Pat at [email protected] writes: << the Shelleys were from Whitehall. I don't know where that is, but it is probably on a map of Ireland. Maybe? >> Pat, I think there should be something in the archives about this, as I responded to a similar question some time ago. Whitehall is also known as Paulstown, and is located right at the junction of the N 10 national road from Kilkenny City with the N 9, going from Gowran up to Carlow town. Whitehall is about 4 miles SE of Baurnafea. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts