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    1. Re: [LAOIS] Lord
    2. Catherine Sankey
    3. thomas Lord is listed on the marraige cert. of my great great grandmother Susannah Lord when she married Oliver Strong. thomas Kennedy is also on the cert. Coolbaugh is where Susannah is from.

    01/27/2003 03:43:42
    1. [LAOIS] Dugan/Duigan
    2. Looking for information on the family of Mary Ann Duigan/Dugan. She was born in Rathdowney and was baptized in Clough, County Laois in 1868. She immigrated to USA between 1887 and 1897 where she married Patrick H. Purcell (of Tipperary). Her parents were James (or Michael) Duigan and Mary Cass. Does she sound familiar to anyone??? Judy Penrod Purcell Duncanville, TX

    01/27/2003 11:09:13
    1. Re: [LAOIS] Roll Call - DOWLING, DEVINE/DEEVY.
    2. Pamela Dowling
    3. Hi Leo, Having relatives in Laois - now isn't that cheating? ;-) If you come across my Elizabeth, don't forget to throw her my way will you! <G> Regards Pam An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ. At 16:52 27.01.03 +1300, you wrote: > Basically I manage to steer my way through the problem by >knowing the christian name of whom I am looking for and tend to ignore >the surname provided it is either Devoy or a DEEVY variable. Having >relatives >in Laois also helps considerably,cheers Leo. An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ.

    01/27/2003 10:22:39
    1. Re: [LAOIS] Roll Call - DOWLING, DEVINE/DEEVY.
    2. Leo McKEEFRY
    3. Hi Pamela, Basically I manage to steer my way through the problem by knowing the christian name of whom I am looking for and tend to ignore the surname provided it is either Devoy or a DEEVY variable. Having relatives in Laois also helps considerably,cheers Leo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dowling" <iregenie@gmx.net> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [LAOIS] Roll Call - DOWLING, DEVINE/DEEVY. > Hi Leo, > > Thank you so much for this input - though you're right, I do find it a bit > confusing. <VBG> > > In essence you're saying that their name really was DEVINE but that for > some reason they'd be called/recorded as DEEV(E)Y, as would DEVOYs? This > sounds very "Irish" to me <G> - do you have any further explanation or is > it just one of those things one accepts? Does it have to do with local > pronunciation? > > Presumably when looking in indices and so on, you also check DEEV(E)Y when > looking for DEVOY? So when you find one how do you know it's not a DEVINE? > > Sorry for delay replying - I've been unwell. > Thanks again > Pam > An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ. >

    01/27/2003 09:52:28
    1. Re: [LAOIS] Roll Call - DOWLING, DEVINE/DEEVY.
    2. Pamela Dowling
    3. Hi Leo, Thank you so much for this input - though you're right, I do find it a bit confusing. <VBG> In essence you're saying that their name really was DEVINE but that for some reason they'd be called/recorded as DEEV(E)Y, as would DEVOYs? This sounds very "Irish" to me <G> - do you have any further explanation or is it just one of those things one accepts? Does it have to do with local pronunciation? Presumably when looking in indices and so on, you also check DEEV(E)Y when looking for DEVOY? So when you find one how do you know it's not a DEVINE? Sorry for delay replying - I've been unwell. Thanks again Pam An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ. At 22:08 17.01.03 +1300, you wrote: >Evening Pamela, > Saw your message and not wishing to confuse the >issue but my Wife's family DEVOY come from Stradbally in Co. Laois and the >family there is known as DEEVY and we have several instances of official >certificates for DEVOY having the name DEEVY on them. Most local people in >Laois know that the name they use is incorrect and what the correct name is. > I would suspect that this is also the case with your DEVINE >being called DEEVY. With the local dialect there is not a huge difference >between the names DEVINE and DEVOY. > I have also come across the name DEEVY spelt as DEEVEY,cheers An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ.

    01/27/2003 08:03:57
    1. Re: [LAOIS] Roll Call - DOWLING, DEVINE/DEEVY.
    2. Bart Brassil
    3. have you ever seen the treaty that sits on the following website? http://perso.wanadoo.fr/patrick.lallour/Olalour/ol1607treaty.htm Dowlings there and then transplanted to Co. Kerry Bart >From: Pamela Dowling <iregenie@gmx.net> >Reply-To: IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com >To: IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [LAOIS] Roll Call - DOWLING, DEVINE/DEEVY. >Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 17:22:39 +1300 > >Hi Leo, > >Having relatives in Laois - now isn't that cheating? ;-) If you come >across my Elizabeth, don't forget to throw her my way will you! <G> > >Regards >Pam >An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ. > >At 16:52 27.01.03 +1300, you wrote: > > Basically I manage to steer my way through the problem by > >knowing the christian name of whom I am looking for and tend to ignore > >the surname provided it is either Devoy or a DEEVY variable. Having > >relatives > >in Laois also helps considerably,cheers Leo. > >An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ. > > >==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== >To Unsubscribe send an email to: >IRL-LAOIS-L-request@rootsweb.com >Only the word *unsubscribe* in the message. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

    01/27/2003 04:11:11
    1. [LAOIS] Stradbally Parish Register
    2. Rick and Lorraine
    3. Hi List I need advice on accessing the Church of Ireland Parish Register for Stradbally. Apparently it is held by the local parish. So, where do I write to? To whom mightI address the enquiry? Is it likely that my enquiry will be responded to? Might there be copies held centrally, in Dublin? I am hoping to find recorded the baptism of Henry Porter VASS c1818 (and of any siblings of course); the marriage of his parents, Michael Walter VASS and Jane PORTER (sometime before 1818); perhaps even their and their siblings baptisms and their deaths. I am aware of the Laois & Offaly Family History Research Centre but their charges seem particularly high and there has been some debate on the Offaly list as to their strength in Protestant enquiries. Besides that they don't seem to be interested in responding to email, although they say all initial enquiries are answered promptly. I sent something they promoted as a "free assessment" last March and never got a response. Also sent an email on 19 Jan this year. Nada, and these were for a Catholic enquiry. Kind regards Lorraine Vass Wyrallah, Northern NSW

    01/27/2003 03:09:07
    1. [LAOIS] some marriage licenses
    2. My mail program seems to be having problems so I am sending this from my webmail. The following are from The Fisher Manuscripts: Prerogative Marriage Licenses (extracts), 1630- 1858, A-F [FHL# 0100167] They were extracted by Denis O'Callaghan Fisher. ***NO OTHER INFORMATION. I am giving the best reading I could make on these. Some of the names were hard to decipher (?). Spr = spinster/Question marks are mine. ARMSTRONG, William of Portarlington, Queens Co. Esq., & Charlotte CHAMPAGNE of Portarlington. 30 Jul 1789 BUTTERFIELD (?), Elisha of Rossanailis Queens Co., far(mer?) & Mary MABRAY of Clonenagh _ Co. Spr., 19 Nov 1715 BALDROM, Joseph of Maryboro, Queens Co., Pawar (?) & Charity BARSLEY of Ballyboy Kings Co., Spr., 20 Jan 1715 BUL_OD, Lous (?) of Lee? Queens Co., mer(chant ?) & Catherine BEAUCOURT of St. Michan, Dub. Spr. 30 Jun 1718 BUSHELL, Wm. of Rosannallis, Queens Co., forgeman, & Ellenor MEBRAY of Clonenough _ Co., Spr., 8 Oct 1719 *BRONY? (BURY?), Michael of Lea Queens Co farmer & Dorothea KELLY of __ Dublin, Spr. 10 May 1727 BLAND, William of ___roan Queens Co., Esq. & Letitia DAVYS of St. Catherine Dublin, Spr., 28 Nov 1732 BALDROM, Wm. of Rosanallis Queens Co., Gent., & ___isanna GILBURNE (?) of Anatrum (?) ___ Co., Spr., 15 Dec 1735 BIDDULPH, Nichs. of Birr? Kings Co., Esq. & Patience COLLY of Stradbally Queens Co., Spr., 24 Apr 1736 BEAUCHANT, Saml. of Lea Queens Co., mercht. & Mary Anne DE LEVENGE of St. Peter? Dublin, Spr., 20 Jan 1741 * Any thoughts on this name? more to come. Regards, Christina www.rootsweb.com/~irllex

    01/22/2003 06:38:58
    1. [LAOIS] some marriage licenses
    2. Christina Hunt
    3. The following are from The Fisher Manuscripts: Prerogative Marriage Licenses, 1630- 1858, A-F [FHL# 0100167] They were extracted by Denis O'Callaghan Fisher. ***NO OTHER INFORMATION. I am giving the best reading I could make on these. Some of the names were hard to decipher (?). Spr = spinster/Question marks are mine. ARMSTRONG, William of Portarlington, Queens Co. Esq., & Charlotte CHAMPAGNE of Portarlington. 30 Jul 1789 BUTTERFIELD (?), Elisha of Rossanailis Queens Co., far(mer?) & Mary MABRAY of Clonenagh _ Co. Spr., 19 Nov 1715 BALDROM, Joseph of Maryboro, Queens Co., Pawar (?) & Charity BARSLEY of Ballyboy Kings Co., Spr., 20 Jan 1715 BUL_OD, Lous (?) of Lee? Queens Co., mer(chant ?) & Catherine BEAUCOURT of St. Michan, Dub. Spr. 30 Jun 1718 BUSHELL, Wm. of Rosannallis, Queens Co., forgeman, & Ellenor MEBRAY of Clonenough _ Co., Spr., 8 Oct 1719 *BRONY? (BURY?), Michael of Lea Queens Co farmer & Dorothea KELLY of __ Dublin, Spr. 10 May 1727 BLAND, William of ___roan Queens Co., Esq. & Letitia DAVYS of St. Catherine Dublin, Spr., 28 Nov 1732 BALDROM, Wm. of Rosanallis Queens Co., Gent., & ___isanna GILBURNE (?) of Anatrum (?) ___ Co., Spr., 15 Dec 1735 BIDDULPH, Nichs. of Birr? Kings Co., Esq. & Patience COLLY of Stradbally Queens Co., Spr., 24 Apr 1736 BEAUCHANT, Saml. of Lea Queens Co., mercht. & Mary Anne DE LEVENGE of St. Peter? Dublin, Spr., 20 Jan 1741 * Any thoughts on this name? more to come. Regards, Christina www.rootsweb.com/~irllex

    01/22/2003 12:38:36
    1. [LAOIS] 1765 Placenames, Rosenallis Parish.
    2. Christine Gorman
    3. I sought the location of GLANKEEN in Laois County, and it wasn't until I saw the FHC film 926127, diocese of Kildare and Leighlin, Parish of Rosenallis, that I found it. Others might be interested in these old places, from the film for the years 1765- 1782.. I don't have this film. ( A bracket and a question mark indicates that the photocopy of the original is hard to read....) The spelling is as it appears in the parish records... Agha, Afoley (?) Barrowdoes (? Barradoes), Brogerla, Brakough, Brookes Mill, Ballynaglass, Boyle, Ballynalug, Ballykineen, Ballyupahan, Birch-wood Coolnaginena (?), Corbally, Crabtree, Coolough, Coolabohalen, Clarahill, Clonaslee, Colin, Coolnamony, Camira, Clonduff, Clonough, (Clunough), Capard, Conoughbeg (Cunoughbeg), Castleduff or Cashelduff, Clunaslee, Clonaheen or Clonakeen, Capnapimin (or Cassnassimin?) Cluncannon, Capillone, Capurstine, Cloncamon. Derry, Derelamogue (and Derrylamogue), Drumnabehy and Drumndabeha, Derishiel, Derentry, Dromin, Dromore, Deriski (?) Garriheder, Gurteen,Glebe, Glanbarrow, Gorrough, Garoon, Glankeen, Jra (?) Kilmanmon, Knockanowle (?) Lahode, Langfort, Laragan, Lahoil, Lisnarode, Lakin (also, Lackin) Moloughanera (?), Meelick, also Milick, and M. Melick Nut-grove Rery, Ren (?) Racoffy, Rosinallis, Rerychone (?) Skerry, Sraduff Sraley, Skaroon, Saghool (?) Tenehinche.

    01/22/2003 05:06:38
    1. [LAOIS] VASS - Stradbally
    2. Rick and Lorraine
    3. Hello List I am looking for help with Rick's family. His gr.gr.grandfather, Henry Porter VASS was born in Stradbally c1814 according to his death certificate. The same document records his parents as Michael Walter VASS, said to be a farmer, and Jane VASS (nee PORTER). The index to Griffith's Valuation lists a Michael VASS in Laois, Parish: Stradbally; Location: Newtown. So, this looks good. Where do I go from here? Might someone have access to Griffith's and be able to give me the entry for Michael VASS please? Would there be church records - Michael and Jane's marriage? Henry's and other siblings' baptisms? Are these records available for "look-ups"? The family was Protestant and out here followed the Church of England so I imagine they were Church of Ireland. There is also a family story that they were of Huguenot origin. Henry joined the RIC and served in Co. Longford. After he retired he and his family emigrated to Melbourne, Victoria. TIA Lorraine Vass Wyrallah, Northern NSW

    01/20/2003 10:42:09
    1. [LAOIS] Ireland's largest News online archive
    2. Michael Brennan
    3. Welcome to Ireland's largest News online archive http://archives.tcm.ie/index.asp The following newspapers are available at this time with dates ranging from 1997 to 2001: Irish Examiner TCM Breaking News Newry Democrat Down Democrat Western People Carlow Nationalist Kildare Nationalist Laois Nationalist The Kingdom Waterford News & Star Sligo Weekender Sunday Business Post Family Notices Regards Michael Brennan in Kent, England. If you require further info on Research in Ireland why not visit one of the web sites listed below. Brennan Home Page & Co Laois: http://www.brennanfamilyhistory.com Award Winning CARLOW IGP: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/ New Home Page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mjbrennan Norton AntiVirus 2002 is Active

    01/18/2003 05:12:50
    1. Re: [LAOIS] Laois Roll Call - Richard Lord/Alicia Pratt
    2. Greg Gardiner
    3. Catherine, I am not familiar with the name SUSANNAH LORD, but given the geographic proximity to my ancestors, I think it is possible we are related. RICHARD LORD had several brothers living in Laois County. I am certain JAMES LORD, WILLIAM LORD and THOMAS LORD (named after Richard's father), were his brothers but to confuse matters he also had nephews with the same names. There may have been other brothers as well. Should any of these names appear on the birth certificate for SUSANNAH LORD, it would seem likely that we are related. (RICHARD appeared to be a younger son of THOMAS LORD making me believe that Susannah could be his niece.) Please let me know if you see any relationship in the above. Regards, Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Sankey" <c.m.sankey@worldnet.att.net> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [LAOIS] Laois Roll Call - Richard Lord/Alicia Pratt > I have an 1840 marraige certificate of my Great Great grandmother Susannah > Lord when she married Oliver Strong in Rose Nollis, Queen's co. Ireland. > She is from Rose Nallis, and Oliver was from Mt. Mellick. we may be > related. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Gardiner" <gardiner@log.on.ca> > To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:32 AM > Subject: Re: [LAOIS] Laois Roll Call - Richard Lord/Alicia Pratt > > > > I am looking for information concerning my Great-grandparents Richard Lord > > and Alicia Pratt married in 1861 in Aghaboe, Queens Co. Richards father > was > > Thomas Lord (believed to be English) and Alicia's father was Thomas Pratt. > > Richard served in the 82nd Regiment of Foot in the Crimea and in Lucknow. > > > > Children born to Richard and Alicia Lord: > > Richard Lord b. 1867 - Mountrath, Queens Co > > Margaret Lord b. 1869 - Mountrath, Queens Co. (m. James Anderson) > > Thomas Lord b. > > John (Jack) Lord b. > > James b. 1874 - Mountrath, Queens (Married Elizabeth Campbell) - my > > grandparents > > Alicia b. 1871 - Mountrath, Queens (married Murphy) > > > > Richard and Alicia's children lived in Ballyfin and Richard died there - > > date unknown. I have been unsuccessful in locating Richard's military > > records and also do not know the origins of his father Thomas. I would be > > interested in sharing information about the Lord family. > > > > Linda Gardiner > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > > To contact the listowner: > > Ninah@carolina.rr.com > > > > > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > To contact the listowner: > Ninah@carolina.rr.com

    01/18/2003 12:47:10
    1. Re: [LAOIS] Roll Call - DOWLING, DEVINE/DEEVY.
    2. Leo McKEEFRY
    3. Evening Pamela, Saw your message and not wishing to confuse the issue but my Wife's family DEVOY come from Stradbally in Co. Laois and the family there is known as DEEVY and we have several instances of official certificates for DEVOY having the name DEEVY on them. Most local people in Laois know that the name they use is incorrect and what the correct name is. I would suspect that this is also the case with your DEVINE being called DEEVY. With the local dialect there is not a huge difference between the names DEVINE and DEVOY. I have also come across the name DEEVY spelt as DEEVEY,cheers Leo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dowling" <iregenie@gmx.net> To: <IRL-LAOIS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:19 PM Subject: [LAOIS] Roll Call - DOWLING, DEVINE/DEEVY. > Hi, > > My Laois interests are DOWLING and DEEVY/DEVINE in Maryborough (Portlaoise). > > An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ. > > > ==== IRL-LAOIS Mailing List ==== > An Irishman has an abiding sense of tragedy which sustains him through temporary periods of joy. > >

    01/17/2003 03:08:55
    1. [LAOIS] Roll Call - DOWLING, DEVINE/DEEVY.
    2. Pamela Dowling
    3. Hi, My Laois interests are DOWLING and DEEVY/DEVINE in Maryborough (Portlaoise). Joseph DOWLING b. _____ d. bef 17 Apr 1883 m. Elizabeth DEEVY/DEVINE Elizabeth's name is given as DEEVY on Mathew's birth certificate and DEVINE on Joseph's death certificate in Australia. Does anyone know if these surnames are interchangeable in Ireland? Don't have places for these events, or any more details than stated above. Their children were: Joseph DOWLING b. abt 1854 Maryborough, LEX, IRL Margaret DOWLING b. 1864 Maryborough, LEX, IRL Daniel DOWLING b. abt 1868 IRL Mary DOWLING b. 1871 Maryborough, LEX, IRL Mathew DOWLING b. 1873 Maryboro, LEX, IRL Joseph (the son) married Annie McDERMOTT in Dublin in 1883 (at which time both their fathers were dead) and they, along with his brothers Daniel and Mathew, emigrated to Australia in 1884. I have found what may be Joseph in Main St, Maryborough in Griffiths Valuations (abt 1850) and that was their address in 1873 when Mathew was born. I'm not sure how I would know if this was "my" Joseph or another Joseph in Griffiths. Hoping for some connections or ideas. Regards Pamela An Aussie transplanted to Rotorua, NZ.

    01/17/2003 05:19:20
    1. [LAOIS] Abbeyleix: Dowling (Doolin); Lawlor ; O'Connor
    2. P. Z. Ford
    3. I cannot help but think that this is the family that my Catherine Mulhall married into; her son was a "Father Dooling" supposedly of the Chicago diocese in the early 1880's. Her sister or half sister Ann Mulhall / Munhall married a Lawlor and they settled in the area of Pittsburgh, PA, in Braddock, Pennsylvania. My gg grandmother, their sister Bridget, married Michael Conner / O'Connor of Abbeyleix and then most likely of Birmingham, England, in Feb.1854 in Cambridge, Massachusetts, then lived in Illinois briefly, then in Minnesota. Penny Ford ggrandaughter of Frances Bridget O'Connor Triggs of Minnesota Roll Call Update: G-grandmother Catherine Dowling (sister of Tom Dowling, aunt of Mary Dowling Clooney ) m Denis Bergin c. 184?. Had 4 children: Denis, Katherine, Ellen & Mary. G'mother Mary Bergin (m Michael Carey, Waterbury, CT, 1899) b in Ballycuddahy, Abbeyleix, March 8, 1967 and d in Waterbury, CT, 1929. Mary's brother Denis interred in Aghaboe Cemetery in 1936. Marg

    01/17/2003 12:37:12
    1. [LAOIS] Re: IRL-LAOIS-D Digest V03 #15
    2. Pete, I am glad to hear that we were not the only ones in this position. Bill & Rønæ Pursey Email bill.pursey@telstra.com Queensland, Australia. Email protection by Norton's 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: IRL-LAOIS-D-request@rootsweb.com To: IRL-LAOIS-D@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:00 PM Subject: IRL-LAOIS-D Digest V03 #15

    01/16/2003 04:30:35
    1. [LAOIS] Roll Call: Dowling (Doolin)/Bergin
    2. Roll Call Update: G-grandmother Catherine Dowling (sister of Tom Dowling, aunt of Mary Dowling Clooney ) m Denis Bergin c. 184?. Had 4 children: Denis, Katherine, Ellen & Mary. G'mother Mary Bergin (m Michael Carey, Waterbury, CT, 1899) b in Ballycuddahy, Abbeyleix, March 8, 1967 and d in Waterbury, CT, 1929. Mary's brother Denis interred in Aghaboe Cemetery in 1936. Marg

    01/16/2003 08:02:27
    1. [LAOIS] Reposting Interests_McAVOY Family
    2. Hi List My present "brick-wall" is tracing my gg-grandfather back to Ireland.(not an uncommon problem) details:- Nicholas McAVOY b.1826c Ireland(possibly Cork) m. Ann MECKEN b.1828c Ireland Children-Patrick b.1850c Ireland ; Nicholas b.1859c Ireland Ellen b.1857c Egremont;Edward b.1864 Egremont John b.1866c Egremont;Mary A b.1868 Egremont Bridget b.187o Egremont Census 1871 has the last 5 children born in Liverpool.?? Family (Iron ore miners)moved from Ireland to Egremont, Cumberland, England, then to Gateshead(Durham) & Wallsend on Tyne(Northumberland) England Some McAVOY girls married/moved to USA and Australia. Any connections out there? E-Mail: EddyOrion@aol.com Genealogist Researching: Eddy McAvoy Surname:-McAVOY McKEEN, WATSON. WALTON 10 Barbourne Close COCKBURN, DRUMMOND, Hillfield Cork, Lanarkshire, SOLIHULL.,West Midlands Cumberland, Northumberland & Durham B91 3TL

    01/16/2003 03:13:18
    1. [LAOIS] CORCORAN/PURCELL
    2. My gmother is Kate PURCELL from Durrow. I have a copy of her baptism certificate and have verification of her brother's birth info from the British Isles Vital Records Index. I feel satisfied with this information. My brick wall is gfather William Peter CORCORAN whom my mother said was either from Tipperary or "Ballinslee." I have received help from several sources that there is a Ballinalee in CO Longford and also one near Durrow. What I am interested in finding is where Wm. Peter is from as I have had no luck in finding him arriving in the USA. Also have a suspicious naturalization cert. that doesn't make sense time-wise. What sources are there for researching CORCORAN in the Laois/Tipperary area? Thanks, Charlie, Searching KAVANAGH, CORCORAN, PURCELL, Ireland, Newfoundland see my web @ http://members.cox.net/ccavan1900

    01/16/2003 02:38:13