Hi All, I am trying to help a friend on her ancestors. She has limited information. ARTHUR JAMES SMITH & LILIAN KATE WAKEFIELD where the parents names on her Mothers birth certificate it is believed they were both born in ENGLAND and they had the following children but the information is limited. 1. MARGARET SMITH born 13/09/1930 Milford Carlow and she married in Hampstead England 06/09/1951 2. JIMMY SMITH unknown when he was born who married a lady named Mary and they are apparently still alive in Ireland. 3. PATRICK SMITH unknown when he was born also known as PATSY 4. GEOFFREY SMITH unknown when he was born 5. CHRISTINA SMITH unknown when she was born but she is also known as SISSY 6. JEAN SMITH unknown when she was born but she died when she was 21 years old. If any one is researching these names and can help it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Robyn New Zealand --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.534 / Virus Database: 329 - Release Date: 31-Oct-03

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Elliott Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3216 Message Board Post: I am trying to find details of my g-grandmother Rachel Elliott b c1853 Kilkenny, father Andrew Elliott possible sister Jane Elliott. I have found from 'Ireland.com' that there were 5 Elliott households at about that time in these parishes: Attanagh (1) Rathaspick (2) Rathkieran (2) Is there anyway I can find more details of these households? Any other Kilkenny Elliotts known?

Boy! That was a quick respons - about 5/10 minutes. Almost as quick as telephone. Thanks. Betty >From: Pat Connors <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] Griffiths Valuations >Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 20:27:01 -0800 > >>Can you tell me if the individuals on the list are "heads of household" or >>that plus other occupants of the house at the time the index was formed? > > >The GV only listed head of households, sorry to say. > >-- >Pat Connors, Sacramento CA >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com >Professional Genealogy Research >All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002 > > > > > > >==== IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List ==== >NETSCAPE questions or expertise???? >Join the Netscape mailing list for help or to give help... >mailto:[email protected] >Put "subscribe" (without quotes) in message and put nothing in the subject. > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Add MSN 8 Internet Software to your current Internet access and enjoy patented spam control and more. Get two months FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/byoa

Dear Pat, Thank you so much for the material you sent me. So grateful. Can you tell me if the individuals on the list are "heads of household" or that plus other occupants of the house at the time the index was formed? Betty [email protected] >From: Pat Connors <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] Griffiths Valuations >Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 08:11:02 -0800 > >Here are all the Donnelly's that came up for Co. Kilkenny: >Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1849-50 > Donnelly, Anne County : Kilkenny > Parish : Rathcoole > Location : Knocknaguppoge >Donnelly, Archibald County : Kilkenny > Parish : Kilmanagh > Location : Pottlerath >Donnelly, Edmond County : Kilkenny > Parish : Kells > Location : Goodwinsgarden >Donnelly, Edmund County : Kilkenny > Parish : Kilmadum > Location : Knockshanbally >Donnelly, Edward County : Kilkenny > Parish : Kells > Location : Kells Town of Kells >Donnelly, James County : Kilkenny > Parish : Coolcraheen > Location : Clintstown >Donnelly, James County : Kilkenny > Parish : Kells > Location : Goodwinsgarden >Donnelly, James County : Kilkenny > Parish : Kells > Location : Kells >Donnelly, James County : Kilkenny > Parish : Rathcoole > Location : Knocknaguppoge >Donnelly, James County : Kilkenny > Parish : Rathcoole > Location : Tullowbrin >Donnelly, James County : Kilkenny > Parish : Woolengrange > Location : Rathduff >Donnelly, John County : Kilkenny > Parish : Coolcraheen > Location : Swiftsheath >Donnelly, John County : Kilkenny > Parish : Kilmadum > Location : Knockshanbally >Donnelly, John County : Kilkenny > Parish : Knocktopher > Location : Danesrath >Donnelly, John County : Kilkenny > Parish : Rathcoole > Location : Tullowbrin >Donnelly, John County : Kilkenny > Parish : St. Patricks > Location : Deansground/Patrick Street Upper >Donnelly, John, Sr. County : Kilkenny > Parish : Rathcoole > Location : Tullowbrin >Donnelly, Kieran County : Kilkenny > Parish : St. Canices > Location : Bonnetstown >Donnelly, Mary County : Kilkenny > Parish : Thomastown > Location : T/Thomastown/Chapel Lane >Donnelly, Michael County : Kilkenny > Parish : Coolcraheen > Location : Clintstown >Donnelly, Michael County : Kilkenny > Parish : Rathcoole > Location : Tullowbrin >Donnelly, P. County : Kilkenny > Parish : St. Canices > Location : Lyons/Kennyswell Street >Donnelly, Patrick County : Kilkenny > Parish : Fiddown > Location : Jamestown >Donnelly, Patrick County : Kilkenny > Parish : Pollrone > Location : T/Mooncoin/Convent Street >Donnelly, Patrick County : Kilkenny > Parish : St. Canices > Location : Gardens/Water Barrack >Donnelly, Patrick County : Kilkenny > Parish : St. Canices > Location : Marnellsmeadows/Walkin Street Upper >Donnelly, Patrick County : Kilkenny > Parish : Tiscoffin > Location : Reevanagh >Donnelly, Patrick County : Kilkenny > Parish : Treadingstown > Location : Revanagh >Donnelly, Richard County : Kilkenny > Parish : Thomastown > Location : T/Thomastown/The Mall >Donnelly, Roger County : Kilkenny > Parish : St. Canices > Location : Walkinslough/Callan Road >Donnelly, Thomas County : Kilkenny > Parish : Kells > Location : Goodwinsgarden >Donnelly, Thomas County : Kilkenny > Parish : Kells > Location : Kells >Donnelly, Thomas, Sr. County : Kilkenny > Parish : Rathcoole > Location : Tullowbrin >Donnelly, Walter County : Kilkenny > Parish : Outrath > Location : Grevine West >Donnelly, William County : Kilkenny > Parish : Kilmanagh > Location : Banse Glebe >Donnelly, William County : Kilkenny > Parish : Lismateige > Location : Lismateige > > >-- >Pat Connors, Sacramento CA >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com >Professional Genealogy Research >All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002 > > > > > > >==== IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List ==== >***Join a mailing list with 24-7 ROLL CALLS*** >Rootsweb's only totally Irish Roll Calls mailing list... >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS.html > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Concerned that messages may bounce because your Hotmail account has exceeded its 2MB storage limit? Get Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es

> Can you tell me if the individuals on the list are "heads of > household" or that plus other occupants of the house at the time the > index was formed? The GV only listed head of households, sorry to say. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

Here are all the Donnelly's that came up for Co. Kilkenny: Index to Griffith's Valuation of Ireland, 1849-50 Donnelly, Anne County : Kilkenny Parish : Rathcoole Location : Knocknaguppoge Donnelly, Archibald County : Kilkenny Parish : Kilmanagh Location : Pottlerath Donnelly, Edmond County : Kilkenny Parish : Kells Location : Goodwinsgarden Donnelly, Edmund County : Kilkenny Parish : Kilmadum Location : Knockshanbally Donnelly, Edward County : Kilkenny Parish : Kells Location : Kells Town of Kells Donnelly, James County : Kilkenny Parish : Coolcraheen Location : Clintstown Donnelly, James County : Kilkenny Parish : Kells Location : Goodwinsgarden Donnelly, James County : Kilkenny Parish : Kells Location : Kells Donnelly, James County : Kilkenny Parish : Rathcoole Location : Knocknaguppoge Donnelly, James County : Kilkenny Parish : Rathcoole Location : Tullowbrin Donnelly, James County : Kilkenny Parish : Woolengrange Location : Rathduff Donnelly, John County : Kilkenny Parish : Coolcraheen Location : Swiftsheath Donnelly, John County : Kilkenny Parish : Kilmadum Location : Knockshanbally Donnelly, John County : Kilkenny Parish : Knocktopher Location : Danesrath Donnelly, John County : Kilkenny Parish : Rathcoole Location : Tullowbrin Donnelly, John County : Kilkenny Parish : St. Patricks Location : Deansground/Patrick Street Upper Donnelly, John, Sr. County : Kilkenny Parish : Rathcoole Location : Tullowbrin Donnelly, Kieran County : Kilkenny Parish : St. Canices Location : Bonnetstown Donnelly, Mary County : Kilkenny Parish : Thomastown Location : T/Thomastown/Chapel Lane Donnelly, Michael County : Kilkenny Parish : Coolcraheen Location : Clintstown Donnelly, Michael County : Kilkenny Parish : Rathcoole Location : Tullowbrin Donnelly, P. County : Kilkenny Parish : St. Canices Location : Lyons/Kennyswell Street Donnelly, Patrick County : Kilkenny Parish : Fiddown Location : Jamestown Donnelly, Patrick County : Kilkenny Parish : Pollrone Location : T/Mooncoin/Convent Street Donnelly, Patrick County : Kilkenny Parish : St. Canices Location : Gardens/Water Barrack Donnelly, Patrick County : Kilkenny Parish : St. Canices Location : Marnellsmeadows/Walkin Street Upper Donnelly, Patrick County : Kilkenny Parish : Tiscoffin Location : Reevanagh Donnelly, Patrick County : Kilkenny Parish : Treadingstown Location : Revanagh Donnelly, Richard County : Kilkenny Parish : Thomastown Location : T/Thomastown/The Mall Donnelly, Roger County : Kilkenny Parish : St. Canices Location : Walkinslough/Callan Road Donnelly, Thomas County : Kilkenny Parish : Kells Location : Goodwinsgarden Donnelly, Thomas County : Kilkenny Parish : Kells Location : Kells Donnelly, Thomas, Sr. County : Kilkenny Parish : Rathcoole Location : Tullowbrin Donnelly, Walter County : Kilkenny Parish : Outrath Location : Grevine West Donnelly, William County : Kilkenny Parish : Kilmanagh Location : Banse Glebe Donnelly, William County : Kilkenny Parish : Lismateige Location : Lismateige -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

Dear Pat, Could you do a look up for me when you have the time? Martin DONNELLY Knocknaguppoge or Tullowbrin, Rathcoole Civil Parish, Muckalee RC Parish, Gowran Barony, Co Kilkenny. Father Patt/Patrick DONNELLY in same two places. Thank you so much. Betty Smith [email protected] >From: Pat Connors <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] Griffiths Valuations >Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:07:02 -0800 > >As Robyn Paterson stated: > >>I am wondering if any one has an index for the above that could do a look >>up for me. >> >What names are you looking for and what civil parish? > >-- >Pat Connors, Sacramento CA >http://www.connorsgenealogy.com >Professional Genealogy Research >All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002 > > > > > > >==== IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List ==== >Do you have Irish ancestors who landed, lived or passed through NY State? >Join a new list related to the history, culture and geneology of the Irish >in NY >mailto:[email protected]?body=subscribe > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ Never get a busy signal because you are always connected with high-speed Internet access. Click here to comparison-shop providers. https://broadband.msn.com

Hi All, I am wondering if any one has an index for the above that could do a look up for me. Robyn New Zealand --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 27-Oct-03

Hi All, I am hoping sks may have an index for the 1901 & 1911 census that can do a look up for me on the above couple which will hopefully help out on which film to order through the LDS. I am trying to help a friend out in tracing her ancestors unfortunately all she knows is her mother Margaret was born 13/09/1930 Milford County Carlow to ARTHUR JAMES SMITH & LILIAN KATE WAKEFIELD according to the birth certificate and she married 06/09/1951 in Hampstead England Thomas Kevin Mullane who born 30/06/1930 in Mallow Doneraile Cork Any help on finding details on Thomas Mullane's father ARTHUR JAMES SMITH & mother LILIAN KATE WAKEFIELD would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Robyn New Zealand --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 27-Oct-03

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: DeLaney, Doheny, Wixon/Wixson, Bond, Jackson,Cosgrove, McCormick, Newell, Smith Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/1768.2264.2302.2301.1.1.1 Message Board Post: We were at St. Brendan's then. I didn't see a name on the church, and seeing Sacred Heart School just down the road, I assumed the church was Sacred Heart. No one in the house adjacent, I assumed to be the rectory. I did find Michael Delany in the cemetery. I think he is the One Who Stayed Behind. Daniel David Delaney is the One Who Went Over, and Richard is the brother that Went Over and Returned. Is this your line? I am seeking to verify the parents of Daniel David Delaney, and his sister Bridget Delaney Flynn. Her tombstone said Muckalee. His said Kilmadum. That's how I came to visit Muckalee & Kilmadum. There was the vine covered corner of a church in a pasture of Muckalee, adjacent to a very overgrown cemetery. Do you know anything about that one? Was that St. Dinnish (St.Denis)? I do hope someone, long ago, recorded those stones. I visited New Ross, and the coffin ship replica the Dunbrody. I went to the Agriculture museum in Wexford to see the potato famine e! xhibit. I went to Cobh to see the famine ship exhibit there. It was heartbreaking. It is a wonder any of us are here. But, best of all I walked the land of my ancestors.

I take it that you are referring to Irish records. The civil registers have been filmed and available at the LDS libraries. Check the library catalogue on the internet . Shirley Any one known of ways to get birth records for someone born around 1879 ish. Or even > death records or obits around 1925. Appreciate any help. > > Michelle > > > ==== IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List ==== > To unsub from list, to search archives of list, or to change your type of subscription: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-KILKENNY.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > This message was sent using Wave Mail. www.wave.co.nz

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/1590.1807.2 Message Board Post: Hello! Funny, I have a cousin in Dublin by the name of Ilona Blunden. I don't suppose..........?? In fact I came to visit Bernadette and Dermot (Illonas' mum and dad) back in the early to mid 80's and had the greatest time. My family and I live in the U.S. Mary Katherine [email protected]

As Robyn Paterson stated: >I am wondering if any one has an index for the above that could do a look up for me. > What names are you looking for and what civil parish? -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/1768.2264.2302.2301.1.1 Message Board Post: There are three Catholic churches in Muckalee Parish: St Brendan's, one in Coon and a chapel. St Brendan's is the head one. They are in the diocese of Ossory. I found this information online. In July, I went to mass at St Brendan's. It's on a hill. There is a cemetery adjacent to the church. Betty Smith [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: DeLaney, Doheny, Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/1768.2264.2302.2301.1 Message Board Post: Where was St. Canice's located? I am looking for Catholic churches in Kilmadum & Muckalee. There was just the corner of one, vine-covered, in a pasture, near the resevoir, in Muckalee. Kilmadum was on the hill overlooking. This would be in the 1840's to the 1870's.

Does anyone have information on the following individuals? Thomas Roe b. Ireland c. 1796 married Sarah Poole b. Dec 23, 1801, Coon townlands, dau. of Thomas Poole (1750-Jan 3, 1849) and Jane Smith d. Oct 12, 1811 in Coon townlands. Thomas Poole was the Dean of Leinster High School. Thomas and Sarah Roe emigrated to Canada bet. 1832 and 1836. John Roe b. Ireland c. 1805, brother of Thomas Roe, married Eliza Poole (1808-1868), sister of Sarah Poole. John and Eliza and their eight sons emigrated to Canada abt. 1850 after the death of her father Thomas Poole. Andrew Kidd b. Coon or Coolcullen in 1769 - son of Ralph Kidd Jr (d. 1798 at Battle of Castlecomer) - married Jane Kilfoyle, b. abt. 1779) abt. 1797, had eight children. The oldest child, John married Mary Garland, daughter of John Garland and Ellinor Butler. John and Mary and the Garland family emigrated to Canada in 1819. Andrew and Jane Kidd and the remaining seven children remained in Coon townlands until they emigrated with their second child, Mary (b.1801) and her husband John Gleeson (b. 1783) of Killinane Parish. The emigration took place in 1831-32. PS I have seen The Story of the Derry and have found several fundamental flaws in Dr. Kidd's family history which his cousin James Kidd Simpson had better data for.

I have updated the Parish History Books website. You can find the link on the Irish Books Discussion Mailing List website at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/ All counties are covered and many books have Lookup Volunteers. If you know of any books that are not on the list, there is a form on the website where you can enter the information. If you see a book that you have and would like to volunteer to do lookups on it, you can also use the form. In case you don't know about the parish history books, they are books printed in the area and they mostly include the history of the parish, but some actually have the Tithes Applotment and Griffith Valuation records for the area, and some have census records. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3126.1.1 Message Board Post: Plenty of children but no Francis. But there are other Lawlor families from that area,

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Manogue, Collins, Crowley, Coughlin Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3215 Message Board Post: Hi all, Has anyone out there ever come across any Manogue's? They are my biggest brick wall. Other than finding them on US census in Cincinnati, I have virtually no information on them, other than a hand written notation mentioning that Thomas Manogue was born around 1831 in Kilkenny, and that he came to the States as a child. His father was Patrick, mother Ellen. (on death certificate) Also have a John, Michael, Mary and Joseph, but am still piecing together their relationship. Have found them spelled Manough, Menough, Menogue and Manock. I would appreciate any bone you can throw me! Thanks, Karen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: KERWIN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3214 Message Board Post: Looking for the family of and any info on our Kerwin's. James Kerwin & Ellen Bergin both born in Ireland They had at least 6 children according to an obit: married probably around 1817-1818. Johanna Kerwin b abt 1819 USA marr Damery d 1912 IL USA Lawrence Kerwin b abt 1831 USA m Mary Cahill d 1908 IL Mary Kerwin b 1836 USA m Daniel Doyle d 1914 IL James Kerwin b abt 1827 USA ???? ???? ???? maybe John Ann Kerwin b abt 1829 USA ???? Maybe a niece. Lawrence, James & Ann came from Liverpool to New York 1850 on the ship Shannon. Lawrence came to Illinois. Johanna & Mary came over and came to IL. We don't know where James or Ann went to yet. We are still looking for the others. If anyone knows of this family in Ireland or USA, please contact me....:-) Thanks Sally [email protected]