Beryl, Coal miner - might be Carlow or Wexford? Someone on the list may be able to help there. If Junior left in the late 1850s, his father would have probably been listed in Griffiths Valuation. This Valuation was done around 1850 and took several years. Griffiths Valuation is online and can be found at: _http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.htm_ (http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.htm) Unfortunately, Welch is a pretty common name and may be a bit more difficult to find than some names. If you are not familiar with Griffiths Valuation, it is a listing of people occupying land; it is not a census. Only the head of the family is mentioned. One very good website for Co Kilkenny is: _http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlkik/_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlkik/) For Co Carlow: _http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/Site_index.htm_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/Site_index.htm) _http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2) Another excellent site for the country with a lot of infro from this area of Ireland is: _http://www.from-ireland.net/_ (http://www.from-ireland.net/) Others may be able to give you additional information. Maureen N ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hi Kate and List In my hunt for my Dermody family I have come across some interesting stuff on my Dwyer connection. I have found an article in Australia that gives an extract of one William Dwyer's memoirs. In it he states he was born c 1825 in Green St Kilkenny and his parents were Patrick Dwyer and Bridget Byrnes. He was sent to school at Chapel Lane Kilkenny that was run by his uncle. Stated also was that he married Anastasia Dermody (my GGGgrandmothers sister Maria) just before they set sail to Australia in 1856. He was a teacher at the Kilkenny National School around 1853-1855. My dilemma is that Kilkenny City had both streets mentioned and so did the townland of Callan just outside Kilkenny City. William also had brothers Timothy and Denis and a sister called Catherine who also came out to Australia with the help of William as well as his parents Patrick and Bridget, he only states that there were others left behind. Wondering if anyone has come across this family in their searches. Anastasia's parents were Kyrian Dermody and Mary Cody, Kyrian had died by the year 1863 and Mary had gone to the USA by that time as well, Maria is the only known sibling that we have but I am sure there must have been others as Mary would not have gone to the USA on her own. Hoping someone can help with this one. Rick

Maureen, What papers do you have one your GGGrandfather. His Name? Wife? Est. on Birth date? Anything else. Kate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maureen Lenzo" <lenzo_m1@msn.com> To: <IRL-KILKENNY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:46 PM Subject: [KILKENNY] Searching Help needed > Hello, perhaps some kind soul could help me out a little. > > > > I know my GGGandfather came from Kilkenny Co. but know little more. Where > would anyone suggest I start? I am at a loss, the last name is spelled in > so > many different ways I get confused. > > > > But I am determined to find something linking me to Ireland other than the > the few papers I have on him. > > > > Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thank You ever so much > > Maureen > > ====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== > Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Maureen, I am looking for my husbands grt Grandad James Welsh born about 1836 in Ireland his father was also called James Welsh don't know mothers name both James were Coal miners. James Junior came to england in the late 1850 He married a Mary Robinson/robertson in Stoke on trent staffordshire in 1861 then moved to Slamannon in stirlingshire and raised a family they had about 6 or 8 children, he carried on being a Coalminer. I hope you can help us. we believed he was born in kilkenny or carlow, because of being a Coalminers but could be somewhere else (where there were Coalmines) regards beryl welsh

Maureen, When did your GGGrandfather emmigrate from Ireland? To where? Was he married at that time? Did he have children at that time? These are very important questions which will give a clue as to where to look for information. Also, how was the family name (and its variations) spelled. What was his first name? If you can give us as much of the above information as you have, we can probably give you some suggestions how to proceed. Maureen N ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

In a message dated 10/31/2007 7:47:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lenzo_m1@msn.com writes: I know my GGGandfather came from Kilkenny Co. but know little more. Where would anyone suggest I start? I am at a loss, the last name is spelled in so many different ways I get confused. Maureen, You're very welcome to the group. Tell us whatever you know, perhaps the various members of the list can add to it. Jack Langton ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hello, perhaps some kind soul could help me out a little. I know my GGGandfather came from Kilkenny Co. but know little more. Where would anyone suggest I start? I am at a loss, the last name is spelled in so many different ways I get confused. But I am determined to find something linking me to Ireland other than the the few papers I have on him. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thank You ever so much Maureen

Hi Mike, Thanks for your generous help. Mary BREEN was born c1859, Callan, KILK. Her father was John BREEN and I don't have her mothers name. She had an older sister Bridget who stayed in Ireland, and other siblings I no names for. Mary died in Australia in 1935. I know this is sketchy but its all I have. Thanks Jannette David R Martin Mobile: 0428 992336 David Email Address david@littlepond.net.au Jannette Email Address jannette@littlepond.net.au Please Note :- martin60@bigpond.net.au and martind6@bigpond.net.au will no longer operate at some point in the future -----Original Message----- From: irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Saunders Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2007 3:17 AM To: irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] New in Archives (IGP) Jannette, My Saunders family originates in Co. Kilkenny. I have found their baptismal records in the Callan and Windgap parish records. The Breen family is not directly related to me, but at some Breens have been found living near and working with the Saunders family in both Wisconsin and Iowa. I have the Callan parish records on loan at my local FHC. If you can give me an approximate date of birth for Mary Breen I will check the records the next time I visit the FHC. Mike Saunders Universal City, TX On 10/23/07, David & Jannette <martin60@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > Hi Ron, > My Gt Grandmother was Mary BREEN who came to Australia in 1879. It says > on > her marriage cert she was born in Callan, Kilkenny, she had a sister named > Bridget who remained in Ireland and other siblings(apparently about 5 or > six > according to my now deceased Grandmother), her fathers name was John, and > that unfortunately is all I have. > Jannette > Perth > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ron Norton > Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 4:54 PM > To: irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] New in Archives (IGP) > > Hi Janette, > Do you have any Breen connections in Australia, from County Tipperary, > Ireland? > > Ron Norton > ronn007@optusnet.com.au > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David & Jannette" <martin60@bigpond.net.au> > To: <khanley@keyisp.com>; <irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:11 PM > Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] New in Archives (IGP) > > > ====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== > Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== > Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Janette, We may have a connection and we may not. My wife is very closely connected to a John Breen who came from Clonoulty in County Tipperary. He arrived in Australia as a convict in 1836 to serve seven years for manslaughter. If we can connect him with your grandmother's John Breen then I have miles of material on the family. Kilkenny and Tipperary are adjoining counties so the possibilities are strong. If you contact me off list I will send you a file which will give you an insight into our John Breen. If you think there is a connection I will find more info for you. Good luck. Ron Norton. ronn007@optusnet.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Jannette" <martin60@bigpond.net.au> To: <irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] New in Archives (IGP) > Hi Ron, > My Gt Grandmother was Mary BREEN who came to Australia in 1879. It says > on > her marriage cert she was born in Callan, Kilkenny, she had a sister named > Bridget who remained in Ireland and other siblings(apparently about 5 or > six > according to my now deceased Grandmother), her fathers name was John, and > that unfortunately is all I have. > Jannette > Perth > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ron Norton > Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 4:54 PM > To: irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] New in Archives (IGP) > > Hi Janette, > Do you have any Breen connections in Australia, from County Tipperary, > Ireland? > > Ron Norton > ronn007@optusnet.com.au > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David & Jannette" <martin60@bigpond.net.au> > To: <khanley@keyisp.com>; <irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:11 PM > Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] New in Archives (IGP) > > > ====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== > Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== > Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.6/1086 - Release Date: > 22/10/2007 7:57 PM > >

Hi Janette, Do you have any Breen connections in Australia, from County Tipperary, Ireland? Ron Norton ronn007@optusnet.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Jannette" <martin60@bigpond.net.au> To: <khanley@keyisp.com>; <irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] New in Archives (IGP)

Hi Ron, My Gt Grandmother was Mary BREEN who came to Australia in 1879. It says on her marriage cert she was born in Callan, Kilkenny, she had a sister named Bridget who remained in Ireland and other siblings(apparently about 5 or six according to my now deceased Grandmother), her fathers name was John, and that unfortunately is all I have. Jannette Perth -----Original Message----- From: irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ron Norton Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 4:54 PM To: irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] New in Archives (IGP) Hi Janette, Do you have any Breen connections in Australia, from County Tipperary, Ireland? Ron Norton ronn007@optusnet.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "David & Jannette" <martin60@bigpond.net.au> To: <khanley@keyisp.com>; <irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] New in Archives (IGP) ====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kate, Just reading your email to Ron. I am trying to track down (with much frustration) my BREEN relatives who were around Callan in Kilkenny. Did you happen by any chance to have seen any with this name? Thanks Jannette Australia -----Original Message----- From: irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kate Hanley Sent: Monday, 22 October 2007 8:46 PM To: irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] New in Archives (IGP) Hi Ron, I don't seem to have any Ballyhale tombstones, but I have a Ballyhall...in Callan, Kilkenny. This is all I have ...don't know the names you are searching...so this is all of them in that townland or even a remote link - i.e. "Australia" .. Kate Fahey No. 24 1842 Ballyhall In memory of John Fahey of Ballyhall who died 21 July 1842, aged 63 yrs. Also his wife Mary Fahey who died 12 Oct. 1840, aged 60 yrs. His son James Fahey died 13 July 1837. Aged 25 yrs. His son Patrick died 13 April 1838, aged 29 yrs and his son Richard Fahey who died 10 Nov. 1844, aged 26 yrs. Also his daughter Catherine Kerney, alias Fahey, who died 20 Feb. 1846, aged 43 years. Erected by his son, William Fahey. Requiescant in pace. Kerney No. 24 1846 Ballyhall 36. (Celtic Cross - abt 8ft tall) Erected by Anastatia Thornley, nee Burke, Mel bourne Australia in memory of her Parents Patrick Burke, Kylvehagh Died 14th June 1877 aged 100 years Judith Burke nee Cuddihy died 1st Jan 1835 aged 42 years. Her sister Mary Burke died 11th March 1851 aged 30 years. Bridget Burke died 7thApril 1852 aged 19 years. Her brothers Edward Burke Died 20th May aged 21 years, John Burke died 7th Feb 1895 aged 68 years Patrick Burke who died young R.I.P. Left Side of Stone: Also her grandparents Michael Burke who died 4th May 1821, Aged 84 years Mary Burke nee Stapleton. died 10th Feb 1817 aged 49 years. Thornley No. 36 Melbourne, Australia No.23 Here lies the body of Ally Lanigan alias Brea, wife of William Lanigan of Newtown-Baker, who deceased May ye 20th 1759 aged 37 yrs and two of her children. (sunburst & IHS & rest in low relief) No.23A In memory of my loved ones, grandmother Katherine Kelly, died 1925 and father Martin Kelly died 1930, of West St. Callan. Peace and joy eternal. Erected by Sr. Eileen Kelly, Australia and Lynch family, Mallardstown. I am the resurrection and the life. (new stone) No. 141 In loving memory of Hannah Laffin, West St., Callan, who died 19th of February 1917. Her father Michael Laffin who died 11th of July 1858. Her brother Mathew Laffin who died in Australia 19th of March 1916. Also her mother Johanna Laffin died 5th of April 1922 and her sister Maria Laffin died 15th April 1940. (sunburst & 2 urns) Kelly No.23A 1925 West Street, Callan and Australia No.23A In memory of my loved ones, grandmother Katherine Kelly, died 1925 and father Martin Kelly died 1930, of West St. Callan. Peace and joy eternal. Erected by Sr. Eileen Kelly, Australia and Lynch family, Mallardstown. "I am the resurrection and the life" ====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jannette, My Saunders family originates in Co. Kilkenny. I have found their baptismal records in the Callan and Windgap parish records. The Breen family is not directly related to me, but at some Breens have been found living near and working with the Saunders family in both Wisconsin and Iowa. I have the Callan parish records on loan at my local FHC. If you can give me an approximate date of birth for Mary Breen I will check the records the next time I visit the FHC. Mike Saunders Universal City, TX On 10/23/07, David & Jannette <martin60@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > > Hi Ron, > My Gt Grandmother was Mary BREEN who came to Australia in 1879. It says > on > her marriage cert she was born in Callan, Kilkenny, she had a sister named > Bridget who remained in Ireland and other siblings(apparently about 5 or > six > according to my now deceased Grandmother), her fathers name was John, and > that unfortunately is all I have. > Jannette > Perth > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-kilkenny-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ron Norton > Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2007 4:54 PM > To: irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] New in Archives (IGP) > > Hi Janette, > Do you have any Breen connections in Australia, from County Tipperary, > Ireland? > > Ron Norton > ronn007@optusnet.com.au > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David & Jannette" <martin60@bigpond.net.au> > To: <khanley@keyisp.com>; <irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:11 PM > Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] New in Archives (IGP) > > > ====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== > Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List==== > Add/check your County Kilkenny surname at: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Kilkenny/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KILKENNY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you for that Kate. No doubt you are right in assuming that Ballyhale is in fact Ballyhall. I have, in all probability, incorrectly transcribed some information was sent to me. My connections with Ballyhall are Grant and Anderson. But I suspect there is a connection with the Burke (and possibly Stapleton) inscriptions you have listed. There was a marriage in Australia between John Grant and Mary Anne Burke whose father was Patrick Burke with known strong Irish connections that I have been unable to confirm. Maybe these records go some way towards a solution. Thank you again. Your help is much appreciated. Ron Norton Canberra Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate Hanley" <khanley@keyisp.com> To: <irl-kilkenny@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] New in Archives (IGP) > Hi Ron, > I don't seem to have any Ballyhale tombstones, but I have a Ballyhall...in > Callan, Kilkenny. > This is all I have ...don't know the names you are searching...so this is > all of > them in that townland or even a remote link - i.e. "Australia" .. > Kate

Ron, There is information on those buried at Ballyhale, Co. Kilkenny, online. Jane Lyons from the Y-IRL yahoogroups geneology list took quite a few pics of some of the gravestones. I don't see the names you mentioned, but it is worth a look. The link below will take you to her blog. _http://janesirishplace.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!DCF7B856F14D9024!1208.entry?_ c=BlogPart_ (http://janesirishplace.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!DCF7B856F14D9024!1208.entry?_c=BlogPart) Maureen N ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hi Ron, I don't seem to have any Ballyhale tombstones, but I have a Ballyhall...in Callan, Kilkenny. This is all I have ...don't know the names you are searching...so this is all of them in that townland or even a remote link - i.e. "Australia" .. Kate Fahey No. 24 1842 Ballyhall In memory of John Fahey of Ballyhall who died 21 July 1842, aged 63 yrs. Also his wife Mary Fahey who died 12 Oct. 1840, aged 60 yrs. His son James Fahey died 13 July 1837. Aged 25 yrs. His son Patrick died 13 April 1838, aged 29 yrs and his son Richard Fahey who died 10 Nov. 1844, aged 26 yrs. Also his daughter Catherine Kerney, alias Fahey, who died 20 Feb. 1846, aged 43 years. Erected by his son, William Fahey. Requiescant in pace. Kerney No. 24 1846 Ballyhall 36. (Celtic Cross - abt 8ft tall) Erected by Anastatia Thornley, nee Burke, Mel bourne Australia in memory of her Parents Patrick Burke, Kylvehagh Died 14th June 1877 aged 100 years Judith Burke nee Cuddihy died 1st Jan 1835 aged 42 years. Her sister Mary Burke died 11th March 1851 aged 30 years. Bridget Burke died 7thApril 1852 aged 19 years. Her brothers Edward Burke Died 20th May aged 21 years, John Burke died 7th Feb 1895 aged 68 years Patrick Burke who died young R.I.P. Left Side of Stone: Also her grandparents Michael Burke who died 4th May 1821, Aged 84 years Mary Burke nee Stapleton. died 10th Feb 1817 aged 49 years. Thornley No. 36 Melbourne, Australia No.23 Here lies the body of Ally Lanigan alias Brea, wife of William Lanigan of Newtown-Baker, who deceased May ye 20th 1759 aged 37 yrs and two of her children. (sunburst & IHS & rest in low relief) No.23A In memory of my loved ones, grandmother Katherine Kelly, died 1925 and father Martin Kelly died 1930, of West St. Callan. Peace and joy eternal. Erected by Sr. Eileen Kelly, Australia and Lynch family, Mallardstown. I am the resurrection and the life. (new stone) No. 141 In loving memory of Hannah Laffin, West St., Callan, who died 19th of February 1917. Her father Michael Laffin who died 11th of July 1858. Her brother Mathew Laffin who died in Australia 19th of March 1916. Also her mother Johanna Laffin died 5th of April 1922 and her sister Maria Laffin died 15th April 1940. (sunburst & 2 urns) Kelly No.23A 1925 West Street, Callan and Australia No.23A In memory of my loved ones, grandmother Katherine Kelly, died 1925 and father Martin Kelly died 1930, of West St. Callan. Peace and joy eternal. Erected by Sr. Eileen Kelly, Australia and Lynch family, Mallardstown. "I am the resurrection and the life"

Hi Christina and other listers. Would anyone know if it is possible to access memorial lists from any of the following areas? Kilbeacon Cemetery in Mullinavat Knockmoylan, Mullinavat Lukeswell Rosboultra Ballyhale. Thank you. Ron Norton Canberra, Australia ronn007@optusnet.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <filidh@carolina.rr.com> To: <irl-kilkenny-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:42 PM Subject: [KILKENNY] New in Archives (IGP) > This week we have added Memorials from Muckalee Old Churchyard, Barony of > Fassardinan.

This week we have added Memorials from Muckalee Old Churchyard, Barony of Fassardinan. This is from Journal of the Association for the Preservation of the Memorials of the Dead in Ireland Microfilm of original published: Dublin: The Association, v 3, 1897. To view go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlarchive/ Click on KILKENNY and cemetery. There is also a site search engine which you can limit to Kilkenny. We are glad to add transcriptions you may have from your research. That is what we are all about. :) Headstone photos welcome too. Thanks, Christina Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives

Jack, et. al. Been having trouble at the Villanova site searching through the McGarrity and other collections. When I put in Castlecomer as a keyword, I am getting a blank page in return. Does that mean no hits for Castlecomer, or Kilkenny, if you know? If you are getting hits from that method, maybe it is a computer problem.I have been having difficulties with the EPPI site also. Am thinking it is a Microsoft Vista problem. On a general Irish interest note, some of the county heritage centres have begun to put their databases online. I know of three so far--Armagh, North Tipperary, and part of Dublin (Swords). The search function is free, but record retrieval is charged per record. I believe some of these counties have records that cross county lines because I have found some of my Co. Tyrone ancestors in the Armagh database. I am exploring the Tipperary site as well for some of my Co. Kilkenny names. So far, I find this method so much more successful than commissioning research, as I can both direct my own research and also explore. It is a great value for the money, also, although in the end, I suspect I will end up paying more to the centres because I simply cannot resist the urge to hit the "pay" button to see a particular record. LOL I would think this would be a very lucrative move for the research centres. I wish all the heritage centres would follow! Anyone know if the Kilkenny Arch. Soc. has any plans to do so? http://www.irish-roots.net/ Debbie ___________________________________________ Deborah Large Fox www.deborahlarge.com ___________________________________________

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