This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3753 Message Board Post: While doing research on my Lonergan family, I located the marriage of one of my relatives Philip Lonergan and there were a number of other marriages appearing on the same page. I am listing all of the marriages below with the understanding some of the names and townlands were difficult to read. All spellings are as they appear on the registers. These marriages are extracted from the Parochial Registers of Windgap 1822-1882 (FHL Film 926205), County Kilkenny. Matthew Carroll - Anastasia Brawders, 29 Jan 1880, witnesses: Michael Butler and Honora Murphy. Residence: Tullahought John Cody - Mary Mackey, 9 Feb 1880, witnesses: Patrick Lee and Ellen Cass. Residence: Kossenany Michael Ryan - Mary Cahill, 9 Feb 1880, witnesses: Thomas Power and Ellen Cahill. Residence: Kossenany Philip Londrigan - Mary Landy, 28 Feb 1880, witnesses: Thomas Londergan and Maggie Landy. Residence: Butlerswood William Phelan - Mary ??oley, 1 Mar 1880, witnesses: Patrick Ryan and Mary Landy. Residence: Seskin Richard Shea - Bridget Lee, 1 Mar 1880, witnesses: Pierce White and Ellen Lee. Residence: Coolhill Kyran Dowley - Bridget Maher, 4 Oct 1881, witnesses: Thomas Cleary and Bridget Fitzgerald. Residence: Springmount John Croake - Margaret Cullen, 6 Oct 1881, witnesses: John and Mary Phelan. Residence: Ballygown Reade Thomas Gunn - Johanna Pell, 7 Feb 1882, witnesses: Thomas Egan and Mary Landy. Residence: Cotterstown John Doherty - Alice Hyland, 9 Feb 1882, witnesses: William Doherty and Margaret Fleming. Residence: Inch Laurence Kealy - Mary Maughan, 2 Mar 1882, witnesses: Edmund Larkin and Bridget Maughan. Residence: Cotterstown James Troy - Callahan, 26 Jun 1882, witnesses: Pierce and Anne Power. Residence: Windgap Patrick Aylward - Ellen ???an, 9 Aug 1882, witnesses: Michael Kelly and Bridget Burke. Residence: Kildrummy Mike

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/2463.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Eileen, I have an Ally Saunders who maried a John Ryan 14 May 1845 in the Catholic Parish of Callan. Their residence was listed as Ballywalter. I also have a Mary Saunders who married a John Ryan bef 1833. I have not researched the Ryan origins. In your initial post you stated one of your baptismal records showed a townland of Bohenvarga in Callan Parish. The townland is probably Boherawarraga, Civil Parish of Coolaghmore, Barony of Kells, Province of Leinster, County Kilkenny. The Civil Parish of Coolaghmore is in the Catholic Parish of Callan. Civil Resistration didn't begin until 1864 in Ireland. To do additional research on your family you will have to rely on Church records. The Parochial Registers of Callan cover the period of 1821-1881. You can order and review these records at your local Family History Center. The Family History Library microfiche number is 926189. Mike

To Donna Griffin: I don't know if this will amount to anything, but I have several Waters ancestors buried with an Elizabeth Cullen who died in Chicago June 5, 1890, and is buried at Calvary Cemetery. William Cullen bought three graves on that day. However, Anne Murphy Waters, who was born in Kilkenny in 1826, was buried in this same plot on April 10, 1880. Two other Waters were buried there in 1883. I have been trying to identify who these Cullens are and why my ancestors were buried there before William Cullen purchased 3 graves (five bodies actually buried there). There was also a James Cook (or Cooke) buried there on April 3, 1880. I don't know who he is either. Do you have a William or Elizabeth Cullen, or a James Cook in your Kilkenny ancestors? Nancy Thomas

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Walsh/Quinn Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/1658.1859.1865 Message Board Post: I have a Margaret Walsh married Edmond Quinn on 2/5/1849, Cussana, Kilkenny, IRE. Celebrant was Rev. Edward Walsh; witnesses were: Wm Quinn; Mary Quinn, Philip Walsh & Betty Quinn. Their children were: Honora Quinn b.1853; Anne(Anastatia?) Quinn b. 1855; John Quinn b. 1859 and Elizabeth Quinn b. 1863. Anne married Walter Walsh-their children were William K. Walsh; Edwin (Neddie) Walsh; and Mary Walsh( who died young). Anne stayed in Ire, the rest of her siblings immigrated to Albany, NY. Somewhere in the family tree we also have a Nora Agnes Barry married to ? Walsh & a Johanna Walsh m. to ? Burns.

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In 1850 James Cullen and Margaret Brennan Cullen arrived in the US with their 5 mo old daughter Margaret. James Cullen stated on his citizenship papers that he is from Kilkenny. I know that Margaret Brennan is the daughter of Thomas Brennan and Ellen Comerford per her death record. SO...I looked for James Cullen and Thomas Brennan on the Griffith's valuation.... There are 49 (yes 49) Thomas Brennans in Kilkenny and 12 James Cullens. Then I got the bright idea to see if any of these folks lived near each other....thinking that since James and Margaret were married and had a child before leaving Ireland, maybe they lived in the same area..... AND, I found a Thomas Brennan in Ballilogue in the parish of Rower and 4 of the James Cullens (including one Jr.) in various towns in that parish... I thought this might give me a clue of where to look for marriage and birth records but have not yet found any available on the internet. Anyone know where I might find any records for this parish....other than thru the Rothe Center in Kilkenny (who I have already contacted)???? Or better yet....anyone know any of these folks, or have another suggestion on sorting this out. Will be in Kilkenny in November and would love to see where they were from... Thanks for any suggestions.... Donna Griffin

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Hello Fred and all, Here is a great site which gives the information, about what and when records were kept in Kilkenny, and much more: http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Eirlkik/index.htm Good Luck, Terry Hurley My ancestor, Lawrence DANIEL, was a Roman Catholic who is said to have come from County Kilkenny to the U.S. He did not appear in Griffiths Valuation of 1849-1850, but he did appear in the 1850 census of Brooklyn, New York.    I have had little luck in tracing him.  I searched Griffiths Valuation and found 25 men with the Surname DANIEL.  17 of them were in the Civil Parish of Fiddown so this appears to be the most promising area in which to search.  The Roman Catholic Parishes in Fiddown were Owning and Templeorum, but it appears that these records are incomplete for much of the 1840s.  Does anyone on the list know for sure?  Were civil parish records of births, marriages and deaths kept? Thanks,  Fred Kopfler ====Irl-Kilkenny Mailing List==== Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: shea oshea Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3668.1.1 Message Board Post: SUSAN THANKYOU ... I TOO AM GETTING EXTREMELY CONFUSED BY THE REFERRALSTO DIFFERENT PLACENAMES.. I WILL REPLY PERSONALLY AS I HAVE JUST FOUND THIS WEEK SOME VERIFICATION O F MORE NAMESINCL A PATRICK FATHER OF REV ROBERT OSHEA CAPPAHENRY I ALSO HAVE IN 1765 ROBERT SHEA AND WALTER SHEA FARMERS AT WHITESLAND .. IN 1827 THOMAS AND JOHN SHEA WERE AT WHITESLAND AND AN EDMOND AT CAPPAHENRY AND A RICHARD AT FOULKSRATH// I HAVE SOMEBODY THERE MAILING ME MORE IN FO .. MY EM IS johnkingi@xtra.co.nz

My ancestor, Lawrence DANIEL, was a Roman Catholic who is said to have come from County Kilkenny to the U.S. He did not appear in Griffiths Valuation of 1849-1850, but he did appear in the 1850 census of Brooklyn, New York. I have had little luck in tracing him. I searched Griffiths Valuation and found 25 men with the Surname DANIEL. 17 of them were in the Civil Parish of Fiddown so this appears to be the most promising area in which to search. The Roman Catholic Parishes in Fiddown were Owning and Templeorum, but it appears that these records are incomplete for much of the 1840s. Does anyone on the list know for sure? Were civil parish records of births, marriages and deaths kept? Thanks, Fred Kopfler

>From the Laois Nationalist 28 Sep: An RTE film crew came to Clogh (Co. Kilkenny) last week while making a programme on the mines and visited The Deerpark (mine) and Lar Power’s in Glenmullen. They did some filming in Coffey’s pub which had a huge mining clientele. Robert Vance will be the presenter when the programme is broadcast in February. Jack Langton

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fluney, Flurey, Fleury Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3750 Message Board Post: According to an IGI,John Flurey was born abt.1779 his wife Anty Walsh was born abt. 1783, and Elna ( also could be Eliz)was chr. Nov.18, 1805. John and Anty were married about 1804, again at St. Marys. My relative John Fluney was born in the 1840s,in Ireland. The Fluney name may have been Fleury , originally? Is there someone, who may have more family information for these Irish ancestors?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McAvoy, McEvoy, Bramer, Braemer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3749 Message Board Post: Searching for information on parents of Michael McAvoy Sr., born 3 September 1824 in Dunmore County Kilkenny Ireland, died 23 July 1888 in Elyria, Ohio, occupation shoemaker. Married Mary Bramer (sp) in Quebec Canada, born 1825 Ireland, died 6 May 1892 in Elyria Ohio. Children were Ellen 1846 New York, Michael II born 18 December 1847 Madison New York, Charles born January 1853 Elyria Ohio, Mary Elizabeth born 12 October 1855 Elyria Ohio, James born August 1858 Elyria Ohio

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hackett,Nolan and Mahon Families Kilkenny Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3698.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello Eilis. Thank you for the reply to my query,it seems that i have come to the end with my family in I reland, as I don't know when Julia returned or what religious order she entered. Thank you again Yasmin Christie

irl-kilkenny-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Lennigan and Welsh ancestors (Auspicenumine@aol.com) > 2. Re: Lennigan and Welsh ancestors (Auspicenumine@aol.com) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 06:13:45 EDT >From: Auspicenumine@aol.com >Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] Lennigan and Welsh ancestors >To: irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <55b.728a3ac.324905d9@aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Hi, I am trying to trace my husbands grt.grandad place of birth. His names >is James Welsh born about 1836/37 we believe in the Kilkenny/ Carlow area >his father was known as James Welsh mother unknown both James were Coalminers, >James Junior came to england (Staffordshire were he married a Mary Robinson >in1861) then moved to Scotland and carried on as a coalminer. I know you say >Walsh but a priest we spoke to when in ireland 18months ago said that in the >same family they used the two names Welsh?Walsh. I hope you may be able to >help, as at the moment i am stuck? > >regards >Beryl Welsh > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 07:18:19 EDT >From: Auspicenumine@aol.com >Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] Lennigan and Welsh ancestors >To: irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <461.617afe6.324914fb@aol.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Hi >Iam tracing my husbands ancestors, and have now come to a full stop. We have >his grt.grandfather James Welsh born 1836/37 in the killkenny and Carlow >area his father was James also, mother not known. Both Father and son were >coalminers James Junior moved to england about 1858 and married a Mary Robinson >in Stoke on Trent in 1861 they then moved to Scotland and he carried on as a >coalminer, and this is were he started my husbands ancestors. and as you say >Welsh or Walsh. When we were over in killkenny area trying to trace his >ancestors a priest told us that sometime in the same family they would use >Welsh or Walsh. We are hoping you may have some connections to enable us to >continue aur tracing of there ancestors. > >regards >Beryl Welsh > > >------------------------------ > >To contact the IRL-KILKENNY list administrator, send an email to >IRL-KILKENNY-admin@rootsweb.com. > >To post a message to the IRL-KILKENNY mailing list, send an email to IRL-KILKENNY@rootsweb.com. > >__________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com >with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >email with no additional text. > > >End of IRL-KILKENNY Digest, Vol 1, Issue 12 >******************************************* >I have found that Welsh and Walsh are routinely interchanged, Long with Brannack in all its various spellings. They stem from the first immigrants from Wales to Ireland in medieval times and seemed to have localised in Kilkenny. On my first visit to Ireland I told my wife's cousin that my grandmother's name was Brannack and his response was "Oh--Walsh!" Fred Boland BOLAND BRANNACK FOLEY McMANIGAL/McMONEGAL > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: tynan, nolab Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3049.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi, would you have any other info now on Lag Tynan Thanks Kathy Tynan

Hi Iam tracing my husbands ancestors, and have now come to a full stop. We have his grt.grandfather James Welsh born 1836/37 in the killkenny and Carlow area his father was James also, mother not known. Both Father and son were coalminers James Junior moved to england about 1858 and married a Mary Robinson in Stoke on Trent in 1861 they then moved to Scotland and he carried on as a coalminer, and this is were he started my husbands ancestors. and as you say Welsh or Walsh. When we were over in killkenny area trying to trace his ancestors a priest told us that sometime in the same family they would use Welsh or Walsh. We are hoping you may have some connections to enable us to continue aur tracing of there ancestors. regards Beryl Welsh

Hi, I am trying to trace my husbands grt.grandad place of birth. His names is James Welsh born about 1836/37 we believe in the Kilkenny/ Carlow area his father was known as James Welsh mother unknown both James were Coalminers, James Junior came to england (Staffordshire were he married a Mary Robinson in1861) then moved to Scotland and carried on as a coalminer. I know you say Walsh but a priest we spoke to when in ireland 18months ago said that in the same family they used the two names Welsh?Walsh. I hope you may be able to help, as at the moment i am stuck? regards Beryl Welsh