEY and Jane ?. I don't know any more on Elizabeth WILLS. Children of Thomas & Elizabeth WILEY - Catherine WILEY born between 1831 - 1841 ? Thomas WILEY Aaron WILEY John WILEY Jane WILEY Sarah WILEY Hannah WILEY Catherine WILEY left Ireland and married George BESSANT in 1856 at Binstead, Isle of Wight, England. They stayed on the Isle of Wight and had 8 children. Catherine & George are my gt gt grandparents. Did Catherine come to England on her own or with brothers / sisters? Anyone else have WILEY's on their tree please? Carol

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IN IRELAND ( in 1931) The Roman Catholic Church in Ireland is governed by four Archbishops, whose sees are in Armagh, Dublin, Cashel and Tuam, and twenty four Bishops ; they are all nominated by the Pope, generally out of a list of three names submitted to him by the Parish priests and Chapter of the vacant diocese, and reported on by the Archbishop and Bishops of the Province. The diocesan dignitaries are the Vicars-General of whom there are one, two or three, according to the extent of the diocese, who have special disciplinary and other powers; Vicars Forane, whose functions are more restricted; the Archdeacon, and the Parish priests and Administrators. All of these as well as the Curates are appointed by the Bishop. The whole of the clergy are supported solely by the voluntary contributions of their flocks. The Episcopal emoluments arise from the mensal parish or two, the incumbency of which is retained y the Bishop, from marriage licences and from the cathedraticum, an annual sum, varying from £1 to £10 paid by each Parish Priest, Administrator and Curate in the Diocese. The 2,428 civil parishes in Ireland are amalgamated into 1,116 ecclesiastical parishes or unions. The incomes of the Parish Priests arise from fees on marriages, baptisms and deaths, on Easter and Christmas dues and from incidental voluntary contributions, either in money or labour. The number of Priests in Ireland in 1853 was 2,291 (of whom 1,222 were educated at Maynooth College) and the number in 1873 was 3,157. The Curates of the Parish priests form more than half of the whole clerical strength; and scattered through cities and towns are 70-80 communities of Priests of various religious orders or rules, hence called Regulars who minister to their own churches, and though without Parochial jurisdiction greatly aid the secular clergy. All the places of public worship are built and maintained by subscriptions, legacies and collections. There are numerous monasteries and convents; the latter are supported partly by sums, usually from £300 to £500, paid by those who take the vows in them, and partly by fees for the education of the daughters of respectable Roman Catholics. Various communities of Monks and Nuns also devote themselves to the gratuitous education of the children of the poor. Candidates for clerical ordination, formerly under the necessity of obtaining their education in continental colleges are now chiefly educated at home. According to the 1836 Catholic Registry and Directory there were 27 Dioceses in Ireland and approximately 3000 Priests: 960-970 Parish Priests, 1500 Curates and 500 Regular Clergy.

Always and ever on every list I see people looking for a family - giving all the names and ages where they can - looking for connections - the descendants of these people. How many of you ever realise that at many of those you seek will have left no record of themselves - there may be a birth record in the General Registrars Office and then you may see that marriage or death record and will never find one - perhaps for the men, maybe - but for the women - no............. Or, at least I don't think so.............they had taken new names, their surname will have stayed the same but they became someone else. My Auntie Nun went from being Mary Jane to Mother Columcille............she was still Gallivan but she was not buried as Mary Jane - and I imagine her death record will show her religious name as when she died. Mother Columcille Gallivan. I imagine Mother Malachy, Sister Patricia and all those other nuns will have gone also unrecognised to their graves. Sounds hard to say unrecognised - they were recognised by their living families - those who knew them - but back then, there were very few ancestor seekers.........and so, it comes to be that I never see or rarely see anyone looking for the nuns or priests of their families........particularly the nuns. It's not anyones fault - it just happens that most don't realise how it truly was. No family had enough for dowries and so daughters went into the convent - no family had enough land to go round and so sons joined the priesthood.......... Then again - maybe these days no-one wants to admit that they had a priest or nun in the family............... I think of the little nuns graveyard in the Loreto in Kilkenny - small simple little plaques. The convent is no longer and I wonder what happened that graveyard......... and also so many other graveyards by so many convents that I know are gone. Today, what was the Loreto Mother House in Rathfarnham in Dublin is no longer - it was sold a few years ago. I remember it as one fine building with huge grounds and it must have had a big graveyard. I remember the other small grraveyard down in Gorey too - that convent is no more also. I was home recently and was looking at an annual publication for my home town. Every year they do a few write ups on families in the area - those that have disappeared - those for whom the descendants of those who left have come looking - and every year they have photos - old photos, some that you can barely see - and ok, so photos weren't taken pre 1900 in Ireland or very rarely - but in these photos every family group has at least one nun and/or priest.......... to tell the truth, the photos really struck home this year because of all the nuns - two - four per family I'm being very conservative with my 'at least one' here. I'm going to jump now from the lost nuns and priests to the lost records - regularly I see queries on the lists as to where this or that priest was back in the 1840's or 50's because he married this or that couple........... and then to the lost parishes - my ancestors came from this or that parish - and who ever is loking will never, ever find that parish - one reason may be that they are looking for a Catholic parish and not a civil parish - different names and then the other reason may be that the Catholic parish they are looking for 'disappeared' or was united with another. Lost records - maybe the parish your ancestors were married or baptised in was split up into two - so you find one set of records in one parish and spend the rest of your life wishing there were earlier records for that parish - but there may be - all listed in an ealier parish that got too big to be handled and so townlands were handed over to another close by one. This applies not just to R.C. records but to those of other religions. For some religions there were so few people that the local meeting house was in the county next door. So, you come along looking for John from Co. Cork but his parish records are actually in Co. Waterford. Ah you can say - but sure all we have to do is check the web sites of the vatious Dioceses (religious) and then we'll see the names of the parishes in that diocese and we'll be able to know whether or not our parish is there - Not so.................the parishes as listed on any Dioscescan web page today are the parishes as they stand today - not as they stoot in 1900 and not as they stood ten years before that or forty years before that............. When I first created my web site I had this idea to list parishes and priests and vicars and all of those from 1836 or thereabouts - comparing the parish listings every ten years - only then, it was too much work and I couldn't type as fast as I do now and people didn't seem particularly intersted in those pages anyhow so I gave up............... To my mind it was very important - but back then almost two years ago now, other things took over. This last week - I've been thinking again about all those parishes - about all the religions in the world today and how more than likely few understand the structure of their own religion let alone that of ancestors who came from Ireland 150 years ago - civil and religions parishes are confusing - townlands are confusing - and by golly parishes that were like the water in a stream with townlands changing regularly enough are probably more confusing.......... One of the things that I have read is that priests were ofetn sent back close to home once they finished their trraining. I know that the names I see in the Dioscescan listings are usually those are are found in that county or the counties that these Dioceses cover. Each Dioscescan listing has the closest post town for the parish listed also............I think that's probably a great help 'cos it gives you an area - if you find your parish listed in 1836 for example and it's not there nowadays - then at least you have a closest post town to work from and if you home in on that and check all the records for the area around there then you've probably done as much as you can. So, back to business..............first of all, I'm going to post some pieces I have from where-ever I got it in the first place on the structure of the various religions - and then I am going to begin posting lists of Parish priests and curates and something on the state of religion (convents, friaries - ) in each diocese..........and then those of you interested in some parish records that you can't find might get a hint from these lists.......... and for all of that - I've still got no answer to the poor lost nuns - some orders are trying to get their records in order I do know that - some may even have finished...........but how much they would ever disclose to anyone and how close you'd have to be related to that anyone is another thing....... and what happened all those nuns graveyards and how they are named in their death certificates is something I'd like to know - maybe I should head off and try to find my Mother Columcille. Jane

Odlum Richard Odlum b. 1820 in Kyle, County Lois, Ireland  m. Joannah Crowley in 5/11/1844 in Grafton,MA, USA. She was b. 1821 in Kilmerry, County Cork, Ireland. Other names: Bommezyon,Browning, Cox, Crowley, Lammering, Mcguire, McLaughlin, Odlum Jack McLaughlin in AZ

Searching for information about Jacob Carter and possibly his mother Mary Pentland in the Rathdowney area of Laois. ----- Original Message ----- From: <IRL-LAOIS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 2:01 AM Subject: IRL-LAOIS-D Digest V03 #1

These are the only Moyles on this disk. May help, Luck Bob Cdn. ----------------------------------------------------------- MOYLES, Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 15 Mar 1868 Birthplace: 639, Emo, Queens, Ire Recorded in: Queens, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Robert MOYLES Mother: Ann MOYLES Source: FHL Film 101167 Dates: 1868 - 1868 MOYLES, James Fredrick Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 26 Mar 1868 Birthplace: 447, Abbeyleix, Queens, Ire Recorded in: Queens, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: James MOYLES Mother: Elizabeth Janne PRATT Source: FHL Film 101167 Dates: 1868 - 1868 MOYLES, Gore Arran Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 24 Sep 1870 Birthplace: 423, Stradbally, Queens, Ire Recorded in: Queens, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Thomas MOYLES Mother: Charlotte Jane EDGE Source: FHL Film 101217 Dates: 1870 - 1871 MOYLES, Robert William Southam Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 13 Sep 1872 Birthplace: 385, Abbeyleix, Queens, Ireland Recorded in: Queens, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: James MOYLES Mother: Elizabeth Jane PRATT Source: FHL Film 255858 Dates: 1872 - 1873 MOYLES, Thomas William Irwin Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 1 Mar 1875 Birthplace: Mountmelick, Queens, Ire Recorded in: Queens, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Thomas MOYLES Mother: Margaret Elizabeth MOORE Source: FHL Film 255923 Dates: 1874 - 1875

Looking for the place/date of birth for the following families. Bob Cdn --------------------------------------------------------------------- NORTON Patrick, born Ireland (Queens ?) ca. 1842, died Scotland ca 1904. McAFEE/McFIE, Mary (Anne), (Wife) born, ca 1853, Whitburn Sct. died 1881 Bathgate WLN Sct. married 1870 Bathgate WLN Sct. NORTON Michael, father of Patrick, born Ireland u/k, died Ireland(?) DUNN(e) Mary, mother of Patrick, born Ireland u/k, died ireland(?) McAFEE James, father of Mary (Anne), born Ireland u/k, died ca 1885 Sct. SHEARER Ann, mother of Mary (Anne), born Ireland u/k, died Sct. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- BROGAN James, born Ireland ca. 1843, died Sct. ca 1915 McBREARTY Hannah, born Ireland ca. 1845,, died Sct(?) married Anderston, Glasgow Sct. 1866 BROGAN James, father of James, born Ireland u/k, died, Ireland(?) GRIFFIN Sarah, mother of James, born Ireland u/k, died, Ireland(?) McBREARTY George, father of Hannah, born Ireland ca. 1821, died, Sct.(?) MARTIN Mary, mother of Hannah, born, Ireland ca 1831, died Sct.(?) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Penny, I know that Bridget came to the USA in 1865, I'm not sure what route they took. I have the records from Doonane parish in Laois at my local LDS site. I'll be going next week to look through them if you's like to give me some details on your family. Maybe we can find a connection to our families. Eddie Lubinsky ----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Z. Ford" <pforden@dimensional.com> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 11:25 AM Subject: [LAOIS] Re: TOBIN, DOOLING, DELANEY, Ballickmoyler, Queens > I am also looking for a Dooling family from Laois. My gr gr grandmother > Mulhall / Munhall 's sister Cathrin was married to a Dooling. This family > apparently settled in Chicago, but much of the family did settle in > Allegheny County, PA. > I have been unable to find Cathrin or her son, who was supposedly a priest > in Chicago in the 1880's, in the censuses. I would be interested in > knowing when your Bridget Dooling came to the US, by what route, etc., if > you know. > > Thanks. > Penny Ford > > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > For help with virus problems try Symantic: > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/ > > >

We are looking for ancestors of Daniel Kennedy and Margaret Donald. Not sure where he was born or parents but was married and two kids baptized in Queen's, Rathsaran, Ireland. The Family History center in Windsor, Ontario, Canada has them on microfilm as in the District of Roscrea, vol 10, page 31, page 1115 of 0101246. 1. Daniel Kennedy was born on Feb 27 1838 (we also have a date of Feb 14 1837) in Ireland. (don't know where). He died on May 15 1902 in Chatham, Kent County, Ontario, Canada. Sons George Edward and Patrick James (see baptism info below) were born in Ireland before emigrating to Canada in 1863. Family history through the years ... "has Daniel was born in Ireland on a Tuesday of a Leap Year (?) and baptized as a Catholic. He fought as a soldier of the British Army in the battle at Alma in the Crimean War and was wounded four times. He was shot in the leg, the arm, the side and a good portion of his skull was blown off by a Russian shell. He was put on the "dead wagon". A nurse by the name of Margaret Donald, who worked with Florence Nightingale on the battlefield, noticed that he still had a pulse and pulled him from the wagon. He was transferred to a hospital in Scutari, Turkey for recovery. A steel plate was put in his head to cover the wound. Margaret took care of him and eventually they were married. Margaret was a Scot and a protestant." Daniel married Margaret Donald, daughter of James Donald and Isabella Davidson, on Nov 6 1856 in Leix (Queen's), Rathsaran, Ireland. Margaret was born on Feb 13 1839 in Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland. She died on May 6 1907 in Canada. Daniel and Margaret moved to Canada in 1863 with their older son George, and Patrick (six months old) and settled in Chatham, Ontario. Daniel and Margaret had the following children: 2 M i. Edward George Kennedy "George" was born about 1856 in Ireland and was christened in Ireland. He died in California, U.S.A. 3 M ii. Patrick James Kennedy was born on Sep 23 1862 in Leix or Laoighes (formerly Queen's), Rathsaran, Ireland and was christened on Nov 30 1862 in Queen's, Rathsaran, Ireland (we have copy of baptismal certificate). He died on Jul 8 1939 in Detroit MI (Wayne Co.). Patrick married Anna Mary Toomer in 1888. Anna was born on Apr 14 1869 in Utica, N.Y. (Oneida County). She died on Oct 5 1938 in Windsor ON. 4 M iii. Daniel Kennedy "Dan" was born in 1869 in Chatham ON. He died in Dec 1956 in Leamington and was buried in Evergreen Memorial Cemetery, Leamington. Dan married Kate Anne Campbell. Kate was born in 1863 in Colchester North Township. She died on Oct 26 1937 in Leamington ON. 5 M iv. William H Kennedy "Will" was born on Oct 16 1871 in Chatham ON and was christened in Chatham ON. He died on Nov 7 1959 in Windsor ON and was buried in Colchester Cemetery. Will married Orpha Ellen Grant in Jun 1905 in Essex ON (country church). Orpha was born on Jul 19 1886 in Essex ON. She died on Feb 23 1966 in Colchester. 6 M v. Thomas Kennedy was born on Feb 28 1874 in Chatham, Kent Co., ON. He died on Jan 2 1963 in Riverview Hospital, Windsor ON and was buried in Greenhill Cemetery, Kingsville ON. Thomas married Mary Elizabeth Farough, daughter of Jean Baptiste Farough and Jemima Grace Collins, on Mar 31 1895 in Maidstone. Mary was born on May 21 1874. She died on Jun 3 1970 in Grace Hospital, Windsor and was buried in Greenhill Cemetery, Kingsville ON. Any help, greatly appreciated. Norm Talbot

Researching the Phelan and Findlay / Finley families. The Phelans lived in the town of Coolrain in the parish of Offerlane (if COI) or Camross / Castletown (if RC). My ggreat grandfather Martin Phelan married Ellen/Elenor with various surnames - Findlay / Findley / Finlay / Finnelly / Fennely / Finley / Fineley prior to 1857. My great grandmother Mary Phelan was born c1857. There were presumably other children born in the period 1858-1863. Seven further children were born after registration in 1864: Bernard Phelan - born 31/01/1864 in Coolrain, Elenor " - born 20/06/1865 " " , Peter " - born 07/07/1867 " " , Kate " - born 31/12/1868 " " , Anne " - born 31/12/1868 " " , Thomas " - born 05/02/1870 " " , Bridget " - born 23/03/1872 " " . Martin had various occupations: 1864 - Road Contractor, 1865/1867 - Shopkeeper, 1868/1872 - Publican. I was originally told that the family were COI but am now convinced that they were Roman Catholic. Mary left Ireland for New Zealand in 1875 and married Joseph Stanley (ex Borrisokane - Co Tipp) the same year in Christchurch, New Zealand.

Looking for any information on Mary Delaney born in Queens Co in about 1838 died 1929, I think her father was Martin Delaney, they lived in Farran (Farrenglish glebe), Aghaboe where Martin was a farmer Mary married my ggrandfather James Butler in 1872 in the church at clogh (Clough) Also looking for Margaret Phelan born about 1878 she married my grandfather, I think she came from a farm near Shanahoe I am fairly confident that many of the Delaney's that live in the triangle of Castlecomer, Balinakill, Newtown, must have family connections so would welcome any emails form anyone else looking for Delaney's in this area. Regards Peter Butler CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE AND LEGAL LIABILITY WAIVER The content of this email and any attachments are CONFIDENTIAL and may contain privileged information. If you are not the addressee it may be UNLAWFUL for you to read, copy, distribute, disclose or otherwise use the information contained herein