This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2286.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I question some of the dates given Patrick Connolly born 1856 but married in 1860, same Rose Doyle? children not born till 1880's? The marriage certificates say born 1880 which then makes sense. Both have father's Patrick. The reason I ask is that the names Connolly and Doyle are both very common so it is hard to differentiate without good information. I have a set of CD's from the Latter Day Saint's from 1864-1875 but the letter "C" disc no longer works. I did find that although you mention Crookstown Parish Church. Calverstown is in the Parish of Davidstown. I have been told that the marriages usually took place in the brides church? There are 276 Doyle's in County Kildare in 1850's (probably father's father would of farmed these) 15 in the Parish of Davidstown, Calverstown Townland. Eg: John Doyle Parish of Davidstown, Calverstown townland, tenant of Robert Borrowes property number 12 A house,office land 23Acres.1.10 and 12B land 1.3.15 see www.failteromhat.com and/or www.askaboutireland.ie This Parish was in the Poor Law Union of Athy, and the Civil Registrations followed the boundaries of the Poor Law Unions. www.familysearch.org PILOT program found under search records top left corner: These records go up to the 1950's. Look for references to Athy Registration District. Annette Code 'genealogy for fun' Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2287.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is the rootsweb message board for County Kildare, Ireland. Is there a connection for the family there?? AC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2288.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I tried using www.familysearch.org's PILOT program to look for the name PIDGEON. The PILOT is located under search records top left of main page: sometimes you just put in the name and Ireland rather than filling in all information this was you get US Census, passenger lists as well as the bmd's. It can also be used for Australia as well. These are some examples: Sophia Mary Pidgeon birth estimate 1862 based on age at death 1862, aged 12. The Registration District is Naas which covers areas of Kildare or Wicklow Mary born 1871 and died 1871 Celbridge Registration District covers areas of Dublin/Kildare and Meath Andrew born 1864 died 1864 Celbridge Registration District Counties same. Note the Registration district were based on the Poor Law Union areas, and the record below for William Pidgeon was in the Poor Law Union of Celbridge. For descriptions of these divisions see www.from-ireland.net Ireland was divided into Diocese, Barony's, Civil Parishes, Civil Registrations, Poor Law Unions, Parish's had Townland's the smallest and oldest area. from-ireland also have civil registrations for 1864. There is also a gravestone page etc. Griffith Valuations of 1853 shows Pidgeon's all told 39, mostly Dublin, 2 Cavan, 4 Armagh.Although it is later than the dats you give it indicates what families were still living in the 1850's. www.failteromhat.com and www.askaboutireland.ie William Pidgeon tenant of Samuel Jones, Killadoon Parish, Crippaun Property 2. house office and land 110A acres (pretty significant for the day) William Keegan, Parish of Killadoon, Ballymakealy Upper Townland sub-letting from David White (who let from Wm.Spelman)property 1e house and garden Found no McMahon/Mahony or Quinn in this parish There is also a data base of bmd's on line where you can look people up by name and get a year of birth for which you can get a copy. You would need to try all the options as just because you know now a marriage that took place in Co. Kildare it could be recorded in a different County. I cannot put the name of this resource on the message board due to rootsweb policy but if you want to look it up you can contact me via regular email codeannette@yahoo.ca but you have to keep in mind a great deal of Ireland's records no longer exist or are damaged back around the late 1700-'s and early 1800's. Also anything after 1864 becomes a civil registration for both RC and Protestant by law. The records for these would be at the General Registry Office in Dublin City. www.groireland.ie The only guaranteed way of matching up siblings are through the Parish records where the parents names are recorded. I looked for Church of Ireland records of marriage which were recorded from 1845 but NONE recorded. There are 3 births in Kildare births between 1864-1875 but the parents would of been born in the 1840's. Still not early enough for your family. RC bmd's were not required before 1864 to register births other than in parish/church records. There are few records on www.censusfinder.com but there are a few on www.igp-web.com Annette Code 'genealogy for fun' Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jc33b Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2278.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Annette, I thought I better report that by accident, I have found "Hermitage" in Kildare. It is near Carbury, in the extreme west of Kildare. There was a record of my ancestor's wedding on the amazing website of Irish records: http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com. Through the same site, I have now traced the female line back another three generations. The male line (Keaveny) is just too hard - I found a few parish records at Rhode, but as records only start in 1820, I am stuffed beyond that. John Cherry Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gk60532 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/600.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It is possible that we have family in common. My greatgrandfather Stephen was born in Ireland and his father Thomas was also born in Dublin, Ireland. I know that there has to be other family in Ireland and England. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pidge6 Surnames: Pidgeon McMahon Mahony Quin Keegan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2288/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for siblings of Michael Pidgeon (born abt 1805).Michael emigrated to Australia in 1842 with his wife Sarah McMahon or Mahony (Quin) (nee Keegan) and their children plus 2 children from Sarah first marriage to John Keegan.They married in 1836 Co.Kildare.Michael's father was James and mother was Lucy Lee.Were Roman Catholic. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2249.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No problem, I remember little anyway, in fact I had to look to see what I had written. I can give you the database for bmd's if you contact me by regular email at codeannette@yahoo.ca I can't put the name on the message board. AC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dralac91 Surnames: dwyer, callan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2249.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you so much for the help you have given me here - I am sorry it has taken me an indecently long time to write and express my thanks. In all honesty I'd forgotten I'd made this post. You have given me some food for thought and some useful leads - and for that I thank you :) Kindest regards Kathryn Dwyer Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: arlenebullock55 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/600.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: yes i believe that john holton was my greatgrandfather, my grandfather was james holton my father was alfred holton maybe we have family in common Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Wombat_47 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2283.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My Patrick Purcell (and there are lots!) married Elizabeth (Hemfit/Henifit) in Sheffield 1856, not long before they sailed for Australia with Elizabeth's brother. None of Elizabeth's family are listed on the 1851 UK Census, so can only assume that they arrived post-Census. Patrick died 19 May, 1898, aged 74 years, and was buried at Rookwood Catholic Cemetery, Sydney. His death registration shows parents as "Unknown". Patrick's son, also Patrick, married in 1886, had the first few children in Sydney and then, in the late 1890's, took the family to Western Australia, where more children were born. It appears Patrick was mining - the birth of one of the children was registered at Kalgoolie, another at Leonora. The family returned to Sydney c.1914. On the Western Australia Postal Directory I have picked up a Patrick Purcell and a Peter Purcell both listed for a time living very near Kalgoolie. I have no idea if this is my Patrick or not, but very curious. The last child born to young Patrick and Catherine was named Daniel Peter. The names are not used by any other members of the family - and this is a family of three brothers, two sisters, and their three first cousins who stuck to the same small pool of forenames for at least two generations. Might just have to bite the bullet and buy the UK marriage cert in the hope that the name of elder Patrick's father is on it. Shame they don't have the mother's name though. Many thanks for your suggestions. I think I need to find a parent's name first. Cheers Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dcblack_1 Surnames: Gunnan, Gannon, Black, Kirk Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2287/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for any information on Mary Ellen "Nellie" Gunnan, born 1773, possibly in Dumfriesshire, Scotland, possibly a daughter of a man named Charles Gunnan or Gannon. Thank you. Dean Black Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ChristopherNeil99 Surnames: Connolly, O'Toole Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2286/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am seeking descendents of: Patrick Connolly of Calverstown born c1856 who married Rose Doyle born c 1865 of Calverstown. They married on the 14th June 1860 at Crookstown parish church. They has a number of children: Ellen Mary born 1881 Anne born 1883 (MY GRANDMOTHER)*** Margaret born 1887 John born 1888 Rose born 1891(Married Michael O'Toole,soldier 1918) Thomas born 1894 Mary born 1896 Patrick born 1900 James born 1904 Anne (Annie) would have left Kildare before 1901 census and she was married to my grandfather Samuel Neill in Liscard Wallasey in 1903. They moved to Belfast where he worked I believe at Harland & Woolf and they had four children while they lived in Belfast: James Francis Neill, born 1903 Samuel Neill, born 1906 Nelly Neill born 1909 John Neill (my father) born 1913 Annie Neill born in 1915 Please contact me through Ancestry or by e mail to c.neil59@btinternet.com Chris Neil Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: salmonorourke Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2285/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I am looking for any information on the family of Martin Salmon state solicitor for Kildare from 1960-63 who lived in Naas,he passed away in 1963 at the age of 38, his wife was Rita Sullivan from Ballymore-Eustace ,his father was John M. Salmon solicitor who passed away in 1935.I would especially love to hear from anyone who knew Martin or the Salmon family.I can be contacted at salmonorourkeAThotmail.com. Ger Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: susanegan67 Surnames: Donohoe Donohue O'Donohoe O'Donohue Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/291.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Your post is like 10 years old so this is a bit belated. I had great grandparents from Naas named Brigid and John Donohoe, who had children John, William, Brigdet and Ellen. Although your John was married to Susan there is perhaps a connection with Naas. William was my grandfather, so I know his DOB was 1896, but I have no further details. Do you think there is any connections? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2283.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I was again looking up Ballymore as it is on the border with Wicklow and I read it had a finger into Dublin. In 1850's when Griffith's were done Patrick and Peter (if a brother) may have had property next to their father's which would indicate a close relationship. While I was doing that I came across a history page and the website of Ballymore Eustace and there was a link to www.kildare.ie/library email: kildaregenealogy.kildarecoco.ie.ie You may be interested in asking about their archives of parish records. AC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2283.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you used the www.familysearch.org and its PILOT for Australia. This is one eg: Newspaper clipping, NSW Peter Wm. Purcell died April 19, 1959 age 70 at Repariation Concord, father of Bruce and Nancye and father in law to Flora & Mick. The next census I have that identifies Irish persons is 1871 but already gone by then. However, there are census, Tipperary addresses, cemetary inscriptions and all sorts on the PILOT. www.brsgenealogy.com has most of the Irish Counties. It is free to join with a passworth then 5Euro per record. Which right now is $7.46 Auz. Once you get to your county, the top line gives birth search where you can include a father's name, sources give you what records still exist and where, and samples what you get for your money. AC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Wombat_47 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2283.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Many thanks for your assistance. The information I have on Patrick is confined to the shipping document (he came here as an Assisted Immigrant) and his burial record. It's the burial record on which I am basing his approximate birth year. I had previously looked for Patrick and his wife and her family (Hempfield/Hemfrey/Henfil/Enfield - they've been a bit of a challenge!)on the 1851 Census. Couldn't find any of them, so presume they went to Sheffield after that Census. They married Jan-Mar, 1856 Sheffield, South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding - Vol.9c, Page 257 - Recorded as Purcal & Hemfit/Henifit, so not long before embarking for Australia. The reason I am particularly interested in any siblings of Patrick is because his son, also Patrick, and his wife and young kids went from Sydney to Western Australia in the late 1890's. Picked them up in a small mining community with a Peter Purcell. A son born during their time in WA was named Daniel Peter - very unusual names for this family. I'm wondering if Patrick and Peter may have been related. WA was not terribly fussy about recording parents' names on birth and death registrations so no way of tracking Peter's family. Irish records are so sparse, I think my only chance with tracking down my relatives is to find someone else who is researching them. Or wait until I get to "the other side". Some day, some way. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2270.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: NO PERSONAL INTEREST Rory O'More, 1500 Ballina A record of a memorial of a Roger O'More in 1684 with other family information. You need to contact me via regular email, put O'More-memorial-Kildare in the subject. codeannette@yahoo.ca A bmd website for Kildare show no 'More but many sites just leave off the O'. There were both Moore and Moor Barnaby Moore 1685, Patrick 1686, Daniel 1688, John 1717 James Moore 1745, William 1755, Mary 1756, Murtagh 1757 etc. same as above-contact me. Due to the date I looked through Diocesan Will Transcrips 0, Index of Wills which often has records that early and the Deeds Registry - 0 www.familysearch.org has records from 1115 for Rory O'More but the one I checked had no information other than the dates. The PILOT of this website only had 5 records from 1860, and an all Ireland search 89 starting 1815. www.censusfinder.com United Kingdom Ireland County www.igp-web.com County usually two reliable websites for Ireland have little for Co. Kildare I have at home a CD of the births and some marriages for Ireland, few records so far I have check have records from the 1600's, usually in Northern Ireland. However, I will have a look later and get back to you. I googled "O'More - Kildare" and immediately got an history of the clan O'More: www.clanomore.com/history one of the sentences say the O' was removed by the British, my understanding is the families kept or removed it themselves as with the O'Byrnes of Co.Dublin/Wicklow etc.as it made treatment and doing business with the English easier. Many imigrants to the US, Canada etc.promptly returned the O' to their names. Annette Code 'genealogy for fun' Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2282.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I looked to a bmd online index for John Flynn Kildare None for 1849 but a 1846x2, 1848 John Joseph, 1854 22 marriages 1868, 1870, 1871, 1873 Mary Brennan 1846, 1850, 1851, 1852 marriages 1867, 1868, 1870, 1871 and 1873 then I went to www.familysearch.org and on the 02/09 *PILOT found the following: 344 records for Mary Brennan 8 records for John Flynn Usual age for marriage age 20-25 Possible marriage same year 1870 John #101251 Vol.8. Pg. 328 Athy Registration District, Laois and Kildare Counties Mary Brennan 1870 #101251 Vol.13, Pg. 291 Athy Registration District, Laois and Kildare Counties Ballylinan or Ballylynan is close to the border with Laois a mostly farming area. www.from-ireland.net has the different boundary areas, Diocese, County, Villages, Parish and Townlands. There are some marriage records under Civil Registrations but I couldn't get it to work today from 1864-1875. I have a CD of the Civil Births by the LDS *from 1864-1875, and these two may have had children after their marriage which should fit in between those dates. I will get back to you on that. The PILOT mentioned above replaces this CD which is no longer available and also has the advantage in that it give both parents names and most time mother's maiden name. www.censusfinder.com United Kingdom Ireland Co.and www.igp-web.com County usually have good records and links but Kildare has a poor showing. Annette Code 'genealogy for fun' Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2283.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I looked to a bmd index online for Patrick Purcell born in Kildare 1824 - no record - however, found the following in a General search of Ireland: Patrick Purcell's with William as a father 1810 Tipperary, 1819 Tipperary, 1837 Kilkenny. So looked for William and found 1799 Kilkenny and 2 x 1802 Kilkenny, 1803 Lough, 2 x 1803 Kilkenny and 1804. I then looked up Ballymore Co. Kildare until 1836 was part of County Dublin "in a pocket", so looking for an earlier I looked again for Patrick 1824 specifically - no record. www.familysearch.org - PILOT had both Patrick's and William's but these died in Ireland whereas Patrick went to Australia. I thought Patrick might be in the 1851 census for the UK and I have access to one that specifically identifies Irish born. No record. Here is a couple of websites for a generic search of Ireland www.censusfinder.com United Kingdom Ireland County (Kildare has little compared to other counties) www.igp-web.com County Kildare has some info. www.from-ireland.net explains land divisions by Diocese,County,Parish and Townlands. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.