This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3745.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Look for Parick's civil and church marriage and death records to find his parents names and where he was born in Ireland. Also his tombstone, cemetery record, will and US naturalisation record. He may not have been born in the same place his parents were. If you're unsure of what Michael's relationship is to Patrick, if any, then you need to research his US records also to find any connection as Patrick's father.