Hi - do you know if the Judy Dunne mentioned is a relation of Mattie Dunne (she also had a sister) who is a relation of mine - I have a lot of Phelans in my family tree - some of whom moved to New Zealand and some who were related to Minnie Phelan who married James Lang Any help would be great. Felicity -----Original Message----- From: setab_01@clear.net.nz To: irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 2.22AM Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] Phelan,Brennan,Whelan,Brophy in Kilkenny On 3 June 1840 Honna Walsh oldest daughter of Thomas Walsh and Bridget Hennessy (various spellings) from Kilkenny Road was baptised. The sponsors at the baptism were John Cuddihy and Cath Brophy. On 30 Jan 1847 Patrick Walsh, of Chapel L. Thomastown, 3rd son of Thomas Walsh and Bridget Hennessy was baptised, sponsors were Thomas Cody and Maria Lawless (could be Mary Lawless. On 4 November 1850 Ellen Walsh of Ladywell, Thomastown, 4th daughter of Thomas Walsh and Bridget Hennessy was baptised, sponsors were Michael Phelan and Judy Dunne. Ellen is my ggrandmother. All of these baptisms came from the Callan Parish registers. It maybe a possibility that Whelan and Phelan are the same people but a typo. The 'P' and 'W', got transcribed incorrectly. Just a thought. I would be interested in hearing from anyone regarding the above names. There may be a connection with the walsh family here. regards Dianne At 07:28 a.m. 15/04/2007, you wrote: > > >In a message dated 4/14/2007 12:58:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >dwmiles@qldnet.com.au writes: > >Asking about the names Phelan, Brennan, Whelan and Brophy. These people were > connected to our John Butler married Mary Lawless either related or friends >as evidenced in letters to one of our ancxestors. Does anyone know of a >connection between teir names and ours? > > > >David, > > All the names you mention are legion in Kilkenny. Can you supply >approximate year(s) or townland(s)? > > Jack Langton > > > > > > >************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. >====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== >Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have a great trip - I was in Kilkenny about five years ago & loved Castlecomer. Researching Lyng, Collins, Doyle, Shore. Regards, Ann Marie. -----Original Message----- From: irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ashenique Sent: April 15, 2007 4:07 AM To: irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com Subject: [KILKENNY] Thanks - Trip to ireland A big thanks to all who offered advice re accommodation in Ireland - thanks to all who spared the time. Cheers Shane ====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

A big thanks to all who offered advice re accommodation in Ireland - thanks to all who spared the time. Cheers Shane

On 3 June 1840 Honna Walsh oldest daughter of Thomas Walsh and Bridget Hennessy (various spellings) from Kilkenny Road was baptised. The sponsors at the baptism were John Cuddihy and Cath Brophy. On 30 Jan 1847 Patrick Walsh, of Chapel L. Thomastown, 3rd son of Thomas Walsh and Bridget Hennessy was baptised, sponsors were Thomas Cody and Maria Lawless (could be Mary Lawless. On 4 November 1850 Ellen Walsh of Ladywell, Thomastown, 4th daughter of Thomas Walsh and Bridget Hennessy was baptised, sponsors were Michael Phelan and Judy Dunne. Ellen is my ggrandmother. All of these baptisms came from the Callan Parish registers. It maybe a possibility that Whelan and Phelan are the same people but a typo. The 'P' and 'W', got transcribed incorrectly. Just a thought. I would be interested in hearing from anyone regarding the above names. There may be a connection with the walsh family here. regards Dianne At 07:28 a.m. 15/04/2007, you wrote: > > >In a message dated 4/14/2007 12:58:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >dwmiles@qldnet.com.au writes: > >Asking about the names Phelan, Brennan, Whelan and Brophy. These people were > connected to our John Butler married Mary Lawless either related or friends >as evidenced in letters to one of our ancxestors. Does anyone know of a >connection between teir names and ours? > > > >David, > > All the names you mention are legion in Kilkenny. Can you supply >approximate year(s) or townland(s)? > > Jack Langton > > > > > > >************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. >====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== >Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To:irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com CC: BCC: Subject:Re: [KILKENNY] Phelan,Brennan,Whelan,Brophy in Kilkenny Phelan/ Whelan are the same name, Lawlor/Lawless/Lalor are usually the same name. A Thomas Walsh married Bridget Hennessy Oct 6, 1837 at Green. Witns were: Peter Brennan and Ann Hurley. I only see 3 Walsh/Hennessy children baptised in Kells: Edmund bapt Jan 13, 1838; sp: Peter Brennan & Anne Hurley. Honora bapt Jun 3, 1840. SP: John Cuddihy and Catherine Brophy. Ed bapt Jan 21, 1843. SP: Ed Hennessy & Honor Dargan. Hope it helps. Kate -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web

In a message dated 4/14/2007 12:58:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dwmiles@qldnet.com.au writes: Asking about the names Phelan, Brennan, Whelan and Brophy. These people were connected to our John Butler married Mary Lawless either related or friends as evidenced in letters to one of our ancxestors. Does anyone know of a connection between teir names and ours? David, All the names you mention are legion in Kilkenny. Can you supply approximate year(s) or townland(s)? Jack Langton ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Was the name LYNG or LYNCH?, if it was LYNCH, did any of the descendants migrate to Northeastern Pennsylvania? Jack San Diego

Hi Beryl Unfortunately I don't have a James Walsh/Welsh in my tree. But that is not to say that there wasn't one. I am discovering all sorts of names in my irish ancestory where it is a possibility they are mine. I have most of my irish arriving in australia in 1854 but there are still some names I can't find in Australia. Edmund, Edmond, Mary and Patrick, are all siblings of my ggrandmother but unfortunately I can't find them on the same shipping list as parents. In saying that I still don't know if I have the correct ship because my ggrandmother isn't listed with them and it has been suggested that she was put with another family due to them being allowed only 3 or 4 children to sail with them. Who knows! It is a mystery still. I will keep you in mind if I find anything. Regards Dianne At 12:04 a.m. 13/04/2007, you wrote: >Hi, > >Isaw your e-Mail and saw the name Walsh that you are looking for We are >looking for my husbands ancestors the name is Welsh, i know that >sometimes they >would be called Walsh and then Welsh so I was wondering if there is any >connection . My husbands ancestor was a James Welsh born 1836 to a >James Welsh >they were both Coalminers in the kilkenny area, i do not know his >mothers names >he came to england in the late 1858, It is very hard tracing your irish >ancestor as they lost of paper workround about that time. > > >regards beryl welsh > > > > >====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== >Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for any information on the CAREY family who lived in Carrickborne midway between Thomastown and Inistioge during the 1800's. BRIDGET CAREY married my greatgrandfather (MICHAEL LYNG of The Rower) in Thomastown July 23,1860. Angela M. Pieper

I am searching for the ship my Walsh ancestors arrived in Australia on. What I have so far is I think they arrived in Melbourne October 1854 on the ship Black Eagle. The problem I have is that my ggrandmother Ellen Walsh who would have been 4 at the time was not listed with them. It has been suggested that she is the 4 year old listed with the family Lawlor, from Kilkenny,who were on the same sailing. The reason being that under some assisted immigrant schemes the families were allowed to have a certain amount of children with them so they put other children with other families. I haven't been able to confirm if this is correct or not. I also have that Patrick Walsh (my ggrandmothers brother) was born on 30 Jan 1847 in Chapel L. Kilkenny. The sponsors (godparents) at his baptism were Thomas Cody and Maria LAWLESS. Lawlor and Lawless, could it be a typo. Michael if you see this go to http://proarchives.imagineering.com.au/Index_search.asp?searchid=24 and do a search for Lawlor, to see if any of the names match yours. I would be interested to hear from you regarding Ellen Lawlor if you have one in your family tree. You can contact me on setab_01@clear.net.nz At 03:11 a.m. 13/04/2007, you wrote: >Hi Michael, > >In searching for my Wall ancestors in Kilkenny City, I ordered a film >through the LDS library. It turned out to be a film of the transcipt taken >by a Walsh family member, of a large number of Walsh and related families >records (extending to 1000+ I guess) across the county. > >It did not help me but you will have a better chance, I am sure. Sorry I >don't recall the reference but it will be on record at any LDS library. > >John >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Michael KAY" <mickay@ozemail.com.au> >To: <IRL-KILKENNY@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:33 AM >Subject: [KILKENNY] Lawlor/Wash > > > > Hi > > > > I am new to the list I am interested in my ancestors, I have got as far as > > Patrick Lawlor b abt 1812 married to Alicia Walsh b abt 1826, in > > Paulstown, Kilkenny, would love to find out more and see if any other > > relations exist. thanks. > > > > Michael........... > > > > ====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== > > Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== >Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I am new to the list I am interested in my ancestors, I have got as far as Patrick Lawlor b abt 1812 married to Alicia Walsh b abt 1826, in Paulstown, Kilkenny, would love to find out more and see if any other relations exist. thanks. Michael...........

Hi Michael, In searching for my Wall ancestors in Kilkenny City, I ordered a film through the LDS library. It turned out to be a film of the transcipt taken by a Walsh family member, of a large number of Walsh and related families records (extending to 1000+ I guess) across the county. It did not help me but you will have a better chance, I am sure. Sorry I don't recall the reference but it will be on record at any LDS library. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael KAY" <mickay@ozemail.com.au> To: <IRL-KILKENNY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: [KILKENNY] Lawlor/Wash > Hi > > I am new to the list I am interested in my ancestors, I have got as far as > Patrick Lawlor b abt 1812 married to Alicia Walsh b abt 1826, in > Paulstown, Kilkenny, would love to find out more and see if any other > relations exist. thanks. > > Michael........... > > ====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== > Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Isaw your e-Mail and saw the name Walsh that you are looking for We are looking for my husbands ancestors the name is Welsh, i know that sometimes they would be called Walsh and then Welsh so I was wondering if there is any connection . My husbands ancestor was a James Welsh born 1836 to a James Welsh they were both Coalminers in the kilkenny area, i do not know his mothers names he came to england in the late 1858, It is very hard tracing your irish ancestor as they lost of paper workround about that time. regards beryl welsh

We're planning to visit Kilkenny City this summer. I'm trying to obtain contact with anyone who might recognize this family: Patrick Egan married Mary Cunningham in Kilkenny City in 1857. They lived on Watkin St. Patrick and Mary had three children, all of whom were born in Kilkenny City. They were Bridget (1858), Mary (1860) and William (1863). The family emigrated to Lewiston Maine in about 1869. Both Patrick and Mary died in Lewiston in 1874. Their son William, who was my wife's grandfather, went to Newport Rhode Island as an orphan to live with his step-sister. Mary Cunningham had previously been married to John Smyth. They were married in Kilkenny City, lived on Watkin St. and had four children including Catherine (1849), Patrick (1852), Ellen and Elizabeth (1854). The three girls emigrated to Lewiston Maine with Mary and her second husband, Patrick Egan. Eventually, after their mother and step-father's deaths, Catherine and Elizabether moved to Newport Rhode Island. Ellen remained in Lewiston, Maine. Please contact blaine_oconnell@alumni.holycross.edu

I can recommend "The Abbey" B&B, across the street (literally!) from Jerpoint Abbey near Thomastown in Kilkenny. Talk to Mrs Helen Blanchfield...nice rooms, cooked to order breakfast, very scenic, and great location. We went to Jerpoint first thing in the morning and had the place to ourselves. Beth Egan O'Keefe ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

G'day everyone We (Mum Dad and 2 kids under 8) are venturing to Ireland in May - we are interested in suggestions re accommodation in Ireland. What is the best way to go - we will be visiting Co's Kilkenny, Wicklow, Clare and Cork - in no specific order - trying to ascertain information on families (Byrne, Monaghan, Mahoney, McNamara and Hayes) in various locations within the Counties. Thanks in advance Shane

I would be most interested in rents or any documents identifying the Dreaper family. Richard Dreaper was, I believe, a middleman for the Wandesford and owned/rented a farm in early 1800s. Best wishes on your search. Tom Draper > > > Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ > > Today's Topics: > > 1. NLI-Wandesforde papers (Deborah Fox) > 2. Re: NLI-Wandesforde papers (khanley@keyisp.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 08:31:40 -0400 > From: "Deborah Fox" <deborahlargefox@verizon.net> > Subject: [KILKENNY] NLI-Wandesforde papers > To: <irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <07EC41C7F92442CA84DC47DE3486FCFB@DeborahLaptop> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Preparing for my May trip, I am trying to organize my research. Hoping > to research the Wandesforde estate papers, I downloaded the 202 page > finding aide to the collection. While many items are apparently not > useful to genealogical research, there are many papers dealing with > rents, tenants, and the mines. Has anyone looked at the Colliery Account > books or rent receipts? What I am wondering is--do these contain lists > of names or are they simply financial in nature? I will only have a day > or two to research at the NLI (it is clear that I will have to make > another trip!), and would like to narrow my list of files to request > before I go to maximize my chances of obtaining lists of names. > ___________________________________________ > Deborah Large Fox > www.deborahlarge.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2007 09:15:22 -0400 > From: "khanley@keyisp.com" <khanley@keyisp.com> > Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] NLI-Wandesforde papers > To: irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <380-22007445131522527@M2W005.mail2web.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > Deborah, > What area of Kilkenny are you researching? > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web LIVE ? Free email based on Microsoft? Exchange technology - > http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-KILKENNY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-KILKENNY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KILKENNY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-KILKENNY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional > text. > > > End of IRL-KILKENNY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 29 > *******************************************

Hi, came across this place where we stayed. Great place, good breakfasts, family into genealogy. I believe that Mrs. Phelan (the hostess) used to be at the Rothe house. Not too far off the beaten path North of Kilkenny city. We stayed in one of the carriage houses. Country setting, good for walks after dinner. Old bell tower on property http://www.blanchville.ie/index.html Gary -----Original Message----- From: irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ashenique Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 8:19 AM To: IRL-KILKENNY@rootsweb.com Subject: [KILKENNY] B & B Accommodation? G'day everyone We (Mum Dad and 2 kids under 8) are venturing to Ireland in May - we are interested in suggestions re accommodation in Ireland. What is the best way to go - we will be visiting Co's Kilkenny, Wicklow, Clare and Cork - in no specific order - trying to ascertain information on families (Byrne, Monaghan, Mahoney, McNamara and Hayes) in various locations within the Counties. Thanks in advance Shane ====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I normally plan ahead to where I am going and what day I'll be there. You can find some b&bs online and make your arrangements online. I have had good luck doing so. You didn't mention where you are flying into...Dublin has a Tourist centre and many of the larger towns have where you can book b&bs. They are very handy and helpful. I think, if you are driving, you will have a challenge with size of car. You might want to reserve a van. The cars and vans are much smaller than in the US. You may be able to fit the people in the car but the luggage won't fit. We (Mum Dad and 2 kids under 8) are venturing to Ireland in May - we are > interested in suggestions re accommodation in Ireland. What is the best > way > to go - we will be visiting Co's Kilkenny, Wicklow, Clare and Cork - in no > specific order - > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Deborah: Probably not much help, but I have quite a few Callan records where you're surnames appear. Just sending them in your: "You Never Know file!" Military: the following reg'ts were stations in Callan area during 1805-1885 - only based on Church Records: 57th, 89th Regt; 64th Regt; 75th & 76th Regt. Might have been more... Soldiers from those reg'ts are mentioned in area Church Records: Michael Kavanagh, a Soldier Stationed Callan, married Ally Bergin June 1848 Other soldiers were William Bowe; Daniel Condon, Wm Moyse(?) and Michael McDonnel The local Callan residents, with your names were - (during 1830-80's) BOWES: BOWE Michael ...m. Meehan also listed as Nicholas. Bowe, John. m. a Smith Bowe, John m a Tobin; KELLY- Andrew; Chas. (m. Butler); Chas m. Mary Walsh Denis m. Gleeson; Edmund m. a Cudihy; James - 1. m. a Cooney, 2nd James m. a Hayden; John m. a Cody; John (2nd) m. a Hennessy; John 3rd m. a Tobin; Laurence m. a Direen; Leonard m. a Stack; Martin m. a Heffernan; Maurice m. Connell; Patrick b. Finn, Patrick (2nd) m. Maher; Thomas m. Sullivan; and Wm m. Phelan, CAVANAGH - John m. Barnable; John 2 m. a Kenny; Martin m. a Dargan; Wm m. a Commins (Conner?), Wm. m. Slyman. Kate