This site is giving maiden names of mothers at baptisms of their children which then gives you the marriage name of her husband which is great for those marriages that occurred before 1864. Also if the marriage has occurred before 1864 and is not in the index to Irish marriages then one can assume that the couple were R/.C's. I hope that makes sense ? Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney -----Original Message----- From: irl-wexford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wexford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joyce Sent: Thursday, 29 April 2010 5:56 PM To: irl-wexford@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] LDS Website LDS have added a lot to their Pilot Website at - http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html?datestamp=120385 0297546#start including Ireland Births and Baptisms, Ireland Deaths and Ireland Marriages. Click on above and then on "Europe" on the Map for a full list. Joyce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: halfmiletown Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2279.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: was Edwards second name Patrick? Have you any idea what age he was when he died? yours Michael J. Wall Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I would just like to interject that one must be careful about assuming the origin of ones surname spelling. My husbands family surname being Fitzkee, by your observation one would assume that the name meant son of Kee. However, I have traced the family back to 1640 in Erbach, Germany and the spelling was Futzki or Fitzki. Martin Fitzki was known to have come over the border of Poland/Russia into the Germany.. Further search reveals his most likely family connection there was Vietzky. In a message dated 4/27/2010 3:06:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, irl-kildare-request@rootsweb.com writes: It is 'anglo-norman' for son of.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2270.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a cousin who insists that Fitz attached to a name meant they were born on the wrong side of the blanket and I believed her as she is quite the historian and reads a lot of British history. It is 'anglo-norman' for son of. AC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: akabarney Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2270.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: CORRECTION to my previous post today - I stated in error that "mac" refers to "first born". NOT TRUE. The term "mac" merely means "son". There is no difference between adopted son and directly descended unless stated. The term "Fitz" means first-born. Sorry to have misled you. - Stan - Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: akabarney Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2270.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Annette ~ I have been tracing my Barnhill ancestors for several years. The O'Mores (found since 1730 in the colonies as "Moore") kept track of their predecessors by the use of the prefix, "mac", meaning "first-born". Some information is contained in the International Genealogical Index, available at Ancestry dot com. Here are some of my conclusions: In 1548 Gillpatrick mac Connell mac Melaghlin O'More, lord of Leix, died. In 1558, Rory Oge O'More became Lord of Leix at age 20. His wife's name was Jane (sometimes called "Genet") Barnewall, grand-daughter of one of my ancestors. Jane died about 1577. I can only find two children, Anne and Shane. On September 30th 1578, Shane mac Rory O'More submitted, along with Teig McGilpatrick O'Conor, at Castledermot in Kilkenny. I believe the next month, Rory was hanged at Dublin Castle. Jane, his wife was descended from the Barnewalls of Dublin (Dublin Castle). This is not so odd, as you study the O'Mores, you will find they mostly fough! t amongst themselves and their near relatives. I believe this is the main reason the line nearly became extinct in 1641. The "Ellenor" you refer to in your post COULD be Eleanor Barnewall (b. 1584), daughter of Sir Patrick Barnewall and Mary Bagnall. I have found no proof of this yet. In researching these blue-blood families, please take into account the fact that marriage licenses were sometimes granted before the individual reached the age of ten. This was done to guarantee the continuance of title in case there were no surviving adult male members of the family. (slain in battle). So, if it looks like a boy was married at age nine, it just means his parents arranged the marriage when he was nine years old. That's about all I have, and I will continue to pick through my sources. - Stan - Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ChristopherNeil99 Surnames: OToole Doyle Connolly Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2179.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Maureen the census records are very unreliable for ages but are great for grouping people together. I have used the research facility in Kildaire and they were excellent in tracing my great grandparents Patrick Connolly and Mary Doyle. Their daughter Mary married Michael OToole (soldier) in 1918. I then went to Dublin and obtained all their birth records from the GRO. Good luck Chris Neil Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: robmee Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/1099.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for taking the time to reply. I appreciate your giving me the email address. Robby Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bari_burke Surnames: CONNELL, O'CONNELL, DORAN, McCANN Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/1099.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I obtained Baptismal records from Balyna Parish in person last summer, for the surnames CONNELL [4 O'CONNELL sibs arrived in NYC in 1851--James, Anne, Eliza and Daniel], DORAN [John came to NYC], and McCANN. It helps if you know the birth year. The parents of my four Irish emigrants 1851-1858 was James CONNELL and Anne DORAN, married in another parish circa 1827. Here are two online addresses: balynaparish@eircom.net; Catherine Wynne finds records Parish Website: www.balynaparish.ie This includes St. Patrick's Church of Johnstownbridge, St. Mary's Church of Broadford, and St. Brigid's Church of Clogherinkoe. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tishfish Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/291.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Susan, the birth dates are very close to each other possibly cousins. If I find a link, which would be great, I'll let you know. All the best Ken Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Breda44 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/291.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The only Jubilee named Cottages were at Jubilee Tce and now demolished. Situated on the Naas Rd opposite the Technical School between where the Old Folks Centre & the Fire Station stands today. The Tce consisted of 4 Cottages. Residents were 2 unmarried sisters who lived next door to each other namely Miss Purcell & Ms Mitchell, The Kennys and a retired Guard (Policeman) Mr Fitsgerald. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: maureencruz99 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2179.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Chris, Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately I know nothing about my gt.grandmothers family. On the 1901 census, filled in I think by her husband, she is down as born in Co.Dublin and is 48 yrs old. 10 years later, in 1911, filled in by herself, she is a 53 year of widow, born in Co.Kildare. She died two years later and is down as 56 years old, so take your pick. Of her two surviving children, one was my grandmother, Mary Josephine Phillips and the other her brother, Michael, could Michael be a family name as your relative married a Michael O'Toole. The only clue I have is in the book 'History of the Clan O'Toole' by the Rev.P.L. O'Toole, published privately in 1897/8'ish. My grandfather is listed as a subscriber. My mother told me that my grandmother could trace her ancestry through this. However, the Rev. gentleman hardly mentioned the names of any daughters, only sons were graced with christian names, so I've had no joy there. If you would like to see this book it is onlin! e on the LDS site, click on search records and on the drop down menu, historical books. I will keep you in mind if I find out any more info. Cheers, Maureen Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ChristopherNeil99 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/579.599.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You posted this some years ago but my grandmother was a Connolly born in Kildare in 1883. Her name was Anne, (Annie) Connolly and she was the 2nd daughter behind Ellen of Patrick Connolly born 1856 and Rose Doyle 1865 of Calverstown Chris neil Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ChristopherNeil99 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2179.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know if there is any connection but my grandmother was from Kildare and her sister Rose Connolly married a Michael O'Toole in December 1918 in Kildare. His occupation on the marriage record shows as "soldier" Chris Neil Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ChristopherNeil99 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2286.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Annette I have re-checked the information I put in my original post and realise I made an error, should have been: Patrick Connolly B 1856 married Rose Doyle b1865 in 1880 Rose Connolly married Michael O'Toole in Dec1918 Ellen Mary was born 1881 I have been to the records office in Dublin and obtained copies of birth records for everyone and the marriage of Rose & Patrick and of the daughter Rose to Michael O'Toole. The second daughter of Patrick and Rose, Anne,was my grandmother and I have discovered that she must have left Ireland before the 1901 census or at least she was not at home as she does not show on the census and she married my grandfather in 1903 in Liscard Wallasey. I am hoping to find any living descendents who may be interested to know what happened to Anne as I have recently discovered details of her life and death and only a few weeks ago visited her grave which is near Chester. Thank you for your response and I am considering visiting Kildare this year as I am going to Hook in Wexford. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rosemarykopczynski Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/282.272.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ned Dunne did not have a brother named Thomas..there was a Lawrence, Patrick, John and George Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rosemarykopczynski Surnames: tierney/dunne Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/282.272.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I just read with interest an old post of yours from 2001 in which you mention Alicia Dunne, the daughter of Ned Dunne and Ellen Walshe. Their son, Thomas, who came to America in the 1870's was my great grandfather. His daughter Nellie married Charles Reitemeyer and his other daughter, Mary was my grandmother. He also had 2 sons, Lawrence and William. William died when a baby and Lawrence died in the early 1930's. Do you have any information on Ellen Walshe's history. I would be very happy to hear from you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: drmillhous1 Surnames: Hyland, Keys, Campbell, Murphy Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/2240.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi there. I'm interested in both. I would like to find more of my ancestors and trade any information with descendants. I have recently found that John Hyland's (b. 1830) parents were Martin Hyland and Catherine Campbell. Margaret Keys' (b. 1834) parents were John Keys and Mary Murphy. Both families were from Kildare, probably Maynooth. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AnnetteCode Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.britisles.ireland.kid.general/200.197.203.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi: Not related in any way but was interested in Byrne's of Wicklow, I have a fair amount of information on some Byrne's that lived on the Coollattin Estate of Earl Fitzwilliam. However, these folks lived to the east of the estate. I have rentals records and leases, birth, deaths and marriages from the s.w. of Wicklow. Townlands surrounding Shillelagh/Tinehely area. I looked up the birth of Annie Kelly as I thought she would be one who would be in the Civil Registrations 1864-1875 that I have on a CD. Unless there are another John Kelly and Anne O'Hohan (Many John and Anne Kelly's) the Anne Kelly I found: is Anne Kelly born Ashford, Wicklow to John Kelly and Ann Oulaghan #255930 FHL (microfilm) I looked for marriages and there were many but none with Ann Oulaghan, Protestant marriages were recorded from 1850-1862 when Civil Registration required all religions to register with the government. I went through many gravestone inscriptions for John Kelly's Annie Kelly's, Edward and Catherine Kelly's but none I could be sure were the right families. Eg: Window donated by John and Annie Kelly in memory of parents, relatives and friends. No dates no names, Hollywood Church St. Kevin's RC. These inscriptions go to 1899, unless some member of the same family died after 1899 and were interred in the same place. There are newer inscriptions on several websites: www.ancestorsatrest.com; www.interment.net; www.igp-web.com Wicklow. The Latter Day Saints Civil Registration CD I have has been replaced on www.familysearch.org by the 02/09 PILOT but it doesn't come with parents names. No others were listed. There are some marriages, births and deaths on www.from-ireland.net and the explanation of civil registrations etc. The village of Ashford is in the Rathnew Parish according to from-ireland. It is just north of Rathnew which is just inland from Wicklow Town. Rathdrum was both a town and a Registration District. I stayed in Rathdrum about 3 years ago now to do my husband's family history. Griffith Valuations of 1854: Because I couldn't find just one John Kelly - many these would just be eg: Lower Newcastle Parish, Killmullin Townland: 1a Thomas Byrne, tenant of Earl Fitzwilliam house,land and office 60Acres 2 roods 10perches 2. John Kelly tenant of above Thomas Byrne house and garden 0.3.20 Parish of Delgany, Templecarrig Townland 1a Peter Kelly tenant James Simms house,office,land 33.3.7 2a Patrick Kelly tenant " " house,office,land 54.3.32 3 Patrick Kelly tenant James Simms land 9.0.28 -a John Kelly, tenant Patrick Kelly - house 4 Patrick kelly tenant Earl of Meath land 3.3.1 Newcastle Upper, Callowhill Townland 2. John Kelly tenant Robt.B.Cunninghame, house,land&off 92A.1.8 Newcastle Upper, Kilday 1 a Laurence Kelly tenant Henry Darley h.o.land 158.3.36 b John Kelly tenant Laurence Kelly - house Newcastle Upper, Knockfada 10A Terence Holohan tenant R.B.Dunninghame land 4.3.10 Ba house,office,land 116.1.20 Parish of Rathnew, Ballynerrin 11a Michael Holohan tenant of John Chapman house & garden 0.2.10 Annette Code 'genealogy for fun' Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.