This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2306.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: www.familysearch.org had no listing for Rose Patten but the PILOT program (found under search records top left corner, drop down menu) Not sure this is the one but its the only one with that name. Rosey Paton, husband John Barden, son Martin born 26 Nov. 1864, Birth Place Newbridge, FHL#C70l28-8/101096 www.familysearch.org has 5 Joseph O'Brien's in New York also in the 1880/81 out of 95 records for that name. The numbers for both Murphy and the name OBrien is difficult. These are some resources you can work through. www.askaboutireland.ie and www.failteromhat.com for Griffith Valuation a census substitute from the 1850's that listed all those occupying land from Nobility down to the sub-tenants of land. Try and cross reference the two names to bring down the numbers. There are Barden's in other counties but not Kildare, there were shared parish's with other counties along the border areas. If the Rosey Paton is the right one and Newbridge is the correct place for all family names Murphy/Patten/Paton/Barden/OBrien. I need to go now. Will look again tomorrow to see if I've forgotten anything. Annette Code amateur assistance Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.