This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Eilis_OHara Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2658.3.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Deborah, It would probably be best to contact the source which said the burial was in the family vault in Mountrath since you went to Mountrath and didn't find the family vault. Your source appears to be this online family tree which seems to be an amalgamation of information from various online sources into the family tree database: http://www.antonymaitland.com/Edward Cornelius descendants.htm Here's the contact information for the gentleman who has this online from Wales, it would probably be best to contact him directly to find out what the source of the Mountrath vault information is since no vault apparently exists in Mountrath at least: http://www.antonymaitland.com/ Best wishes with your research. Regards. Eilis O'Hara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deborahrea1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2658.3.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Went to RCB and didn't find any records pertaining to Henry C. Whomever did the original research on the family said that he/members of the family were buried in Mountrath - assumedly the Church of Ireland church - which is where I went. I walked all around the church yard and found nothing. I knocked on what I thought was the vicarage but was no answer. I then wrote to the vicar (Stella Jones, Mountrath) but haven't heard anything from her and that was in January/early Feb. We were also told that he was buried at old Anatrim church (which I also went to) but could only find info on Alexander Cornelius, his wife and family. So, I think I have to write to Rev. Stella Jones again. Regards Deborah Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Eilis_OHara Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2658.3.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Deborah, You went to the RCB and ? Found records, no records there? Did whoever lead you to believe the Cornelius family were buried in the family vault say where that vault was? When you're led to believe some information about an ancestor it's always helpful to query the source about where their information originated. That can save time and effort searching locations that may not be relevant to your family research. Did you get a copy of Henry's death cert? If not you can order it from the Ireland General Register Office http://www.groireland.ie and click on "apply for cert". Best wishes in your research. Regards. Eilis O'Hara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deborahrea1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2658.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't think I posted prior to. We were led to believe that the Corneius family were buried in the family vault - perbaps tbat is not accurate.... Went to the RCB already. Deborah Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Eilis_OHara Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2658.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Deborah, Have you posted the same message before December 08 or other messages on the County Laois message board? That's unfortunate you didn't find the Cornelius family vault in Mountrath. What led you to believe it was in Mountrath? Have you gotten a copy of his death certificate? The Church records may be archived in Dublin and you can contact the RCB library to find out if they are, here's the link with contact information: http://www.ireland.anglican.org/index.php?do=information&id=63 Regards. Eilis O'Hara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

-------- Original Message -------- > From: "Jane Lyons" <[email protected]> > Sent: 12 May 2009 10:41 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Ballyragget RC parish, Co.'s Kilkenny & Laois Baptismal Index 1856-57 > > Ballyragget town is just a few miles from the Laois border and the Roman Catholic parish of Ballyragget takes in townlands in County Laois. > > I have now added an index to the baptisms for 1856-57 carried out in the RC parish of Ballyragget to my Laois Genealogy web site. These are exactly the same as the index which is on my Kilkenny Genealogy website. So if you have already seen that one then don't bother with this new URL > > http://www.laoisgenealogy.com/rc/braggetb56.htm > > Jane

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deborahrea1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2658.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Eilis, Have we spoken before? Can't place your name just yet. I did go to Mountrath but didn't have any luck finding the Cornelius vault. I wrote to the vicar (Stella ?) but never received a reply. So, I guess I will have to write again. Regards Deborah Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: martinbriscoe57 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2681.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a copy of the Caandian marriage record, no mention of religion. It's written in French and the names are rather mangled! Might try the vicar as you suggest. I had someone do research in Kew for me already. I think regimental records are my best chance of something on the death. Martin Briscoe Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Sharon, I sent two messages to the Laois list this morning, both returned. Details from one of the 'undeliverable' returns posted below Is it cos of some glitch in the system? Thanks Jane Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mailgate1.vhostdns.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <[email protected]>: Connected to 66.43.27.44 but connection died. (#4.4.2) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: (qmail 3004 invoked by uid 507); 12 May 2009 04:38:04 -0500 Received: from ucv2.vhostdns.com (74.86.6.19) by mailgate1.vhostdns.com with SMTP; 12 May 2009 04:38:04 -0500 Received: from [78.16.186.222] by UCV2.vhostdns.com via HTTP; Tue, 12 May 2009 04:37:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 04:37:17 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Mountmellick RC parish, Marriage index 1814-1819 From: "Jane Lyons" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: <[email protected]> CC: Message-ID: <[email protected]>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Eilis_OHara Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2681.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Martin, It wouldn't hurt to ring the Vicar in Mountmellick or drop a note about the burial. All British military information in Ireland went to the British Home Office when Ireland became the Free State in 1922 and then the British Home Office transferred it to Kew. It's very difficult in Ireland to find any information about the British military when they were here and so there wouldn't be any list of military dead locally. There's an extremely high likelihood he died of disease as a result of the Famine. During the Famine years people were immediately buried to try to stem the spread of diseases. There are numerous Famine graves in Ivy Chapel about 1 1/2 miles outside Mountmellick but those were I believe primarily local people who died either from starvation or disease. It's very unlikely the British military would have been buried there in mass graves with the locals. If you know where he married in Canada, eg. the name of the church, you could contact them to see if there's any mention in the church marriage records of his religious denomination or baptismal information. It is unlikely he was Catholic but the marriage record may confirm for you what his religious denomination actually was and where he was baptised in England. Regards. Eilis O'Hara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: martinbriscoe57 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2681.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks, I asked just to see if anyone knew if there was a group of military burials from that period in the area and if someone could have a check though I was not optimistic. The military record just has "died" with nothing else, several others are the same. It is quite possible that they were dying of disease, I would like to have a look in the regimental records in Durham to see if there anything there. I just don't think that he would have originally been RC because the area where he came from and suspect the marriage and baptisms were RC because of his wife's religion but it did not last in the family. Probably never know. Thanks, must get South to do some checks! Martin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Eilis_OHara Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2681.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Martin, I'd try the Church of Ireland church -- St. Paul's -- in Mountmellick first. The Church of Ireland is the Anglican Church in Ireland and was the official or state church in Ireland until 1871. It's the COE in Ireland. Here's the link to the parish with contact information: http://www.ireland.anglican.org/index.php?do=information.dioceses&page=showparish&id=15460 It's possible there was a tombstone in 1847 that has since disintegrated -- many of them didn't survive the Irish weather. There's a very high likelihood he died as a result of the Irish Famine. The British military barracks wouldn't have been without food but they would have been exposed to the rampant diseases associated with the Famine including dysentery and typhoid. In the Nineteenth Century in Ireland after the British Government had repealed the Penal Laws in Ireland [forbidding practicing a religion other than the Church of Ireland (Anglican)] and into the Twentieth Century, members of the British Army in Ireland could indeed be Catholic. The British military recruited locally in Ireland and many thousands of Irish who were Catholic joined the British military. It was a guaranteed wage with an excellent pension. What I have found in my research is that there would be a Church of Ireland chapel in the larger barracks and those in the barracks who were Catholic would go outside the barracks to the locality to the Catholic church there. In the smaller towns and villages where there were barracks there would be a Church of Ireland church as well as a Catholic church so military personnel would worship in whatever their religious denomination was. That was both before and after 1871 which is when the Church of Ireland was no longer the official church in Ireland. Regards. Eilis O'Hara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: martinbriscoe57 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2681.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know a lot about him, I think it is very unlikely that was born a Catholic in rural Yorkshire and we think we have his Christening at a local CoE Parish Church in 1819. But his wife was Irish though they married in Canada. They married in a RC church in Quebec and their two children were Baptised in RC churches in Quebec and Chester. She was buried in the local CoE Parish Church and similarly there is nothing to suggst that child considered themselfRC later in life. I would think that the British Army would just consider any soldiers to be COE. MB Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Eilis_OHara Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2681.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Martin, Mark Hammond died before civil registration of deaths started in Ireland in 1864. What was his religious denomination? You'd need to check with the church to find out if there's a marked grave there for him. He died in 1847 called "Black 47" the worst year of the Irish Famine (1845-50). Here's some information about Mountmellick: http://www.irishtourist.com/laois/towns/mountmellick/ Regards. Eilis O'Hara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Eilis_OHara Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2658.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Deborah, Did you have any luck finding the family vault in Mountrath that you were looking for when you came to Ireland in January? Did you go to Mountrath and get photos etc.? I gather you saw the information in Griffiths Property Valuation for County Laois (then Queens County) from 1851-52 about the Henry Corneliuses there. Griffiths includes immediate lessor and occupier. The 1876 Property Owners of Ireland list shows Henry Cornelius owning 346 acres of land in Coolrain, Mountrath. Regards. Eilis O'Hara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Every county has townlands covered by some Poor Law Union that we usually associate with another county - and some people would never think of looking to the Poor Law Union records for that other county cos they don't understand the way all the divisions worked. I'm using the term Poor Law Union because this is one which most of you are familiar with, and I'm always seeing people asking if there are any records for this or that Poor Law Union (PLU). In honesty, they probably mean the workhouse when they are thinking of records, i.e. workhouse records. Well, thing is that from 1864 there are lots of Poor Law Union Workhouse records for ye, it's just a case of finding them and then knowing where to go look for them is another thing too. It's in the civil records - civil registration records cos you see every birth, marriage and death that did occur in any workhouse was lalmost definitely registered in the civil books - cos that was the law and the workhouse managers obeyed the law (for teh most part) The thing about Laois is that one of the Unions was broken up about 1887 and it was only created in 1850, so, between 1850 and 1887 you go looking for civil records for your family in one Poor Law Union and then after 1887 you have to look in another. The one 1850-1887 is Donaghmore Civil registration district and then the townlands in this one were re-assigned to the Civil Registration Districts of Roscrea and Urlingford. Anyway, I've put some tables of townland names in some of the Civil Registration Districts (aka Poor Law Unions) on the web, and I've also included the name of the District Electoral Division that they belong to. It's not that I want to confuse people more by giving them this other division name, but it's the name you need when you go to resaerch the 1901 and 1911 census. The census is in order of the Poor Law Union or Civil registration divisions and you have to look for the District Electoral Division and then that is broken up into the civil parishes and then the townlands. I've also put some explanation of the census on my site as well and some other things. To see what's there go to http://www.laoisgenealogy.com. My first run at the index to names in the RC parish registers is finished so all the surnames are up and the URL for that is below. Now, its down to adding more names Jane Roman Catholic Parish Register Name Index http://www.laoisgenealogy.com/rcnames/index.htm Laois townlands Athy civil registration District (Poor Law Union) http://www.laoisgenealogy.com/athy.htm Laois Townlands Donaghmore Civil Registration District (Poor Law Union) http://www.laoisgenealogy.com/donaghmore.htm Laois townlands Carlow Civil Registration District or Poor Law Union http://www.laoisgenealogy.com/carlow.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dunlopwill Surnames: Kealey Fahey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/1123.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Nicholas Kealey is my greatgrandfather. He raised family in South March, Ontario. He had sons William, John and Paul. I do not know Irish County of origin. What info. do you seek? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have indexed the names of all children baptised in the Roman Catholic Parish of Ballyadams, County Laois or Queen's Co. for the year 1820, and also their parents names. Townland names are given in the register and I have listed these on the page as well but not for the individual children. The index can be found at: http://www.laoisgenealogy.com/rc/badamsb1820.htm As this is new, it is not included in the big index I am currently working on, but will be in the future. Jane

Last week I began working on a new index for my website, an index to the names of people listed in the various parish registers I have transcribed to date, some of which are on-line and some of which are not yet. I began by taking all the names from each file, when I had 13000 entries for my name index I stopped even though I still had other transcriptions I had not yet included. I figured that with 13000 entries I was going to be at this new index for a while before I got it right. So, what I am bringing on-line is just a beginning and a fraction of what I actually have. I went through the file I had created and removed all very questionable names, then if I had two or more of the same name for any year for the same register, I deleted all but one of those names. I have left in all variations of a first name or a surname, soo for example when there was a Jno Phelan listed for one parish inn 1843 and a John Phelan listed for that same parish in 1843, I included both the Jno and the John even though this is the same name. If, there was a Jno Philan or a John Phelon listed for that parish I also included these variations on the surname and first name. By the time I had worked my way or almost worked my through to the M surnames, I asked people on a list to take a look at what I had put on-line and advise as to what they thought of it. I was advised that to include the event, and how many times the name occurred in a register would be a help. So, I began going back through the registers (so far only two) and include this information. So, from the P surnames forward there are notes as to whether the person was a child, parent, sponsor/witness and how many times this name occurs in this register for that year. Once I finish creating the initial pages, then I will begin to go through those registers I did not include in this index adding them and the index will gradually appear as a whole. As I go through the various transriptions it is my intention to bring more records on-line. If you are interested in checking out my new index to see for example how common or uncommon your ancestors name was, then you can find it at http://www.laoisgenealogy.com I know that all the pages I have on-line so far are linked from that page, but for some of the pages you will not yet find a link to all of the other pages. I was actually very surprised to see how few O surnames there were in what I have put together so far - maybe they were all hiding in another parish and I'll come across them yet! Jane

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DawnB226 Surnames: Flood Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2658.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Deborah, Most of the information that I have regarding Aletta Biggs and her marriages comes from Antony Maitland's site. I am not sure who the mother of Edward Flood, jr was as his father married twice. Unfortunately, When he died in Brooklyn, NY in 1891 the death certificates only asked for the Father's name and his mother's birthplace, but not her name. He had remarriage in 1868, but according to his widow's pension application, the minister did not register the marriage as required by law.(He volunteered for the Union side in the American Civil War). I have found that most of the information that Antony Maitland has on the Floods has turned out to be accurate. You can read a paper I wrote about it at: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dftdvcfv_4d29b5rfs&hl=en Near the end of the paper, I give my reasons for the link of Edward Flood, Jr. to Luke Flood and Mary Aletta Biggs. Don't expect too much from this paper, I'm an amateur, and Irish records of the time are scanty. Henry Cornelius in the Griffith's Valuation was likely the one born about 1820, as the valuation was taken in 1850. Elderfield is in the RC parish of Castletown, though both the Cornelius family and Flood Family were Protestant. I noticed on the Maitland site that Henry Cornelius was born in Anatrim and died in Castletown. When Edward Flood, Jr. eloped he gave his residence as Anatrim and his father's as Middlemount. A few weeks after his elopement, he married in the Anglican Church. That is where H. Cornelius, Cap't Royal Artillery witnessed the ceremony. If you would like I e-mail a copy to you. Regards, Dawn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.