Hi Dale- Sounds like an interesting find! I was able to locate where my gg-grandfather's blacksmith shop and house was in Athy (1848) by using the Ordnance maps developed to go with Griffith's Valuation. Although your specific ancestor emigrated before Griffith's, maybe another relative lived there-or at least using the map of Timolin you could find out who lived there. There aren't many houses in Timolin, so the listing along with the map may bring something to light. You should contact the Valuation Office Ireland, Irish Life Centre, Abbey Street Lower, Dublin 1. The phone is 353 1 817 1000, fax is 353 1 817 1180. A Mr. Brendan Robbins assisted me. Is this the wall across from the Sportsmen's Pub you are talking about? Don't remember if I told you, but I also noted a James Dunn of Castledermot Parish, died April 11, 1866, aged 33 years buried in St. Louis. I have a photo of the gravestone if he turns out to be a relative. There are a lot of Dunns in that areas... Did you also visit that little ruined church and cemetery on a corner in the country between Timolin and Athy? Kevin Kerwin ----- Original Message ----- From: "D.I." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > Many thanks, Terry, for that information. I'm wondering if your source of > information is from a wonderful old book that I found at the Cellbridge (or > was it Naas?) Library a few years ago. I think it was Lewis' (??) > Topography of Ireland and was written around 1841. > > On my fourth trip back to Ireland last year, I roamed all over the Timolin > countryside, up behind the few houses, church and two pubs that now make up > Timolin. I found one very old, stone cottage, in ruins, but definitely > restorable (I'd LOVE the chance!!) that I WILLED to be the house of my g g > grandfather, Thomas Dunne, who was born in Timolin 1791 and who came to > Australia sometime before 1841. Discovering and walking through that old > cottage was a highlight of my trip! I have no way of knowing if it was my > ancestor's cottage but the prospect that it MAY have been was sufficient for > me! At least it gave me an idea of what his cottage could have looked like. > Exhilarating stuff! The countryside must have many more stone cottages > hidden by vines and nettles ....at least 27!! > > Cheers, > Dale > Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 6:06 AM > Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > > > > Dale, > > > > Timolin was both a town and a parish. > > > > Timolin Town: > > 1841: total population: 172 including 91 males and 81 females. > > total houses: 28: inhabited 26: uninhabited 2. > > > > 1851: total population: 137 including 76 males and 61 females. > > total houses: 30: inhabited 24: uninhabited 6. > > > > Timolin Parish: > > 1841: total population: 1,611 including 810 males and 801 females. > > total houses: 270: inhabited 258: uninhabited 12. > > > > 1851: total population: 1,265 including 615 males and 650 females. > > total houses: 249: inhabited 220: uninhabited 29. > > > > Terry Arthur, > > Tyne & Wear, > > England. > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hello again, Kevin, I'll write to the Valuation Office to see if they have can help locate a possible address of Thomas Dunne, thanks for the suggestion. No, this cottage ruin was up behind the village itself on a quiet, leafy road. Yes, I believe the church ruin you're talking about, is the one at Killelan, opposite PJ O'Brien's farm. It has a round tower that I managed to find the entrance to, underneath dense undergrowth including nettles!! It was a case of getting down on all fours! The stone stairs were extremely cramped and narrow with just enough room for one person, but I made it to the top. I was rewarded with a fantastic view over the hills of Timolin. More exhilerating stuff! I don't think any of my Dunnes emigrated to America. I also know that the Timolin Dunne's and the Castledermot Dunnes are not related but I've taken a note of your James Dunne just in case. Dale Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Kerwin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > Hi Dale- > Sounds like an interesting find! I was able to locate where my > gg-grandfather's blacksmith shop and house was in Athy (1848) by using the > Ordnance maps developed to go with Griffith's Valuation. Although your > specific ancestor emigrated before Griffith's, maybe another relative > lived > there-or at least using the map of Timolin you could find out who lived > there. There aren't many houses in Timolin, so the listing along with the > map may bring something to light. You should contact the Valuation Office > Ireland, Irish Life Centre, Abbey Street Lower, Dublin 1. The phone is 353 > 1 > 817 1000, fax is 353 1 817 1180. A Mr. Brendan Robbins assisted me. > Is this the wall across from the Sportsmen's Pub you are talking about? > > Don't remember if I told you, but I also noted a James Dunn of > Castledermot > Parish, died April 11, 1866, aged 33 years buried in St. Louis. I have a > photo of the gravestone if he turns out to be a relative. There are a lot > of > Dunns in that areas... > > Did you also visit that little ruined church and cemetery on a corner in > the > country between Timolin and Athy? > > Kevin Kerwin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D.I." <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > > >> Many thanks, Terry, for that information. I'm wondering if your source of >> information is from a wonderful old book that I found at the Cellbridge > (or >> was it Naas?) Library a few years ago. I think it was Lewis' (??) >> Topography of Ireland and was written around 1841. >> >> On my fourth trip back to Ireland last year, I roamed all over the >> Timolin >> countryside, up behind the few houses, church and two pubs that now make > up >> Timolin. I found one very old, stone cottage, in ruins, but definitely >> restorable (I'd LOVE the chance!!) that I WILLED to be the house of my g >> g >> grandfather, Thomas Dunne, who was born in Timolin 1791 and who came to >> Australia sometime before 1841. Discovering and walking through that old >> cottage was a highlight of my trip! I have no way of knowing if it was >> my >> ancestor's cottage but the prospect that it MAY have been was sufficient > for >> me! At least it gave me an idea of what his cottage could have looked > like. >> Exhilarating stuff! The countryside must have many more stone cottages >> hidden by vines and nettles ....at least 27!! >> >> Cheers, >> Dale >> Australia >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 6:06 AM >> Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY >> >> >> > Dale, >> > >> > Timolin was both a town and a parish. >> > >> > Timolin Town: >> > 1841: total population: 172 including 91 males and 81 females. >> > total houses: 28: inhabited 26: uninhabited 2. >> > >> > 1851: total population: 137 including 76 males and 61 females. >> > total houses: 30: inhabited 24: uninhabited 6. >> > >> > Timolin Parish: >> > 1841: total population: 1,611 including 810 males and 801 females. >> > total houses: 270: inhabited 258: uninhabited 12. >> > >> > 1851: total population: 1,265 including 615 males and 650 females. >> > total houses: 249: inhabited 220: uninhabited 29. >> > >> > Terry Arthur, >> > Tyne & Wear, >> > England. >> > >> > >> > ============================== >> > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >