This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3229.1 Message Board Post: You could order his birth certificate. Go to the GRO website for the form. www.groireland.ie I paid by credit card most successfully. If you know the area of Kilkenny he is from, (get form birth cert.) you can then order the 1901 and 1911 census for that place from the LDS.