This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3745.1.1.1 Message Board Post: There aren't any vital records in Ireland before 1864 and no surviving census records for the 1800s so you need to know his parents names and birthplace to find the church that might have his baptismal record. His and his children's US civil and church records would be the places to find his parents names and birthplace in Ireland.