This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2242.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I looked first on www.familysearch.org Latter Days Saints website, little on Kildare for Patrick, however, on their PILOT website under 'search records' on the main page is a program that has records from the late 1700.until 1950's. eg: Patrick Bermingham died Oct=Dec, 1918 age 46, Naas, estimated birth year 1872. Film No. 0101607Vo.1,Pg897 Patrick born Jan-March 1898, Naas #101067 Vol.1 Pg. 790 There were 48, I kept putting in Annie Lennox duh! till I realized! 48 Annie Lennon 1 born 1874 Naas Fil No.101051,Vol12,Pg.875 I couldn't find a birth or marriage for Annie Lennon on a bmd site for Kildare. There were Patrick's Bermingham born 1781, 1862x 2, 1885, 1890, 1891 and 1898.One Patrick Bermingham marriage 1894. I figured Patrick (Sr)birth to be about 1874 /-, further information contact me at codeannette@yahoo.ca Have you tried looking these: www.censusfinder.com United Kingdom-Ireland-County ( I had a look at Kildare not very satisfactory) www.igp-web.com County www.failteromhat.com for Griffiths's Valuation of Ireland one of the most complete census substitute -but done in the 1850's so probably would be Patrick (Sr)father? There are also Directories at the above website as well, this is what I found: 1824 Pigot's: Kildare Walter Kirmingham, Weaver 1881 Slater's:William Bermingham,Rathangan- Boot & Shoe Mkr. II have the CD for Civil Registrations for Ireland but the dates are restricted to 1864-1875 The only Patrick born in that period was Patrick Bermingham b 8 July 1875 Newbridge, Kildare #255935 Parents: James Berminham and Eliza Brien Annette Code 'genealogy for fun' Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.