This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/708.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking through an index of births/baptism I found 9 Bridget's born in 1862, and 6 Mary's to a father Thomas The county they had in common was Westmeath that was before I read Co. Kildare in particular. I had estimated the father's birth years as 1840 or-. Rather than 1834 which makes them about 26 when they had Mary, the average age for marriage was 20-25.There is no record of a Thomas McDermott born in Kildare but two Thomas McDermott in Griffith Valuations of 1850's. One Mary Brien and 1 Mary Bryan (you can asssume the O')www.failteromhat.com & www.askaboutireland.com have the Griffith Valuation. I usually give www.censusfinder.com as a good resourse but Co.Kildare has little information - same as www.igp-web.com I checked the 1871 Census but only Ireland given as you must know. Suncroft, Kildare was/is in the Parish of Kilmeage. I have been told marriages took place in the bride's parish church. However, a re-check of Griffith Valuations shows no O'Brien in Parish of Kilmeage as I would of expected as the Parish Church would be where most people met unless they were townies. www.familysearch.org has a record of a Thomas McDermott spouse Mary 1844/1845 but no other details and the UK 1881 Census but the PILOT could be helpful in finding bmd's.The pilot is found under 'search records' top left main page. There is a bmd database online but I am not permitted to put on this message board. You can contact me at codeannette@yahoo.com with database-Kildare in the subject. Wished I could do more. You might try writing to the Diocese of Kildare & Leighlin, they are on line. The National Library in Dublin has records to 1890 I believe for both Catholic and Protestant. These are the records on the LDS familysearch.org. and its PILOT. Annette Code 'genealogy for fun' Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.