This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3745 Message Board Post: doing research on my family, think maybe michael cahill born 1823 might be my great great grandfather, , does anyone have any infor on him thanks frank

Hi everyone! I have a William DULLARD who was born about 1820/21 in Kilkenny. His grave in West Union Iowa USA says he was born 1 Sept 1820 from Kilkenny land. I think he immigrated to New York about Oct 1851. He was 30yrs old at the time. Is anyone able to check the Griffiths' valuation or can point me in the right direction to find his family please? He did not travel with any other DULLARDs and appeared to have married a Margaret born about 1835 Ireland in the US. All of their children were born in West Union Iowa. Thanks for any assistance with this. Best wishes, Judy Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.3/445 - Release Date: 9/11/2006

Chris at coloknight@verizon.net writes: > I have an address - Killaree, Three Castles, County Kilkenny, Ireland. <snip> Would the above address be in the Barony of Cranagh? Is Killaree a townland or a parish? Is Odagh a townland or a parish? When reading an address like the one above what is the order? Town, Parish, Barony, etc. < Chris, Killaree is a large townland, about one mile south of the townland and village of Three Castles. Three Castles is the nearest postoffice to Killaree, and is about 3 miles ESE of Freshford town. Both Killaree and Three Castles are in Odagh civil parish and the barony of Crannagh. As far as a mailing address is concerned, I would think that the address as you gave it above, would be just fine - as Three Castles has a postoffice. I don't think the addition of a civil parish and barony to the address would improve the chances of delivery........it might even add a bit of extra confusion <gr>. > I have a photo of a memorial stone that reads Knockbrack, Tralee and on the back of the photo it says Cork but I can only find Tralee in Kerry. Where is it? < There is a Tralee up in Derry, but that seems unlikely. There are a few Knockbrack townlands in Co. Kerry, and three of them are somewhat near Tralee town. But my first choice would be the Knockbrack in Kilflyn civil parish, which is about 5 miles NE of central Tralee town, along the N 69 national road. Another choice might be the one in Kilmoyly CP, about 7 miles NNW of Tralee town. A third possibility would be Knockbrack in Molahiffe civil parish, about 8 miles SW of Tralee. > Also what does Knockbrack mean? There seems to be one in every county? < Knockbrack is generally translated as "speckled hill". I've never quite thought of using the adjective "speckled" as a description of a hill. Perhaps it's related to patches of gorse or heather on the hillsides. There are 44 plain Knockbracks in the www.seanruad.com listing, and an additional 8 of them if you add extensions, such as East or West. But there are many speckled hills in Ireland. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Thanks Beryl for your email. I do not have much more information than I put in my original letter. By different records that I have, I figure MY James Welch was born around 1844. I am going to take a chance and order a film from the FHC for a place in Kilkenny called GRANGESILVIA. The only reason is that there was several families of Welch and Delany. which were the names of my James' parents. (Patrick Welch & Margaret Delany). If find out anything new, I'll let you know Bill On Sep 8, 2006, at 10:53 AM, Auspicenumine@aol.com wrote: > Hi, Iam also looking for Welsh or Walsh ancestors, I don't know > if there > is any connection but thought i would contact you just encase. I > am looking > for a James Welsh born 1836/37 whose father was also James mother > not known, > both father & son were coalminers, James junior moved to england > in about > the late 1850 and married in staffordshire 1861 before moving to > Scotland. We > believe they came from the kilkenny area or around where the > coalmines were, > If you can help we will be very pleased, as at the moment we are > stuck as not > knowing the mothers name cannot trace the marriage cert. > > regards beryl Welsh > > ====Irl-Kilkenny Mailing List==== > Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KILKENNY- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lambert/Lombard/Lumbird Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3743 Message Board Post: I have an address - Killaree, Three Castles, County Kilkenny, Ireland. I know the obvious: Ireland is the country and Kilkenny is the county. I also know that Three Castles is Odogh. Now for what I don't know. Would the above address be in the Barony of Cranagh? Is Killaree a townland or a parish? Is Odagh a townland or a parish? When reading an address like the one above what is the order? Town, Parish, Barony, etc. One more: I have a photo of a memorial stone that reads Knockbrack, Tralee and on the back of the photo it says Cork but I can only find Tralee in Kerry. Where is it? Also what does Knockbrack mean? There seems to be one in every county? Help!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lambert/Lombard/Lumbird Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3744 Message Board Post: I have an address - Killaree, Three Castles, County Kilkenny, Ireland. I know the obvious: Ireland is the country and Kilkenny is the county. I also know that Three Castles is Odogh. Now for what I don't know. Would the above address be in the Barony of Cranagh? Is Killaree a townland or a parish? Is Odagh a townland or a parish? When reading an address like the one above what is the order? Town, Parish, Barony, etc. One more: I have a photo of a memorial stone that reads Knockbrack, Tralee and on the back of the photo it says Cork but I can only find Tralee in Kerry. Where is it? Also what does Knockbrack mean? There seems to be one in every county? Help!

Hi, Iam also looking for Welsh or Walsh ancestors, I don't know if there is any connection but thought i would contact you just encase. I am looking for a James Welsh born 1836/37 whose father was also James mother not known, both father & son were coalminers, James junior moved to england in about the late 1850 and married in staffordshire 1861 before moving to Scotland. We believe they came from the kilkenny area or around where the coalmines were, If you can help we will be very pleased, as at the moment we are stuck as not knowing the mothers name cannot trace the marriage cert. regards beryl Welsh

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3741.2.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for your reply. At your suggestion I did do a look up for the dates of Ash Wednesday in the years in which marriages occurred in February. Following is the result -- marriage date followed by the date of Ash Wednesday. 11/02/1822 -- 20/02/1822 26/02/1824 -- 03/03/1824 26/02/1827 -- 28/02/1827 15/02/1830 -- 24/02/1830 02/02/1831 -- 16/02/1831 08/02/1836 -- 17/02/1836 11/02/1836 -- do 14/02/1838 -- 28/02/1834 It certainly appears there was a rush to marriage before Lent began. Thanks again to everyone. Mike

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3741.2 Message Board Post: It might be interesting to find out went Lent started in the years that there were Feb. marriages. There were very few marriages in Lent prior to Vatican II. When there were marriages they were somber affairs--no music etc. I wouldn't be surprised if the marriages in Feb. occurred before Ash Wednesday.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3742.1 Message Board Post: Hello Mike, You need to know where in County Kilkenny they were born, dates of birth, their parents names and religious denomination to find possible baptismal records in the local church registers. Church registers aren't computerised or centralised. There are no records in Ireland of who emigrated, where they went or what happened to them after emigration. There are no vital records in Ireland before 1864 (Protestant marriages in 1845). Vital records aren't computerised. They're in date order. There are no surviving census records for the 1800s. The first Irish census records are 1901 and 1911 and neither is computerised as yet. They're only available on microfilm. Ireland in Irish (Gaeilge) is spelled Éire. Erie would be a city in Pennsylvania or Lake Erie, one of the Great Lakes in the US. Since 1949 when Ireland became a Republic the preferred reference is Republic of Ireland or Ireland when speaking English. Regards. Eilís O'Hara

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McCormick, McGuinnis or similar spellings Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3742 Message Board Post: I have a thorough family tree of these Irish Americans, but am now looking for their Irish ancestors. Mary's maiden name has been spelled several ways: McGuiness, McGeniss, McGuiniss, etc. It is believed they sailed to Boston, because their first son, Patrick, was born near Stockbridge, Massachusetts in Feb 1835. I know my Irish McCormick and McGuinnis cousins are still there in Erie. When you identify yourselves I'll come over from California and buy you a pint of Guiness. Mike Larro No. California

Bill, What iformation are you seeking? Do you know where in Kilkenny the family lived? Where the children were born? Have you checked Griffiths Valuation for a possible location? I am assuming they came from Co. Kilkenny since you are posting on the Kilkenny list. Have you checked the rootsweb Kilkenny website for help? It has a lot of excellent info and database info. Tell us more so we can try to help you. Maureen N

I am looking for information on the family of PATRICK WELCH/WALSH & MARGARET DELANY. Their birth dates would probably be in the early 1820s. I know one of their children was JAMES WELCH, who was born around 1844. James came to America about 1859 and settled in Derby Connecticut (also known as Birmingham Connecticut). Thanks Bill NJ USA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3741.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Jack, Thank you for your reply. I had thought about Lent. I guess February, at that time, must be the equivalent of our June insofar as weddings are concerned. Of the other four marriages I have recorded, one was in December, one in Janurary, one in March, and finally one in May. Maybe I next need to check the birth paterns! Thanks again, Mike

Dan, There are two townlands in Kilkenny named Seskin. You can find them by doing a query at this site http://www.seanruad.com/ Additionally, there are Campion families located in both Freshford and Seskin in the Griffith's Valuation. You can query Griffith's Valuation here http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php Mike On 9/6/06, dan <rockydan@cebridge.net> wrote: > > We have a family of Campions in our background. > Margaret Campion married John Brennan around 1845, I think. Found a > marriage entry in the Lisdowney RC parish > register for John Brennan and Margaret Campion on July 30 1845. I am > not positive these are our people, but the similarity > is striking. At one time John's grandson said the family was from > Freshford. The marriage record looks like "Seskin." They emigrated to > North America in 1846. > > Margaret had a brother, (I think) Michael Campion, who emigrated around > the same time. They came via Canada to Michigan > City, Indiana. Their son Matthew Elevart Campion became a priest in > Indiana. I know he was related because the family says a cousin > married John Francis Brennan and Margaret Hoffman in Logansport, > Indiana. The registry is signed by M.E. Campion. > > There is some connection to someone named Elevart-Green in Kilkenny. > Sure could use some help on these folks. Their origins in Kilkenny and > kinfolk. > > > > ====Irl-Kilkenny Mailing List==== > Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dan, Did your family settle in MA? There is a John Carroll who served in Co. D, 50th Regiment, MA Infantry (Militia) during the civil war with a wife named Anastasia on his pension record. If this is your John, I suggest obtaining a copy of his civil war pension record from the National Archives which may include a great deal of information including his Irish origins. If you see a connection here let me know and I can email you a copy of his civil war pension record image which includes claim numbers. Mike On 9/6/06, dan <rockydan@cebridge.net> wrote: > > We have and Anastasia Malay, b. ca 1809, who married John Carroll around > 1840 ± in Kilkenny someplace. > They emigrated to North America around 1848-53 through New Orleans on > the ship Blake, possibly via Liverpool. > Her mother was reportedly a Madden. > Their children Robert, Bridget and Mary were born in Ireland. > > Looking for help on their place of origin and families. > > > > ====Irl-Kilkenny Mailing List==== > Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

We have and Anastasia Malay, b. ca 1809, who married John Carroll around 1840 ± in Kilkenny someplace. They emigrated to North America around 1848-53 through New Orleans on the ship Blake, possibly via Liverpool. Her mother was reportedly a Madden. Their children Robert, Bridget and Mary were born in Ireland. Looking for help on their place of origin and families.

We have a family of Campions in our background. Margaret Campion married John Brennan around 1845, I think. Found a marriage entry in the Lisdowney RC parish register for John Brennan and Margaret Campion on July 30 1845. I am not positive these are our people, but the similarity is striking. At one time John's grandson said the family was from Freshford. The marriage record looks like "Seskin." They emigrated to North America in 1846. Margaret had a brother, (I think) Michael Campion, who emigrated around the same time. They came via Canada to Michigan City, Indiana. Their son Matthew Elevart Campion became a priest in Indiana. I know he was related because the family says a cousin married John Francis Brennan and Margaret Hoffman in Logansport, Indiana. The registry is signed by M.E. Campion. There is some connection to someone named Elevart-Green in Kilkenny. Sure could use some help on these folks. Their origins in Kilkenny and kinfolk.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3741 Message Board Post: I was doing a spreadsheet of family members married in Callan Parish 1822-1849 and discovered that a majority of these marriages, 8 of 12, took place in the month of February. Is this coincidental or is there perhaps some other explanation? Any input appreciated. Mike

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MILLEA Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3740.1 Message Board Post: Hi Howard, Are you interested in the people listed in the Griffiths Valuation Index Extracts Kilkenny 1849-1850 which can be found at: http://www.failteromhat.com/kilkenny.htm There are a number of MILLEA listed in each of the civil parishes of Aghaviller, Aharney, Ballytobin, Clara, Danesfort, Dungarvan, Fiddown, Gowran, Grangekilree, Kells, Kilcolumb, Kilkeasy,Killamery, Kilmaganny, Knocktopher, Outrath, Rathkieran, St. Canices, St. Patrick's, Thomastown, Tiscoffin, Tullahought, Whitechurch. Hazel