Hi Donna, My RYAN's came from both Kilkenny and Cork. My great-grandfather was James Joseph Ryan, born in 1880 in Kilkenny. He came to America (Boston) and settled south in the Bronx, NY where he married Johannah Mary Murphy of Cork, born in 1879. I don't know much about them because I am the only one left alive of my family, so have no one to ask questions of. I know the names of the children they had here in NY, but I do not know if and why they may have left their own loved ones in Ireland. I could really use some help if I knew where to get it, and how to get started on it. I know most of the records are still over there in Ireland, but who to ask?? Thanks, Cathy in Tampa Ongoing Surname Searches as of 10/2003 A U S T I N, D R I S C O L L, F U L L E R, K O Z I S K I, K U P E C Z, M C L E N D O N, M U R P H Y, N A G L E, R U P P E R T, R Y A N, S T E P H E N S, W I L L I A M S, W A L L A

Hi Donna, My RYAN's came from both Kilkenny and Cork. My great-grandfather was James Joseph Ryan, born in 1880 in Kilkenny. He came to America (Boston) and settled south in the Bronx, NY where he married Johannah Mary Murphy of Cork, born in 1879. I don't know much about them because I am the only one left alive of my family, so have no one to ask questions of. I know the names of the children they had here in NY, but I do not know if and why they may have left their own loved ones in Ireland. I could really use some help if I knew where to get it, and how to get started on it. I know most of the records are still over there in Ireland, but who to ask?? Thanks, Cathy in Tampa Ongoing Surname Searches as of 10/2003 A U S T I N, D R I S C O L L, F U L L E R, K O Z I S K I, K U P E C Z, M C L E N D O N, M U R P H Y, N A G L E, R U P P E R T, R Y A N, S T E P H E N S, W I L L I A M S, W A L L A

Sorry Cathy I can't help you further. I listed what the book has, I have no additional information. Maryann [email protected] wrote: > > Hi Maryanne, > My RYAN's are from Graig-na-Manach, and my g-grandfather's name is James > Joseph. Is there anything I can do to find out if it is he who is on your list? > I have names and dates of his children, etc.. but I need a shove in the right > direction. > > Thanks, > Cathy in Tampa > > Ongoing Surname Searches as of 10/2003 > > A U S T I N, D R I S C O L L, F U L L E R, K O Z I S K I, K U P E C Z, > M C L E N D O N, M U R P H Y, N A G L E, R U P P E R T, R Y A N, > S T E P H E N S, W I L L I A M S, W A L L A > > ==== IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List ==== > ***Join a mailing list with 24-7 ROLL CALLS*** > Rootsweb's first totally Irish Roll Calls mailing list... > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi Maryanne, My RYAN's are from Graig-na-Manach, and my g-grandfather's name is James Joseph. Is there anything I can do to find out if it is he who is on your list? I have names and dates of his children, etc.. but I need a shove in the right direction. Thanks, Cathy in Tampa Ongoing Surname Searches as of 10/2003 A U S T I N, D R I S C O L L, F U L L E R, K O Z I S K I, K U P E C Z, M C L E N D O N, M U R P H Y, N A G L E, R U P P E R T, R Y A N, S T E P H E N S, W I L L I A M S, W A L L A

This may or may not be helpful. In the book "Irish Land Owners of 1876" there is a James Ryan listed with the address Foulksrath Castle, Kilkenny. I don't know if this is the same or different than the castle in Kilkenny City, maybe some of the other listers will know. Here is a list of all the Ryan's for Kilkenny County in 1876 that owned land, their home address (not necessarily the same as land), and the size and value of the property. "L" is for pounds, "s" is for shillings in the value. Ryan, Henry, Westcourt, Callan, 2 acres, 3 L 5 s Ryan, James, Foulksrath Castle, Kilkenny, 573 acres, 408 L 10 s Ryan, John, Castlecomer, Co. Kilkenny, 252 acres, 219 L 5 s Ryan, John, Damerstown, W., Castlecomer, 42 acres, 27 L Ryan, Mrs. Lucy, Dublin, 74 acres, 31 L Ryan, Mary, Damerstown, W., Castlecomer, 22 acres, 16 L Ryan, Patrick, Aughkiletaun, Graigue, 346 acres, 157 L Ryan, Patrick, Brownsford, New Ross, 24 acres, 14 L 15 s Ryan, Richard, Callan, 12 acres, 146 L 15 s Ryan, Thomas, Damerstown, W., Castlecomer, 24 acres, 17 L 10 s Ryan, Thomas, Bauntha, Callan, 2 acres, 1 L 15 s Kilkenny City: Ryan, Patrick, Dublin, 2 acres, 92 L Good luck with your research. Maryann [email protected] wrote: > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3222.1 > > Message Board Post: > > Your first assumption with just "at the foothills of the castle" might be that this is Kilkenny Castle itself in Kilkenny city. See websites at http://www.historic.irishcastles.com/kilkenny.htm > and others from Google. But anyway your dates are well within the range of Civil Registration so it should be easy to check. The indexes for Civil Registration for those years can be viewed at LDS centers worldwide. (Some have the microfilms always in stock) With references from the index you can order the certificates from Dublin. See: > http://www.groireland.ie/ > > Richard Callanan, London, England, > > ==== IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List ==== > ***Join a mailing list with 24-7 ROLL CALLS*** > Rootsweb's only totally Irish Roll Calls mailing list... > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3224.1 Message Board Post: Here is the info from the 1891 Census. If you want the image let me know. Mike Database: 1891 England Census -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Name Age in 1891 Birthplace Relationship to head-of-house Civil parish County Lalor, Amelia 38 York, Yorkshire Wife Willesden Middlesex Lalor, Francis C 8 New southgate, London Son Willesden Middlesex Lalor, Jeannette M 9 St Pancras, London Daughter Willesden Middlesex Lalor, John D 38 Dundee, Scotland Head Willesden Middlesex Lalor, John R 6 Wood green, Middlesex Son Willesden Middlesex Lalor, Robert C 4 Harlesden, Middlesex Son Willesden Middlesex Lalor, Thomas E 8.12 Harlesden, Middlesex Son Willesden Middlesex Source Information: Ancestry.co.uk. 1891 England Census. [database on-line] Provo, UT: Ancestry.co.uk, 2002-. Indexed by Ancestry.co.uk from microfilmed schedules of the England 1891 Census. Data imaged from Public Records Office, London , England . 2,131 rolls. London, England: Public Records Office. The Public Record Office gives no warranty as to the accuracy, completeness or fitness for the purpose of the information provided. Images may be used only for purposes of research, private study or education. Applications for any other use should be made to the PRO Image Library, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU. Infringement of the above condition may result in legal action.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lalor Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3224 Message Board Post: I am looking for help in finding some information about my grandfather. Here is the following infor I have so far. Francis Charles Lalor born England 1882 died Illinios 1951 Siblings Jennifer, Larry, Thomas Parents John Lalor born Scotland Amelia Powell born England Francis wife Elizabeth Duncan born Scotland Died Michigan I am looking for infor before he left England. Please email with any information since my membership is almost up. Thank you

Hi! My Ryans were from the parish of Danesfort also. My great grandmother was Anastasia Ryan, born May 19, 1862 in Goodwinsgarden, Kilkenny in the parish of Dunnamaggin. Her parents were Thomas Ryan and Ann Fogarty, m. November 24, 1859. When Anastasia was two they moved to Coalsfarm in the parish of Danesfort. Anastasia's siblings were: Mary, b. March 26, 1861 Catherine, b. April 4, 1864 Margaret, b. November 9, 1865 Patirck, b. March 15, 1869 Anne, b. February 24, 1871 Daniel, b. September 4, 1873 Patrick, b. August 20, 1873 Daniel, b. August 20, 1873 Bridget, b. February 13, 1875 Thomas, b. April 9, 1876 John, b. June 10, 1877 Anastasia came to Philadelphia, PA in 1883 where she married Stephen Hanrahan who also had come from Danesfort Parish. Stephen came over in 1881. His family lived in Cotterellsrath. If any of this rings a bell with anyone out there I would love to hear from you! Donna FOGARTY, HANRAHAN, RYAN in Kilkenny MCELHATTON in Tyrone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Comcast Mail" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [KILKENNY] Ryan Family > Do you have any idea what town in Kilkenny? My ancestors are from the > parish of Danesfort, town of Annamult and I've been informed that there is a > castle there. My names are PENDERGAST/PRENDERGAST, MAHER, and FANNAN. My > ggf left there and also settled in lawrence so I felt I had to respond! > Some names I have listed as baptismal sponsors are Burke, Fleming, Bryan, > Ryan, Walsh, Power, Clarke,Skeehan, Kennedy, Lawlor, MacDonald, Stevenson > and Stanley. I have no idea if my ancestor came to join relatives or what, > but maybe you may come across the names in your search. Please get back if > you find they were from the Danesfort area!....Maryann > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:07 AM > Subject: [KILKENNY] Ryan Family > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Surnames: Ryan, Marah, Sullivan > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3222 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Looking for any information. My ancestor Edmund Ryan was supposed to be > born at the foothills of the castle. Not sure what that means but hope it > is a clue. He was born to Edmond & Annie Marah of Kilkenny in abt 1879. He > had at least one brother Richard who settled in Lawrence MA & was born abt > 1877. Richard was married 2x & had children from both marriages: Peter, > Edward, Catherine, Margaret & Rose. Edmond was married to Annie Sullivan & > they settled in Lowell MA. They had 4 children: Catherine, Margaret, Daniel > & Annie. Appreciate any information. > > > > > > ==== IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List ==== > > To unsub from list, to search archives of list, or to change your type of > subscription: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-KILKENNY.html > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ==== IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List ==== > ***Join a mailing list with 24-7 ROLL CALLS*** > Rootsweb's first totally Irish Roll Calls mailing list... > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRELAND-ROLL-CALLS.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3222.1 Message Board Post: Your first assumption with just "at the foothills of the castle" might be that this is Kilkenny Castle itself in Kilkenny city. See websites at http://www.historic.irishcastles.com/kilkenny.htm and others from Google. But anyway your dates are well within the range of Civil Registration so it should be easy to check. The indexes for Civil Registration for those years can be viewed at LDS centers worldwide. (Some have the microfilms always in stock) With references from the index you can order the certificates from Dublin. See: http://www.groireland.ie/ Richard Callanan, London, England,

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MURPHY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3223 Message Board Post: I'm needing someone to help do some research in Kilkenny -- Go to the local parishes and check for Birth record, etc.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3006.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: slieverue is a small village in south kilkenny.my ancestors called wall came from that area.

Do you have any idea what town in Kilkenny? My ancestors are from the parish of Danesfort, town of Annamult and I've been informed that there is a castle there. My names are PENDERGAST/PRENDERGAST, MAHER, and FANNAN. My ggf left there and also settled in lawrence so I felt I had to respond! Some names I have listed as baptismal sponsors are Burke, Fleming, Bryan, Ryan, Walsh, Power, Clarke,Skeehan, Kennedy, Lawlor, MacDonald, Stevenson and Stanley. I have no idea if my ancestor came to join relatives or what, but maybe you may come across the names in your search. Please get back if you find they were from the Danesfort area!....Maryann ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:07 AM Subject: [KILKENNY] Ryan Family > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Ryan, Marah, Sullivan > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3222 > > Message Board Post: > > Looking for any information. My ancestor Edmund Ryan was supposed to be born at the foothills of the castle. Not sure what that means but hope it is a clue. He was born to Edmond & Annie Marah of Kilkenny in abt 1879. He had at least one brother Richard who settled in Lawrence MA & was born abt 1877. Richard was married 2x & had children from both marriages: Peter, Edward, Catherine, Margaret & Rose. Edmond was married to Annie Sullivan & they settled in Lowell MA. They had 4 children: Catherine, Margaret, Daniel & Annie. Appreciate any information. > > > ==== IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List ==== > To unsub from list, to search archives of list, or to change your type of subscription: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-KILKENNY.html > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Seamus at [email protected] writes: << telephone listings for Tinlough, Carrigeen, Waterford and some for Tinlough, Kilmacow, Waterford. Are these the same Tinlough. Where is it (are they). I cannot find a townland listed in that area. Neither can I find it on the OS Discovery maps. >> Seamus, The only thing I can be reasonably sure of, is that these two listings do refer to the same Tinlough. You're right, its not an official townland. Entering just plain Tinlough into google gives a number of hits - the one from the Munster Express may be the most interesting. From that description, the settlement/village of Tinlough (apparently a well-know location in the far S. Kilkenny area) would be in this area. Carrigeen village, probably just the 3 or 4 houses, school and St. Kevins RC church [Mooncoin RC parish] shown on the Discovery map, 3 1/2 miles SSW of Kilmacow, is also shown by name on the mid-1800's maps, in the townlands of Clasharoe and Corluddy. This certainly seems close enough to Kilmacow to convince me that Tinlough - wherever it is - is in the vicinity of these two locations. But I'll bet that someone from that south Kilkenny area could tell you in a Kilkenny minute <gr>. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

I am trying to locate Tinlough "near Waterford". I have found some telephone listings for Tinlough, Carrigeen, Waterford and some for Tinlough, Kilmacow, Waterford. Are these the same Tinlough. Where is it (are they). I cannot find a townland listed in that area. Neither can I find it on the OS Discovery maps. Best regards, Seamus Moore, Dublin, Ireland.

Well, it has been a month or so, but this is one I received yesterday but didn't even open the email because I thought it was spam. This message comes looking like a message from Penpal saying your account is about to expire and then asks for some credit info. You can check out the information here: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/[email protected] -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, listowner http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WALL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3006.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Where is Slieverue? I think this family could well be connected to my WALL family of Walkin Street, Kilkenny City. Same Christian names are still in use today. However I haven't managed to get back before around 1850/60. Joy

Hi there I'm trying to trace the roots of John BIRGIN who married MaryWELCH, August 6th 1815 at Manchester Cathedral, Lancashire, England. In an 1833 Directory there is James Bergin Fustian Cutter, 29 Ledger St, Salford In 1838 John Bergin, Fustian Cutter 10 Ledger St, Salford Good chance that James and John are either father & son or brothers, maybe cousins but related. In the 1851 census John BIRGIN living at 6 Ledger St, Salford John Bergin head/wid 63yrs fustion cutter b. Ireland Mary Ann Dau unm 34 yrs fustion cutter b Manchester William son mar 28yrs fustion cutter b Manchester by 1881 married to mary from Sligo Sarah dau in law 28yrs fustion cutter b.Manchester Margaret dau 24yrs fustion cutter b. Manchester James son 21yrs smith&farrier b Manchester William g/son 1 yr b Manchester John died at 6 Ledger Street, 1853 Being 63 in 1851 puts his birth year at approx 1788 somewhere in Ireland. Variations of the name seem to be BIRGIN, BERGIN, BERGEN, BERGHAN, BERGHEN, BERRIGAN, BURGAN, BURGEN, BURGIN and BURKAN. And possibly many others. Would be interested to hear from anybody with possible connections or suggestions of where to find his birth. many thanks Alexander

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ryan Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/2668.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Tess I have since found out that my Daniel was married to Johanna Wallace (same name as his son Michael's wife !!). Daniel was born in 1776 in Kilkenny. His wife Johanna was born in 1780, also in Kilkenny. Doesn't look like a match unless Daniel married twice. If you come across anything in your travels for my Daniel I'd love to hear from you.

Hi Michelle and Sue, Perhaps my RYANS may fit in there somewhere with yours. My g-grandfather was born in 1880 in Cork, and my g-grandmother in 1879 in Kilkenny. Here are their names: G-grandfather - James Joseph Ryan, 1880, Queenstown, Cork, Ire G-grandmother - Johannah (or Josephine) Mary Murphy - 1879, Kilkenny, Ire If you need more information, please don't hesitate to let me know. I am trying to find out how much of their families they left behind when they came to America in 1902. Thanks, Cathy in Tampa Ongoing Surname Searches as of 10/2003 A U S T I N, D R I S C O L L, F U L L E R, K O Z I S K I, K U P E C Z, M C L E N D O N, M U R P H Y, N A G L E, R U P P E R T, R Y A N, S T E P H E N S, W I L L I A M S, W A L L A

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: RYAN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/2668.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello Michelle, Can you tell me a little more about them? I've found a cousin in Ireland and have been exchanging family history & photographs - I'll check with him. Where in Massachusetts did your "branch" move to? Do you know where in Kilkenny they came from? FYI - I found out that my branch of Ryan's actually came from St. Mullen, County Carlow. Which is just over the boarder from Kilkenny. Lets see if we can make a family connection. Look forward to hearing from you. Sue