Kate, Thanks for all your troubles. Seems that Callan is not an option with my lot. Will have to concentrate on other areas of Kilkenny. Hopefully will hear from the Dermody "Masters" one day. I have been told they are still around and near Mullinavat & Waterford area. Regards Rick -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.16/582 - Release Date: 11/12/2006 4:32 PM