This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3736 Message Board Post: Gowran Parish Register starts in 1809. Any ideas of what parish residents of Gowran would have attended before then? Thanks,

Goodmorning from Bendigo in Victoria, Australia. I have tried once before on this List to find out something about the above name, TALLENT. My greatgrandfather JOHN ARCHDEKIN TALLENT was born in Kilkenny in 1827, I think his father's name was also the same. In 1855 he married MARY MULLALLY born CALLAN, COUNTY KILKENNY in 1831. They married in KILKENNY and then had 2 children, Johanna and Thomas, befored immigrating to MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA in 1857. I do have their history in Melbourne but have had no luck in finding anything about them in Kilkenny and thereabouts. If SKS could help me out here I would be very grateful. I realize that it is a big ask but am hoping that someone could look up some records for me. I am willing to do look-ups here in Victoria in return. Thankyou, Best wishes............Bev

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3734.3.1.2.1 Message Board Post: You've been very helpful. Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3734.3.1.2 Message Board Post: Hi Lance, You may want to check this site out. Perhaps it will lead you to the Catholic Parish you will need and you can order the microfilms to view at your local FHC. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlkik/careclds.htm Mike

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/2734.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Fiona, Thanks for posting your message. The Cronyns and Deacons were Church of Ireland; the Cronyn/Deacon connection I'm particularly interested in is that of two ministers who probably knew each other at Trinity College, Dublin. They came out to Canada as missionaries. Rev. Benjamin Cronyn, my ancestor, became a bishop. I have found a lot of Cronyn entries in the Griffiths valuation. The trouble is that even though I have a family tree dating back to the 1700's, I can't tie specific individuals in the valuation and other records together (except in one or two cases where the name isn't that common.) In fact, I realised that you can't even besure that entries under the same name (i.e. John Cronyn) in Griffiths refer to the same person where the first name was common. What material do you have that might be helpful ? Any suggestions would be welcome. Eve

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3734.3.1.1.1 Message Board Post: The churches won't do genealogical research. There are just too many requests from all over the world and no staff to respond to them. There's a clergy shortage so the clergy are hard pressed as it is with their religious duties.

John Haile Jr. has contributed more than 7000 names to the Find-A-Grave site for St. Edward's Cemetery in Shamokin, Pa., possibly the oldest R.C. cemetery in that area. (Northumberland Co.) Shamokin was a hub of coalmining activity at one time, and many of the Irish miners from the Kilkenny and Laois areas took up roots there when they emigrated.He lists name, DOB, DOD, and best of all gives range and lot location, making it much easier to connect families. All free. For the St. Edward Cemetery only, go to: _http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=1977302&CScn=St.+Edward&CScntry=4&CSst=40_ (http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=1977302&CScn=St.+Edward&CScntry=4&CSst=40) & Apoligies for cross-posting. Jack Langton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/2734.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Eve, I've been reading postings on this site and Genforum regarding yours, and others, Kilkenny connections. I certainly think your ancestors weren't catholic. If you have any queries let me know as I have a good bit of local literature here that I could look up. Also on this site you can see Kilkenny surnames in the Griffiths valuation on this website from the irl/kilk/griffiths page...so you can see exactly where everyone was circa 1850. Regards, Fiona, Co. Kilkenny

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3671.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Frank, couldn't get to post a message on genforum but I might be able to help you a little. Firstly, look up the Ireland on line home page and type in Muckully....Muckalee is in Castlecomer and seems a bit far from your other connections. It seems, at some stage there was a Muckully in the Parish of Knocktopher. Deacon is not a common name and is almost certainly not catholic. I never heard of Tovey. Could it have been a mistake? Might have something for you on Flood Hall as I have some local history books here. Let me know if I can be of any help. Regards, Fiona. Co.Kilkenny

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cahill, Keaney, Bailey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3735 Message Board Post: I am searching for Alice born 1859 whose married name was Cahill. Her husband was a policeman in Dublin. they had a daughter Amy in 1880. He was killed and she moved to Lancashire. Any ideas where I can search - tried Ancestry and Familysearch. Her maiden name could be Keahey or Keaney. Many thanks for reading Chris

Hi, Patricia Glad to oblige.The details of the 1901 census of the Castlecomer area regarding your Kavanagh family are as follows: Townland of Skehana, Co. Kilkenny, Population 127, Cottage #19 John Kavanagh, Head, 48, Farmer, born Co. Carlow Mary, Wife 46 Children: Edward 25, Owen 22, Mary 15, Katie 13, Stephen 11 I believe there was a son, Thomas, born 4 Apr 1879. He does not appear on the census. Wife and all children born Co. Kilkenny, most likely in Skehana. I believe wife's maiden name Corcoran. Will send any pertinent info I come across. Jack Langton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3287.1 Message Board Post: Hi. This is a longshot on my part but I just received a copy of my gggrandfather's death certificate. He was born in Ireland about 1831. It states that his father's name was Conrad and his mother's name was Nellie (which is the diminutive of Ellen or Eleanor; no maiden name given). HOWEVER, in the 1870 US census, their first son is named Cornelius and he was born in Ireland about 1859. Could your Cornelius be his grandfather? My gggrandfather Edward and his family emigrated to New York in the late 1860s. Any connection to your Halpins? Margaret

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KAVANAGH, SAUNDERS,CORCORAN, PURCELL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3734.4 Message Board Post: I didn't see your original query, however by the replies I think you may be partially enquiring about the Kavanagh family in Skehana. My grandfather, Edward Kavanagh was born in Skehana in 1875 and lived there till he died in 1942.His parents were John and Mary (Corcoran).My mother Mary Kavanagh was also born in Skehana. Although I have just started my research into my Kavanagh family history, I may have details of interest to you. If you have information that will me with my research I would be very grateful.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/1258.1 Message Board Post: My nan was a Hamilton befor marrying an O'Hanlon

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3734.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Lance, Don't know how many churches that would be, likely quite a few. You might try going to http://www.catholicireland.net/pages/index.php Click on the box MASS TIMES, on the subsequent page type in Kilkenny in the search box. It will give you a good idea of the numbers involved. Good luck. Jack Langton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/2968.2.2.1 Message Board Post: I have a relative, if he is still alive, that played in a band in Carlow which is a short distance from Killkenney. His name is Parkey Delaney. His mother was Kitty Tobin before marrage, or my grandmothers half sister. Most Tobins come from killkenney. I have not been in touch with him for 30 years. You cn write to the Chamber of Commerce in Carlow to see if he is still alive.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3734.3.2 Message Board Post: I'm not sure what questions are here re: the Kavanagh name in Kilkenny, but I'll just add that there was a wealthy Kavanagh family that owned a lot of land around the Ballyragget area. They were based in, in think, Wexford, and were absentee landlords. There's a book about them I believe. My Bowes family rented land from them outside Ballyragget before emigrating during the potatoe famine. I got this information from Griffiths. No doubt there were Kavanaghs that were not of this landowning family also, and Brennen may have been somewhat common. So it wouldn't be too surprising to find a Brennan and Kavanagh near one another in Kilkenny, perhaps primarily in the north part of the county. But I am only surmising.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3734.3.1 Message Board Post: Jack, It may well be that the family you mention are related to Jo. What seems likely is that her Irish roots originate in the northern part of Kilkenny, somewhere between Grangemaccomb in the southwest to Castecomer in the northeast. Would you know approximately how many Roman Catholic churches there are within the area that may contain old baptismal and marriage records dating to the nineteenth century?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3734.3 Message Board Post: Jo, I did find one instance where a Jeffrey Brennan family and a Kavanagh family lived in the same townland, in the 1901 census. They lived in Skehana, in the Castlecomer coalmining area. (Skehana had a pop. of 127 in the census.) Jeffrey Brennan, 67, Farmer, lived with wife Mary, 50, and 7 children in cottage #10. John Kavanagh, 48, Farmer, born Co. Carlow, lived with wife Mary and five children in cottage #19. I believe Mary Kavanagh's maiden name was Corcoran. If it sounds good I can dig around some more. Jack Langton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3734.2 Message Board Post: Hello Jo, Remember me? I provided you with United States census information on your family. As the earlier respondent mentioned, finding your family roots without knowing their specific whereabouts in Kilkenny can be very, very difficult, especially with such common names as Kavanaugh and Brennan. Guesswork and luck are all that is left to try to find your roots from the only source document for your timeframe: Griffiths Evaluation of 1849-50. Let's make some assumptions: 1.) That Jeffrey's parents were already probably married by 1850, and that they met and married because they probably came from the same civil parish or townland. 2.) That Jeffrey's first name, though somewhat unusal in Ireland, probably has a family connection as was common during those times. From the first assumption we are left with this arrangement of matching Kavanaugh and Brennan families living in the same townland: Civil Parish Townland Kilmacar Sleveen Kilmacar Kilmacar Kilmacar Byrnesgrove Grangemaccomb Connahy Grangemaccomb Ardaloo From the second assumption there are no Jeffrey Kavanaughs but there are Jeffrey Brennans--that is, Geoffrey Brennan, the British and Irish way of spelling Jeffrey. Here is a list of those Geoffrey Brennans: First Name Parish Townland Geoffrey Kilmacar Ballyhimmin Geoffrey Castlecomer Cloneen Geoffrey Dysart Coan West Geoffrey Dysart Dysart Glebe Geoffrey Mothell Newtown Geoffrey Mothell Newtown Could it be then that Jeffrey was named after his maternal grandfather? There is a very good chance that this is the case. Parish Kilmacar would be a good place to start your search. Get a good Irish map and try to identify those places near here that match with the list provided and then identify the local RC church where your familial records may have been kept. If you need assistance with this, let me know. Have you been to Ireland yet? By the way, my source for this information comes from http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlkik/griffiths/a-b.htm. There are many Patrick Kavanaughs listed. One of them may likely be your ancestor.