According to the General Alphabetical Index to the Townlands and Towns, etc. [based on the 1851 census], Garranbaun is in the barony of Upperwoods, not Tinnahinch . However, when I actually look at Griffith's, it appears in the barony of Tinnahinch! The fact that the 1851 census and Griffith's classify it in two different baronies leads me to believe there may have been some confusion about where to include it. That would argue for looking for it in both baronies, in the civil parish of Offerlane in either case. [Note: my map shows that the barony boundary does not split Offerlane, so its being in two different baronies is somewhat puzzling, but there could be subtleties to the situation that are not reflected in the maps, which are not very exact and are static in time.] Before you check Offerlane, however, have you looked at all possible films on which parts of Tinnahinch appear? These records can be somewhat fragmented, so you might need to consult several films. You also might need to look through the entire film to make sure another part of Tinnahinch doesn't appear again at a different place on the film. As I said, these records are fragmented. If you have done all that and still have not found it, I would try Upperwoods (which is on the same film in some cases) and do the same thing (checking the entire film on all films). These appear to be the relevant films: House books, v. 2921(continued from Thomastown) v. 2922; v. 2923 - v. 2931, County Leitrim, Baronies of Carrigallen, Dromahaire, Leitrim, Roselogher and Mohill; v. 2932 - v. 2952 (to p. 70), Queen's County, Baronies of Cullenagh, Upperwoods, Tinnahinch and Clandonagh, Towns of Durrow, Graigue and Maryborough FHL BRITISH Film 2355799 House books, v. 2952 (from p. 70) - v. 2968, Queen's County, Baronies of Maryborough, Tinnahinch, Portnahinch and Clandonagh FHL BRITISH Film 2355817 Field books, Queen's County, Barony of Portnahinch -- Lea; Barony of Slievemargy -- Cloydagh, Killabban, Killeshin, Rathaspick, Shrule, Sleaty; Barony of Stradbally -- Ballyadams, Curraclone, Dysartenos, Fossy or Timahoe, Kilteale, Moyanna, Stradbally, Timogue, Tullomoy; Barony of Tinnahinch -- Castlebrack, Kilmanman, Rearymore, Rosenallis; Barony of Upperwoods -- Offerlane FHL BRITISH Film 2357656 Field books, Queen's County, Barony of Upperwoods -- Offerlane; County Roscommon, Barony of Athlone -- Cam, Drum, Dysart, Fuerty, Killinvoy, Kilmeane, Kiltoom, Rahara, St. John's, St. Peter's, Taghboy, Taghmaconnell, Tisrara; Barony of Ballintober North -- Kilglass FHL BRITISH Film 2357657 Field books, Queen's County, Barony of Ballyadams -- various parishes; Barony of Clandonagh -- various parishes; Barony of Clarmallagh -- various parishes; Barony of Cullenagh -- various parishes; Barony of Maryboro East -- various parishes; Barony of Portnahinch -- various parishes; Barony of Slievemargy -- various parishes; Barony of Stradbally -- various parishes; Barony of Tinnahinch -- various parishes; Barony of Upper Woods -- various parishes VAULT BRITISH Film 1408709 Items 4 - 13 Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon Veronica Malmberg wrote: > Would one expect to find a House and Field Book for each townland in existence in the mid 1800s? I was hoping to find one for Garranbaun which is in Laois but near Roscrea near the Tipperary border. I rented LDS film 2355799 which contained the Barony of Tinnihinch . For Tinnihinch the only town was Clonaslee. I didn't see any other film in the library catalogue that might have been more appropriate. Perhaps the LDS have not filmed all of the books. Can someone shed more light on the House Books. I may just be confused. Thanks. > Veronica

Where in Canada did this Cavanagh family settle? Do you know if James had any sisters? Am researching a Brigid Kavanagh who married a Thomas Large around 1820. She left for Canada after Thomas' death. There is a long family story that I won't repeat here, but she might have been from Laois and there are British army connections. Would like to hear more about this James. Deborah **************** DEBORAH LARGE FOX www.deborahlarge.com member, Genealogical Speakers Guild http://www.genealogicalspeakersguild.org/member_details.php?member=FoxD

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rm_anc Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2666.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you done any research on the Petworth Emigration 1832 - 1837///// Colborne immigration to Upper Canada in the 1831 -1832 period. He had dealing with Robinson . I found this via a Google and actually do not know anything about settlements in Upper Canada other than what I was taught in school. Assisting Emigration to Upper Canada, The Petworth Project 1832 - 1837 http://tinyurl.com/bj8dmr Google Search: http://tinyurl.com/b576w7 Back to my search in Ireland Bob Cdn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Would one expect to find a House and Field Book for each townland in existence in the mid 1800s? I was hoping to find one for Garranbaun which is in Laois but near Roscrea near the Tipperary border. I rented LDS film 2355799 which contained the Barony of Tinnihinch . For Tinnihinch the only town was Clonaslee. I didn't see any other film in the library catalogue that might have been more appropriate. Perhaps the LDS have not filmed all of the books. Can someone shed more light on the House Books. I may just be confused. Thanks. Veronica

Shaun Have you checked the Arles (Killabban) records at: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/Records_Index.htm There are lots of Lawler's (Lalor, Lawlor,) listed in these records. Kind Regards Michael Brennan Carlow Website: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlcar2/ or http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/index.htm My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 8:00 AM Subject: IRL-LAOIS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 17 > > > ========IRL-LAOIS Mailing List======== > Leix/Laois websites: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Leix/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/index.htm > Add your Leix/Laois surname to the Surname Registry. > > Today's Topics: > > 1. LAWLERS IN LAOIS ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:45:16 -0000 > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: [LAOIS] LAWLERS IN LAOIS > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: JOHNLAWLOR20 > Surnames: LAWLER > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2665/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I have various information from Griffith's Valuation but I am struggling > to make any use of it or go any further. > PETER & MICHAEL LAWLER - Kilpurcel in Donaghmore Parish > HUGH & WILLIAM - Cullenagh in Killabban Parish. > HUGH & WILLIAM - Ballybeg in Tankardstown. > MICHAEL LAWLER - Ballinree in Tankardstown. > I have traced a g.g.g.granfather Peter lawler from Laois in uk 1851 census > in Liverpool and am able to trace one of his sons Hugh & family to > Yorkshire upto present time. > Can anyone offer suggestions as to how I might be able to use the GV > infomation to gain further details? > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > There are links to the areas above,my father went from Uk c1940 to work at > Flemings clay works in Swan and I was born there in 1946.Now living in W. > Yorkshire. > I would be very grateful for any help no matter how tenuous it might > seem.Thankyou, > Shaun. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-LAOIS list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the IRL-LAOIS mailing list, send an email to > [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-LAOIS Digest, Vol 4, Issue 17 > **************************************** > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Gwilanne Surnames: Cavanagh, Kavanagh, Cavanaugh Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2666/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for marriage info for a Cavanagh family that lived in Maryborough and immigrated to Canada 1832. I have a family letter that lists Parents and 5 children that immigrated to Canada in 1832 with the help of Peter Robinson. Peter Robinson has 2 documented settlements in 1823 & 1825 but not 1832. Family is Father I believe James Cavanagh B: Abt 1800 was a soldier for the English Army, his commander was Peter Robinson Children: John B: abt 1825 Thomas B: abt 1827 Patrick B: Feb 2 1829 Ann b: 1831 Maria B: 1836 in Canada James is wife might have been Catherine Kenny or Mary DeLury(sp?). I am trying to find a marriage record and/or birth records to prove/disprove that Catherine Kenny was indeed James' wife and mother of John, Thomas, Patrick and Ann. I am located in Canada so I don't have access to Irish records. Any help would be greatly appreciated Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JOHNLAWLOR20 Surnames: LAWLER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2665/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have various information from Griffith's Valuation but I am struggling to make any use of it or go any further. PETER & MICHAEL LAWLER - Kilpurcel in Donaghmore Parish HUGH & WILLIAM - Cullenagh in Killabban Parish. HUGH & WILLIAM - Ballybeg in Tankardstown. MICHAEL LAWLER - Ballinree in Tankardstown. I have traced a g.g.g.granfather Peter lawler from Laois in uk 1851 census in Liverpool and am able to trace one of his sons Hugh & family to Yorkshire upto present time. Can anyone offer suggestions as to how I might be able to use the GV infomation to gain further details? Any suggestions would be appreciated. There are links to the areas above,my father went from Uk c1940 to work at Flemings clay works in Swan and I was born there in 1946.Now living in W. Yorkshire. I would be very grateful for any help no matter how tenuous it might seem.Thankyou, Shaun. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Margaret I have never come across that name, but if you go to www.heritagehousemuseum.com that's Abbeyleix Heritage center and they may have information about that family. Regards, Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Spearin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:47 PM Subject: [LAOIS] Fw: Maschmann family in Abbeyleix 1928 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Margaret Spearin > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:23 PM > Subject: Maschmann family in Abbeyleix 1928 > > > Hi > I am new to Laois list and am looking for help in finding Maschmanns who > lived there in 1928 . Paul Maschmann and his wife Catherine nee O'Reilly > had 1 son Paul who was born in Abbeyleix in 1928. Catherine was married to > Paul senior who was German in Limerick in 1927 and the returned to > Germany in the early 1930's.Any help about them when they lived in > Abbeyleix would be most welcome > Thank you > > Margaret > ========IRL-LAOIS Mailing List======== > Leix/Laois websites: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Leix/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/index.htm > Add your Leix/Laois surname to the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

----- Original Message ----- From: Margaret Spearin To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: Maschmann family in Abbeyleix 1928 Hi I am new to Laois list and am looking for help in finding Maschmanns who lived there in 1928 . Paul Maschmann and his wife Catherine nee O'Reilly had 1 son Paul who was born in Abbeyleix in 1928. Catherine was married to Paul senior who was German in Limerick in 1927 and the returned to Germany in the early 1930's.Any help about them when they lived in Abbeyleix would be most welcome Thank you Margaret

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: eaglebald1 Surnames: Murphy Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2664.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Stephen, Contact me at www.genealogylaois.com (thru the contact section) and I will give you a name and phone number to contact for Murphy's from Pallas. Jack Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Yes, I wondered about that myself so I googled "Sampson's Court" Queens. One of the 3 listings was for Dr. Jane Lyon's Laois site (http://www.laoisgenealogy.com/rc/bnakillb1830.htm) so I figured the obit probably did refer to Sampson's Court, Queens Co., Ireland. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Haggerty" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [LAOIS] Kenny, Sampson's Court > There were or are Queens counties in the USA--there's one in New York > state, > perhaps others as well. See: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queens > My guess would be that a notice in a Philadelphia paper would probably be > referring to the NY county. There are some in Canada as well. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lormo5" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 7:15 PM > Subject: [LAOIS] Kenny, Sampson's Court > > >> This newspaper obit was posted on another list. Thought it might be of >> interest to someone here. >> >> McCarthy- at her residence on the 14th inst at No 95 Lexingotn street, >> Baltimore Md. Mary E wife of J.J. McCarty, and only daughter of the Late >> M. >> and C. Kenny of Wilmington Del, formerly of Sampson's Court, Queens >> county. >> Philadelphia Inquirer, March 18, 1862 > > ========IRL-LAOIS Mailing List======== > Leix/Laois websites: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Leix/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/index.htm > Add your Leix/Laois surname to the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

More additions have been added to these records: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/Baptisms_Index.htm Kind Regards Michael Brennan Carlow IGP: http://www.igp-web.com/carlow/index.htm My Laois Page: http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mjbrennan/index.htm

This newspaper obit was posted on another list. Thought it might be of interest to someone here. McCarthy- at her residence on the 14th inst at No 95 Lexingotn street, Baltimore Md. Mary E wife of J.J. McCarty, and only daughter of the Late M. and C. Kenny of Wilmington Del, formerly of Sampson's Court, Queens county. Philadelphia Inquirer, March 18, 1862

There were or are Queens counties in the USA--there's one in New York state, perhaps others as well. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queens My guess would be that a notice in a Philadelphia paper would probably be referring to the NY county. There are some in Canada as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "lormo5" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 7:15 PM Subject: [LAOIS] Kenny, Sampson's Court > This newspaper obit was posted on another list. Thought it might be of > interest to someone here. > > McCarthy- at her residence on the 14th inst at No 95 Lexingotn street, > Baltimore Md. Mary E wife of J.J. McCarty, and only daughter of the Late > M. > and C. Kenny of Wilmington Del, formerly of Sampson's Court, Queens > county. > Philadelphia Inquirer, March 18, 1862

Thank you for the help and sorry for stepping out of line. Although I read all postings I have not responded to many Frank Egan Sharon Haggerty wrote: > If you wish to send someone an attachment, you must send it to his personal > email address--Mr. Carter's address was shown in his original message. > Rootsweb does not allow attachments. > > Sharon Haggerty > Laois list administrator > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Egan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 2:46 PM > Subject: Re: [LAOIS] Place name in Queens > > > >> attached are two maps of Rathdowney >> >> Frank Egan >> >> George Carter wrote: >> >>> I`ve come across a place name mentioned in the 1911 census of England >>> that I can`t find. This lady`s sister says she was born in Rathdowney, so >>> this may be close by but I can`t find it. >>> It looks like DURSEN or DARSEN, definately in Queens, Does anyone have >>> any ideas. >>> >>> George Carter in Whaley Bridge >>> >>> >>> >>> ========IRL-LAOIS Mailing List======== >>> Leix/Laois websites: >>> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Leix/ >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/index.htm >>> Add your Leix/Laois surname to the Surname Registry. >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >> ========IRL-LAOIS Mailing List======== >> Leix/Laois websites: >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Leix/ >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/index.htm >> Add your Leix/Laois surname to the Surname Registry. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ========IRL-LAOIS Mailing List======== > Leix/Laois websites: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Leix/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/index.htm > Add your Leix/Laois surname to the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I`m told the place name is probably Dureen which is in Durrow about 7 miles east of Rathdowney. I`ve found Durrow on a map but havn`t been able to find Dureen so Dureen presumably is a very small place. Thanks for everyones help with this. I`m hoping to pinpoint the place before we next visit Ireland. George Carter in Whaley Bridge.

George, if you go to Google maps http://maps.google.com/ and type newtown, laois in the search box and click on the "Search Maps" button, you will get a map with Newtown's location denoted by a small balloon. Newtown is on the N8. If you follow the N8 to the northeast in the direction of the town of Durrow, you will see "Derreen and Carrowreagh" less than 1/2 mile in that direction from Newtown. You can zoom in and out with the + and - controls to get a better idea of exactly where this is. You can also switch your view to "Satellite" by selecting that in the upper right hand corner of the map and see a satellite image with fields, etc. Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon, USA George Carter wrote: > I`m told the place name is probably Dureen which is in Durrow about 7 miles east of Rathdowney. I`ve found Durrow on a map but havn`t been able to find Dureen so Dureen presumably is a very small place. > > Thanks for everyones help with this. I`m hoping to pinpoint the place before we next visit Ireland. > > George Carter in Whaley Bridge.

Not a problem. I didn't mean to suggest you were stepping out of line--just wanted to clarify why the attachment didn't come through to the list. ----- Original Message ----- > Thank you for the help and sorry for stepping out of line. Although I > read all postings I have not responded to many >

Hi Seamus, I can`t post attachments to Rootsweb lists and the 1911 census isn`t on Ancestry at the moment. I can post the page to anyone who thinks they may be able to identify it. Thanks for the interest. All the Best. George ________________________________ From: Seamus Moore <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, 18 January, 2009 9:03:57 AM Subject: [LAOIS] Place name in Queenscounty Hi George, If you could attach an image of the placename from the census someone with local knowledge may be able to recognise it.  Another suggestion would be to give details of the person in the census so that someone with access to Ancestry could look at it. Best regards, Seamus. Seamus Moore, Dublin, Ireland. Researching: Moore, Anderson, Myles, Tobin, Norris, Goldrick, Tynan. [email protected] ========IRL-LAOIS Mailing List======== Leix/Laois websites: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Leix/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/index.htm Add your Leix/Laois surname to the Surname Registry. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you wish to send someone an attachment, you must send it to his personal email address--Mr. Carter's address was shown in his original message. Rootsweb does not allow attachments. Sharon Haggerty Laois list administrator ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Egan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [LAOIS] Place name in Queens > attached are two maps of Rathdowney > > Frank Egan > > George Carter wrote: >> I`ve come across a place name mentioned in the 1911 census of England >> that I can`t find. This lady`s sister says she was born in Rathdowney, so >> this may be close by but I can`t find it. >> It looks like DURSEN or DARSEN, definately in Queens, Does anyone have >> any ideas. >> >> George Carter in Whaley Bridge >> >> >> >> ========IRL-LAOIS Mailing List======== >> Leix/Laois websites: >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Leix/ >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/index.htm >> Add your Leix/Laois surname to the Surname Registry. >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > ========IRL-LAOIS Mailing List======== > Leix/Laois websites: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Leix/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllex/index.htm > Add your Leix/Laois surname to the Surname Registry. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message