Dear Cathy, Without a doubt there was a lot of "name duplication" in the RYAN decendency. Understanding that, here is my question -- my great-grandfather's name was James Joseph Ryan. As far as I can discern, he was from CO. Kilkenny and as well, he was named after his own father. He came to America in 1897-1902 (census records vary a bit) through Queenstown, CO. Cork. He and his wife Johanna (Josephine) Mary Murphy, settled in the Bronx where he worked on the railroad. They had 6 children, the eldest being my grandmother, Josephine Mary Ryan. If any of this interests you, I would love to hear from you. Thank you very much, Cathy in Tampa Ongoing Surname Searches as of 1/2004 A U S T I N / D R I S C O L L / F U L L E R / HRADEL K O Z I S K I / K U P E C Z M C L E N D O N / M U R P H Y / N A G L E / R U P P E R T / R Y A N S T E P H E N S / W I L L I A M S / W A L L A

Biographical Record and Portrait Album of Webster and Hamilton Counties, Iowa. Chicago: Lewis Publishing, 1888. John Walsh, one of the well-known farmers of Johnson Township, is a native of Ireland, born in Kilkenny County, Waterford [Ireland?], in 1820, a son of Michael and Mary (Dempsey) Walsh. In 1844 he came to the United States and located in McHenry, Illinois, and a year later was joined by his brother Edward. They worked by the month as farm hands, until 1856 when John came to Fort Dodge, Iowa, Edward following him in 1857. He pre-empted 160 acres of land in 1855 but did not settle on it until 1858, the brothers working the farm of Thomas Flaherty in 1857. In 1858 he built a log cabin on the land and together the brothers have worked their farm, owning it in partnership with the exception of two homesteads of eighty acres each. They now own 470 acres and are numbered among the prosperous men of the township. Their homes are beautifully located, and their buildings are commodious and erected with a view to convenience and elegance. They have acquired their property by hard work and good management. John Walsh was married in 1885 to Margaret Kelly, and to them have been born two children- Mary and Michael. In politics they are Democratic in their affiliations and in religion are members of the Catholic church. Cathy Joynt Labath Irish in Iowa http://www.celticcousins.net/irishiniowa/index.htm

Biographical Record and Portrait Album of Webster and Hamilton Counties, Iowa. Chicago: Lewis Publishing, 1888. James J. Ryan, the present efficient treasurer of Webster County, belongs to one of the early families of Cooper Township. His father, John Ryan, was a native of County Kilkenny, Ireland, where he grew to manhood and married Mary Phelan, a native of the same county. In 1847, they sailed for America from Liverpool, in the old passage ship, DeWitt Clinton, and after a tedious voyage of three months landed in New York. They first located at Rondout, a small town on the Hudson River, where Mr. Ryan was employed about a year as foreman in a cement mill. They then moved to McHenry County, Illinois, where they lived until 1856, when they moved to Webster County and bought 160 acres of land on section 9, Cooper Township, and thenceforth the father's time was spent in farming and stock-raising. His death occurred June 15, 1872, after a lingering illness of several years, the result of a sunstroke. The children were all too young to assume any responsibility and the care of her family and the estate devolved on Mrs. Ryan. Since the death of the father they have added 160 acres to the homestead, which now contains 320 acres, about half being under cultivation. Mr. Ryan was a representative man of his township. He was well educated, excelling in mathematics of which he was very fond. He began life a poor boy and by industry and good management secured for his family a fine farm. He was affable and genial in his disposition, and made friends wherever he was known. He was ever a strong opponent of the liquor traffic and a warm advocate of the temperance cause, and it might here be remarked that all his sons have inherited this virtue of their father, not one of them ever touched liquor. There was a family of eleven children, three of whom are deceased. Those living are Margaret, Anna, Mary, Catherine, James J., Elizabeth, Michael and Edward. Mary is the wife of Morris Welch of Badger Township; Catherine is the wife of Thomas B.___ of Fort Dodge. The rest with the exception of James, are on the homestead with the mother. The family are all members of the Catholic church. James J. Ryan was born in Cooper Township, June 8, 1861. He was educated in the public school at Fort Dodge, and for many years was engaged in buying stock. In politics he is a Democrat, and in 1887 was elected by his party county treasurer, succeeding D.A. Weller who was his opponent and had been an acceptable official. Mr. Ryan's election was due to his energy, ability, and popularity with the young men, and his administration of the affairs of the office fully confirms the confidence imposed in him, and has won for him the respect of the opposing party. Cathy Joynt Labath Irish in Iowa http://www.celticcousins.net/irishiniowa/index.htm

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McGann, Pendergast, Carr, Cannon, Murphy Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3286.4.1 Message Board Post: Hi Pat: Sorry I can't help you on Smithers, but since this was on the Kilkenny board, I'm wondering if your Carr ancestors came from there. I'm hunting for Carrs born in Ireland. Thanks. Carol McGann

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3098.1.2 Message Board Post: Tom, from my cousin in Ireland. 1821 "Mooncoin Village" census House # 58- Michael Howley age 45, wife Catherine Foley age 39 (b. 1782 to Patrick Foley & Elizabeth Houghter) John 18 apprentice baptism 1803 Patrick 16 apprentice bap. April 30, 1805 sps.- Richard Carroll& Bridget Comerfort James 14 bap. 1807 Bridget 11 bap. 1809 Thomas 8 bap. March 23, 1813 sps.-Richard & Mary Brannigan Elya 5 bap. 1816 Father in Law Pat Foley age 65 ----------------------------------------------- other children born to Michael & Catherine but they are not on 1821 census. Catherine June ?, 1810 sps. Lawrence Walsh & Mary Grant (died ?) Michael bap. April 28, 1818 sps. James Comerfort & Catherine Howley (died?) Kitty bap. May 17, 1821 sps. John Brannigan & Judith Phelan Have not come across Martin yet. Will let you know if we do. rhonda [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3293 Message Board Post: I'm looking for links of the Kirby family to Kilkenny Ireland but I'm having a lot of trouble. I know that Jonh Kirby and his wife Mary Talbot came over from Kilkenny (on what ship or what port I don't know). I know one of their daughters, Mary Kirby, is my great great grandmother who married a WIndham in Mississippi. They had my great grandmother Lula Melverne Windham who then bore my grandfather, James Robert Sherman. He then married Sammi Lynn Davis who then had my mother Janet Lynn Sherman, and then she married my dad William Russell Crumby. I have a picture of John Kirby and a copy of his residency slip for Mobile, AL (he died there about 1898/1899). Any information anyone can give me on Kirbys in Kilkenny or Ireland in general would be appreciated. Since it's been so difficult to trace, I starting to wonder if Kirby is the original spelling and if John is originally from Kilkenny.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3292.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Steve, I am no relation. I did a census search because from my experience the mother sometimes is living with a relative which may reveal the maiden name. I will see if I can find anything on Frank. Mike

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3292.1.1 Message Board Post: hi mike thanks for the info. did'nt no there were 2 others i know where esther oscar and annie and robert are buried in middletown thats where i am no where there graves are robert who is my grandfather just recently died last yr. was killed in a car crash he was 90's he would have lived to a 100 probably he was in great shape. my dad told me that frank moved to new jersey and is buried there near atlantic city he had a couple kids to.was curious how u had the information thanks for it if u can add anything else it would be helpful steve brynes

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WILEY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/636.1.1 Message Board Post: I've now been given some info on my Thomas Wiley - he was born 1799 in Ballinakill, Abbeyleix, Queens County son of Jacob Wiley & Jane. He married Elizabeth Wills at Ballinakill in 1825. I believe this area now comes under LAOIS. Is he in your tree?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3292.1 Message Board Post: Steve, Can't help you with the names of your gggrandparents, but I can offer the following information. Robert and Annie had more than four children. In the 1900 to 1920 census the children appear as follows: Edna M. b. Jan 1896 Joseph W. b. Dec 1896 Charles C. b. Sep 1898 Esther C. b. Abt 1902 Frank P. b. Abt 1904 Oscar b. Abt 1909 Robert W. b. Abt 1913 Mike

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CARR, SMITHERS, SMITH, McDonald Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3286.4 Message Board Post: Can you give me any information for CHARLES FRANCIS SMITHERS. I think he was born in London in 1822, a son of HENRY KEENE SMITHERS,born abt 1762. Can you find any referance to marriages as well as births or census information ? Thank you very much. Patricia CARR McDonald

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3292 Message Board Post: have ggrandfathers death certificate on it says mothers maiden name dori pkum spelling not right cant figure it out father was not known both from ireland she came to states her son was robert w. brynes 1865-1923 he married annie louise schiver 1870-1947 the had 3 boys robert oscar and frank and daughter esther they lived in delaware and are buried here any info would be great thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/636.1 Message Board Post: I am also searching the Wiley family. In particular a Thomas Wiley bn 1783 to a Mary Proctor. A number of the children were murdered and Mary Wiley/Proctor died in Ireland in 1828. They only surviving children were John and William. Thomas came to Canada and John stayed in Ontario and Willliam moved to Michigan US. My Thomas Wily is the son of Thomas Henry Wiley. Mary was disowned by her family for marrying a "commoner".

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3286.3 Message Board Post: I would really appreciate a look up for a Caroline CLEMENTS. She was born abt.1863 in Ireland, Belfast. I am also having trouble trying to find her marrage to a William BIRKIN which should have taken place Abt 1886. Regards Janet

Hello Thank you for the offer. I would appreciate it if you could try to look up Catherine O`HARE born Co. Galway Ire. about 1843/ 1845. Her father was John and mother was Catherine DONAHUE. Both were born in Ire. about 1825. Catherine may have married a man named CORRIGAN in the early 1860`s. She immigrated to Massachusetts, US about 1865 and married William BRENNAN in 1873. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:30 AM Subject: [KILKENNY] Free Uk Research > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3286 > > Message Board Post: > > Are you searching your English Ancestors? I may be able to help. > > I carry out free research at the Family Records Centre in London, if you need a Birth, Marriage, Death Certificate. > All enquiries welcome. > > > ==== IRL-KILKENNY Mailing List ==== > New!! Irish-American Mailing List, great place for discussion of the > Irish American experience, you can join at: > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Ethnic-Irish/IRISH-AMERICAN.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi list, I am new to the list and to searching in Ireland. I have been told it is sometimes very diffecult, but maybe you could offer me some guidance. I will shortly be travelling to Ireland to seek some information on two of my ancestors. One was George Gould (or Goold) and, according to his Army Service Record, he was '... born in the Parish of Dunluce near the town of Bush Mills in the County of Antrim...' and he '...attested for the 96th Regt. at Glasgow...Lanark on the 22nd Octr. 1850 at the age of 19 years...' thus putting his date of birth at 1830/1. The censuses of 1881 and 91, and his death registation, put it at 1831/4 Elizabeth Wall (born 'Ireland' 1841/4 per censuses of Scotland' 81 & '91 and England 1901) married George in 25.11.1862 in Kilkeny according to two of their chidren's Scottish birth certificates and Dublin according to a third, while he was still in the Army, and the couple were posted to India with 36th foot Reg where his daughters, Henrietta (Moradabad, Bengal, 1867) and Rose Ann (1868) were born. He was discharged in 1872 in Dublin and moved to Scotland by 1874. I have a full history of both of them in Scotland but don't know where to start in Ireland. Is it possible to find the marrige or birth records from such scant information and if so, where would it be best to look? Any pointers or other help would be appreciated, as would contact from anyone who might be researching the same lines. John K Leadbeater Newton Kyme

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/620.1 Message Board Post: Judy, Hi its me again, after seeing your e-mail igot nosy and checked your post, and I may be of some help. My ancestors owned several brick yards in Verplanck and Buchanan. Most were in the Indian and Charles Point areas which around the turn of the century was part of the Hamlet of Verpalnck. In fact if you have traveled Bleakley Ave. leading into Indian Point just befor the light is a lake that was one of the largest clay pits. I do have some old pay records from 1850s to about 1920. I will check to see if any of the surnames you have been researching are on there. Hope I will be able to help, it make take several days as there are volumes of "stuff". But anything for and old friend. Frank

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/WWC.2ACI/3098.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Tom, My GGGGrandmother was Mary Foley b. 1797 who married Walter Dunphy. They lived in the Foley house in Ballincur, Mooncoin which is still occupied by relatives. My GG Grandmother Mary Brawders Dunphy I believe had an Aunt? Honora Brawders who married Mathias Howley. I would assume Martin was born to either Michael or Matthias. I emailed a cousin in Ireland to see if he can come up with a better location for Martin. Thanks! Rhonda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Griffith of Co Kilkenny Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/WWC.2ACI/3291 Message Board Post: Any info on Edward Griffith who became a clergyman in Bristol born Co Kilkenny circa 1827. which townland or town?

Many thanks to those of you who sent me web sites to check for a street map for Thomastown, Kilkenny. Unfortunately, they all only went as far as the highway (numbered) roads not the actual street names in Thomastown. I did find one travel web site at: http://www.travel-wire.com/kilkenny/thomastown/thomastown.html It shows four of five streets in Thomastown. I'm still looking for a street map of the whole town of Thomastown, so if anyone comes across one, I would really appreciate if you could post it to the list. Thanks Susan