Again, thank you Jane. I have sent the link to our Irish Meredith email list. I see you list 20 Meredith households, and I'm pretty sure some of those are not in our records--I shall be checking it out! Sharon Haggerty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Lyons" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:33 PM Subject: [LAOIS] 1901 census index finished > I've finished with what I have - for the moment. Some few things to do > yet. Maybe any of you on lists that there may be Laois people on > mightlike to pass the URL along. It gets really interesting when I see > the different numbers of the surnames and the ones that I would have > expected there to be tons of and there aren't and then looking at the way > they're distributed and knowing some families who swear they have no > relationship to one another today, but seeing that there were only a few > people of the surname in 1901 and they were all close together maybe even > in the same townland or just beside one another! > > http://www.laoisgenealogy.com/01/ind.htm > > Jane

I've finished with what I have - for the moment. Some few things to do yet. Maybe any of you on lists that there may be Laois people on mightlike to pass the URL along. It gets really interesting when I see the different numbers of the surnames and the ones that I would have expected there to be tons of and there aren't and then looking at the way they're distributed and knowing some families who swear they have no relationship to one another today, but seeing that there were only a few people of the surname in 1901 and they were all close together maybe even in the same townland or just beside one another! http://www.laoisgenealogy.com/01/ind.htm Jane

The 1901 census is indexed by civil land divisions beginning with the area that was known as the Poor Law Union and then taking each Registrars District which is further sub-divided into Electoral Divisions, Baronies, Parishes and townlands. There is no index to show us who lived where in any part of the 1901 or 1911 census (with the exception of those parts of the 1911 census which are being brought on line). Most but not all of the 1901 and 1911 censuses have been filmed and are obtainable through Family History Liraries the world over as well as here in Ireland in the National Archives or accessible through county libraries or county council offices. So, if you want to see if anyone of the surname you are interested in was still living in the townland that your family came from in 1901, you have to find out the film reference number for the District Electoral Division that the townland was in and then call up that film from whatever resource, go to the index for the townland which was written up by the enumerator, find the number of the property and then go to the form filled out by the head of household for the family on the night of the census. I have indexed the names of the Heads of Household for the 1901 census returns for county Laois or Queen's County - there are some parts of the census which are not on film and these have not been indexed yet. My index (minus the unfilmed sections) contains the names of 12,118 Heads of Household for County Laois in 1901. The population of the county in 1901 was 57,417 people - 29,694 male; 27,723 female. In the past, I have brought some of this index on-line by parish, but as I created the various parish lists, I found differences between the parishes that townlands were listed as being in back in 1851 (per Townlands directory of Ireland) and the parishes they were listed as being part of in 1901 and all in all it was very confusing and I never had time to go back checking the films and re-assignment of townlands to different areas. I also found different spellings for the parishes per the enumerator sheets, and the parish of Clonenagh & Clonagheen was listed as that in some parts and separately in others. It took me at least one year to index what I have, the spellings of names are as per the enumerator sheets. Quite often, I've found that the enumerator spelled a surname one way whilst the Head of Household spelled it another way. I have not checked all the forms filled out by the Heads of Household. So all spellings in my index are as per the enumerator sheets. I currently have surnames A-E on line and will be bringing the rest as the week goes by. Regards, Jane the 1901 Census Heads of Household by parish index can be found at: http://www.laoisgenealogy.com

Jane, what tremendous contributions you are making for us overseas folks with Laois origins. Thank you so very much! Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Lyons" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 6:53 PM Subject: [LAOIS] 1901 Census Heads of Household by parish index > The 1901 census is indexed by civil land divisions beginning with the area > that was known as the Poor Law Union and then taking each Registrars > District which is further sub-divided into Electoral Divisions, Baronies, > Parishes and townlands. There is no index to show us who lived where in > any part of the 1901 or 1911 census (with the exception of those parts of > the 1911 census which are being brought on line). > > Most but not all of the 1901 and 1911 censuses have been filmed and are > obtainable through Family History Liraries the world over as well as here > in Ireland in the National Archives or accessible through county libraries > or county council offices. So, if you want to see if anyone of the > surname you are interested in was still living in the townland that your > family came from in 1901, you have to find out the film reference number > for the District Electoral Division that the townland was in and then call > up that film from whatever resource, go to the index for the townland > which was written up by the enumerator, find the number of the property > and then go to the form filled out by the head of household for the family > on the night of the census. > > I have indexed the names of the Heads of Household for the 1901 census > returns for county Laois or Queen's County - there are some parts of the > census which are not on film and these have not been indexed yet. My > index (minus the unfilmed sections) contains the names of 12,118 Heads of > Household for County Laois in 1901. The population of the county in 1901 > was 57,417 people - 29,694 male; 27,723 female. > > In the past, I have brought some of this index on-line by parish, but as I > created the various parish lists, I found differences between the parishes > that townlands were listed as being in back in 1851 (per Townlands > directory of Ireland) and the parishes they were listed as being part of > in 1901 and all in all it was very confusing and I never had time to go > back checking the films and re-assignment of townlands to different areas. > I also found different spellings for the parishes per the enumerator > sheets, and the parish of Clonenagh & Clonagheen was listed as that in > some parts and separately in others. > > It took me at least one year to index what I have, the spellings of names > are as per the enumerator sheets. Quite often, I've found that the > enumerator spelled a surname one way whilst the Head of Household spelled > it another way. I have not checked all the forms filled out by the Heads > of Household. So all spellings in my index are as per the enumerator > sheets. > > I currently have surnames A-E on line and will be bringing the rest as the > week goes by. > > Regards, > Jane > the 1901 Census Heads of Household by parish index can be found at: > http://www.laoisgenealogy.com

Hi Sharon Thank you so much for your help. It is greatly appreciated. My family name is Chadwick and I have found a William Chadwick in Ballyfin Upper in Griffiths Valuation. He is the only Chadwick in the area and very likely the son of a William Chadwick who was already in Yorkshire by then. William the son, eventually appears in the 1871 census in Yorkshire. Also thank you for your hints on the parish registers. I will certainly widen my search. Regards, Jan Vernon Sydney, Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sharon Haggerty Sent: Sunday, 17 May 2009 12:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LAOIS] Book suggestions - Ballyfin Jan, I would suggest you simply google "Ballyfin Ireland Laois" to find information about Ballyfin. Here are a couple of sites I have found--there are scads more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballyfin http://www.slievebloom.ie/history/ballyfin_history.html http://www.irishmidlandsancestry.com/content/laois/community/ballyfin_house. htm And I would like to correct an impression I seem to have left earlier--the C of I Ballyfin register starts in 1822, not 1800. BUT, folks who attended Ballyfin church and lived in the area can often be found in the registers for Maryborough and Mountrath (Clonenagh and Clonagheen parish). At various times the Ballyfin Church has been part of one or the other of these parishes. The Maryborough register has baptisms back to 1793 (and the lovely man who entered those earliest records actually provided the mother's maiden name, providing me with the birth name of my ggg grandmother); the Mountrath register goes back to 1749. These registers are held at the RCBL, the Church of Ireland Archives and Library, in Dublin, and are available to the public. You could probably hire a researcher who would look for records for you. See: http://www.progenealogists.com/ireland/churchireland.asp You say your family moved to England in the 1860s. If so they probably are listed in the Griffiths Valuation, which was taken in 1850 in the Ballyfin/Maryborough area. You can search those records by name or place. The search page for family names is: http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php Sharon Haggerty

I was wondering if anyone is able to suggest a book I could read about Ballyfin Village and surrounding area. My family lived in Ballyfin before they moved to Yorkshire, England in the 1860s. I have found that it really helps to read a book about the area to get a feel for the life they lived and any suggestions of a suitable book would be helpful. Regards, Jan Vernon Sydney, Australia

Correction for the link re: the RCBL parish registers (the other link was only for vestry minutes--sorry for that mistake): http://www.progenealogists.com/ireland/parishregisters.asp These registers are held at the RCBL, the Church of Ireland Archives and Library, in Dublin, and are available to the public. You could probably hire a researcher who would look for records for you.

Jan, I would suggest you simply google "Ballyfin Ireland Laois" to find information about Ballyfin. Here are a couple of sites I have found--there are scads more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballyfin http://www.slievebloom.ie/history/ballyfin_history.html http://www.irishmidlandsancestry.com/content/laois/community/ballyfin_house.htm And I would like to correct an impression I seem to have left earlier--the C of I Ballyfin register starts in 1822, not 1800. BUT, folks who attended Ballyfin church and lived in the area can often be found in the registers for Maryborough and Mountrath (Clonenagh and Clonagheen parish). At various times the Ballyfin Church has been part of one or the other of these parishes. The Maryborough register has baptisms back to 1793 (and the lovely man who entered those earliest records actually provided the mother's maiden name, providing me with the birth name of my ggg grandmother); the Mountrath register goes back to 1749. These registers are held at the RCBL, the Church of Ireland Archives and Library, in Dublin, and are available to the public. You could probably hire a researcher who would look for records for you. See: http://www.progenealogists.com/ireland/churchireland.asp You say your family moved to England in the 1860s. If so they probably are listed in the Griffiths Valuation, which was taken in 1850 in the Ballyfin/Maryborough area. You can search those records by name or place. The search page for family names is: http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php Sharon Haggerty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Vernon" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:55 PM Subject: [LAOIS] Book suggestions - Ballyfin >I was wondering if anyone is able to suggest a book I could read about > Ballyfin Village and surrounding area. My family lived in Ballyfin before > they moved to Yorkshire, England in the 1860s. > > I have found that it really helps to read a book about the area to get a > feel for the life they lived and any suggestions of a suitable book would > be > helpful. > > Regards, > > Jan Vernon

I am new to this list and would really appreciate some guidance and direction with my research. I have come to a point in my research where I have found 3 brothers who all say they came from Ballyfin, County Laois. The three brothers ended up living in County Cavan, Ireland or in Yorkshire, England and were Protestants. Unfortunately, I do not know the their parents names so I can only "suspect" they are brothers at this stage. The one thing that makes me think they are brothers is that they all have named one of their sons Hutchinson Chadwick. Sharon Haggerty from this list has indicated previously that the Parish Registers are available for Ballyfin from about 1800 and that the records are accessible in Dublin. As I live in Sydney Australia is anyone able to suggest the best and most economical way for me to research these records? Also where in Dublin would the records be kept? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Jan Vernon Sydney, Australia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Eilis_OHara Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2687.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Jason, You'll need to research Thomas civil and church marriage and death records, cemetery records, tombstone, will and obituary as well as his US naturalisation records to find out where he was born in Co. Laois and his parents names. Civil registration of births didn't start in Ireland until 1864 too late for his birth record. There are no surviving census records before 1901. Church parish records for his birth location in Co. Laois would be the possible source for his baptismal record if the church parish records survive for his birth year. Many church parish records don't go back far enough for his baptismal record. You need to find out what his birthplace was in Co. Laois to then determine if the church parish records survive for his birth location. There's a list of the names of the towns and townlands in Co. Laois at the Ireland Townland Database http://www.seanruad.com and select Laois from the drop down menu. You'll need Thomas date of birth, birthpace in Co. Laois, his parents names and religious denomination. If he was Roman Catholic here's a link to the Roman Catholic parish maps in Co. Laois, click on each parish on the maps to see the dates covered in the records and where the records can be researched: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/laoisrc.htm Regards. Eilis O'Hara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Weeezer Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2687.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know of any siblings, but that doesn't mean he didn't have any. The only family I know of was a woman named Elizabeth Donahue who married a man named Kent after both she and Thomas Donahue moved to Indianapolis, IN. The two families always regarded themselves as related, but I don't know exactly how. -Jason Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Michaeldonovanathy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2687.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Thomas Did your Thomas have any brothers or sisters? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Weeezer Surnames: Donahue Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2687/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for information on Thomas Donahue, born 15 April 1839 in Queens County (Co. Laois). Emigrated to the United States around September/October 1868. Will be in Ireland this summer and looking for any help in researching this individual. Name also: Donohue, O'Donoghue, O'Donohue Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Eilis_OHara Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2681.1.1.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Martin, Here's the contact information for the Archdiocese of Quebec, there's an email for the Archives: http://www.diocesequebec.qc.ca/contact/index.htm Even though it's in French they can generally speak English. There are several online translation programs, here's one: http://translation2.paralink.com/ It would be a good idea to try the vicar. Best wishes with your research. Eilis O'Hara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Eilis_OHara Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2658.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Deborah, Do contact Anthony Maitland in Wales regarding the information he has in the online family genealogy you're using for your research. There's no point going around in circles here looking for a non existent vault. No I don't work for Laois Genealogy. Regards. Eilis O'Hara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I've indexed the names of the children and their parents who were baptised in the Roman Catholic parish of Offerlane in 1833. The index is on-line at the URL below and I'm nearly at one index for all the RC parishes which take in anywhere in Laois at this stage. I think Michael Brennan pretty much has Arles covered on his Carlow site so I;m going to skip that one. Next, I either go back through Laois or finish the same kind of thing for Kilkenny, not too sure what to do yet Jane Offerlane Baptismal Index 1833 http://www.laoisgenealogy.com/rc/offer1833.htm

I have added two more years to the Marriage index for Rathdowney, Co. Laois /Queen's Co. and also indexed the names of children baptised in Rathdowney in 1790. I haven't added the 1790 townlands yet, but in the 1840's Rathdowney parish included townlands out to Errill and over to Donaghmore Jane Rathdowney Marriage index 1840-44 (two years added, was 1840-42) http://www.laoisgenealogy.com/rc/rathdowney18442.htm Rathdowney Baptismal Index 1790 http://www.laoisgenealogy.com/rc/rathdowneyb1790.htm

-------- Original Message -------- > From: "Jane Lyons" <[email protected]> > Sent: 12 May 2009 10:37 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Mountmellick RC parish, Marriage index 1814-1819 > > I have indexed the names of the Brides and Grooms who got married in the > Roman Catholic Parish of Mountmellick for the years 1814-1819. It was not > possible to make out a lot of the entries see my note below on the > condition of pages. > > Jane > > This parish register is the first register on the microfilm. Diocese of > Kildare & Leighlin. Mountmellick. Marrs. Feb 2nd 1814-April 27th 1843 some > pages for 1836 & 1837 out of order. No placenames given. First page easy > enough to read through, 2nd & 3rd pages VERY Faded. Can't make out > anything for definite on page two, and three entries only on page 3. Next > two pages are for 1815. Similarly faded, Completely indexed what I could > read from 1814 to Nov 1819. > > > My index can be seen at: > > http://www.laoisgenealogy.com/rc/melickm1819.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tomdelaney79 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2681.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: martin i collected a number of canadian records doing my own research and they usually contained the name of the church,if so its possible to determine the religio regards tom Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: deborahrea1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.lex.general/2658.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Eilis Yes, I will do that. Thanks. Just had a thought - are all vaults outside or inside churches? By the way, who do you work for? Co. Laois genealogy??? Regards Deborah Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.