Here's some more on Lawrence O'Connor from the bibliography in Rebellion In Kildare: "The martyr of liberty: a poem of the heroic death of Lawrence O'Connor, executed at Naas in Ireland on a charge of High Treason, Sept. 7th, 1796" Charles Hamilton Teeling, Dublin, 1798 "Lawrence O'Connor-a Meath schoolmaster", Irish Ecclesiastical Record, vol. XLIX (1937), pp. 281-7 "A Rebel Schoolmaster (Lawrence O'Connor, executed at Naas in 1795" in Irish Booklover, vol. XXVI (Nov.-Dec. 1938, p. 61 Kevin Kerwin ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Rebellion in Kildare > Thank you Kevin! I will most definately try to get hold of a copy for myself. Very interesting because my earliest O'Connor/Connor was Patrick O'Connor- my great great grandfather, born in 1798 at Blakestown. He must have been the eldest son because he "inherited" the farm ( Blakestown was 350 hectares and they raised thoroughbred horses.) Since they were Catholic, I am not sure just when they actually began to own the land, but it started out as an outfarm of the Carton Estate- it is adjacent to Carton. Patrick is listed as Patrick CONNOR in Griffiths so it must have been either Connor or O'Connor- but was definately O'Connor by mid 1800's. The very intesting thing is that Patrick had a daughter who married a Byrne! Perhaps there was a long standing relationship between the O'Connors and the Byrnes! Also- my cousin was in Ireland while Intel was renovating House of Blakestown and spoke with the workmen and was told that they found lots of old guns and ammuniti! > on hidden in the walls of the house!!! Perhaps we have hit on some of the history of why! Again - thank you so much- I will persue this some more! > Maura Foster > Virginia- USA > > -------------- Original message from "Kevin Kerwin" : -------------- > > > Bingo! Don't know about the locale, but here is what it says from page 38: > > "In late 1796 convicts on a prison ship at Cobh offered to give information > > on Defenderism in Kildare {that is, the United Defenders}. In October they > > contacted a Cork doctor through John Kenny a fellow convict. He wrote: > > They are two Defenders and their names is [sic] Patrick Connor and > > Edward Byrne. They say they can make information against thirty men in the > > county of Kildare for high treason and Defenderism and will from that the > > leading men come into the informant's houses and gave them powder balls and > > guns for the purpose of entering gentlemen's housesand say that when they > > refused to be concerned that they threatened their lives in case of their > > refusal and informed them that the high sheriff of the county of Kildare > > (Mr. Aylmer) and a Mr. Brown(e) were Defenders and if they were not that > > they should not live in that county" (this paragraph from a letter of Robert > > Harding , Cork, to Edward Cooke, Dec. 10, 1796 to be found in National > > Archives SOC 1015/28) > > There are several O'Connors, which I will follow with in another e-mail. > > > > Kevin Kerwin > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 10:26 AM > > Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Rebellion in Kildare > > > > > > > Kevin- Any O'connor or Connor mentioned. They lived in Blakestown- an > > outfarm of the Carton Estate not far from Leixlip/ Property is now part > > of Intel corp. But the old family home "Blakestown House " has been > > refurbished and is still there on the property! Maura Foster- Virginia- > > USA > > > > > > -------------- Original message from "Kevin Kerwin" : -------------- > > > > > > > Sorry, no SWORDS mentioned. > > > > > > > > Kevin Kerwin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 3:06 PM > > > > Subject: [Irl-Kildare] Rebellion in Kildare > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > I have never heard of this reference. Can you check to see if the > > Swords > > > > > family is mentioned? > > > > > > > > > > Colleen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > > You can manage your RootsWeb-Review subscription from > > > > > http://newsletters.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Hi Kathleen- There is quite a lot about Keating. The Reverend John Keating: The Orange Order [a group of loyalists] formed a number of Lodges in 1798. "A number of Kildare men joined the Dublin Lodge No. 176 at an early date in 1798. John Montgomery, who acted as Kildare Grand Master and his neighbor Revd John Keating both lived near Naas." Maurice Keatinge is mentioned on 22 pages. He was elected to the Irish Parliament along with Edward Fitzgerald in 1790. Keatinge was from Narraghmore. You might want to get the book (Rebellion In Kildare, 1790-1803, Liam Chambers, Four Courts Press, Dublin 1998) to read all about him. Reverend Dean Cadogen Keatinge voted against the 1796 Insurrection Act, which allowed two or more justices to declare martial law in a local area undergoing insurrection. The meeting was held in Naas on 5/8/1797. Cheers, Kevin Kerwin ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 9:42 PM Subject: [Irl-Kildare] Rebellion in Kildare > Could you please look for anyone named Keating. > > Thanks, Kathleen > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Could you please look for anyone named Keating. Thanks, Kathleen

Hi Kevin, Thanks for the explanation of how your family got to St. Louis. I enjoyed it. Didn't know you lived in NO - I have Kerwin relatives in my family, as follows: Edward Fitzpatrick (son of my gr gr grandfather Peter who immigrated to NO from Co. Louth) b. 26 Oct. 1869 N.O., La - bapt. 19 Dec 1869 at Sts. Peter and Paul Church, New Orleans, LA; Sponsors Michael Murray and Mary Brennon d. 17 June 1936 (67yrs. old) m. Mary E. Fals Kerwin. b. 1869 d. 31 Oct. 1922 (53 years. old) St. Vincent de Paul. She had two children James C. & Richard Kerwin. Edward was a policeman and wife Mary was a midwife and they lived at 1236 Mandeville. Half sister Mary Ann lived with Edward from 1927 till 1934. This info was taken from our family web site at members.tripod.com/FitzpatrickNO. If you think you can connect, let me know. Colleen

Hi Colleen- According to several published biographies of my g-grandfather about the time he was a State Senator, he "spent some time in New York before settling in St. Louis in 1849". My uncle thinks he came through Buffalo rather than NYC, but I have been unable to verify either of these through passengers lists, directories, or censuses. Unfortunately mu uncle was born 20 years after his death, so no personal contact to be had there. The other route that seems to have been popular is to Canada through Quebec or Montreal, then either through the Great Lakes to Toledo or Chicago, then by train or coach to St. Louis. I have found several mentions of people from Kildare going through Canada, as it was about 25% cheaper than through New York. I lived in New Orleans myself for 10 years, and there are several Kerwin families there that I don't think are related. One guy even had my same first name, and I got his summonses and nasty phone calls! He even got arrested for boating while intoxicated on a weekend I was out of town-all my sailing friends thought it was me! I've been perusing the records you have posted, but have not found anything so far. But the directories may be a help-they have been my best source for St. Louis. I have just recently found some Kerwins who worked on the river, and these may be a match to some in New Orleans. Wasn't the Jeannie Johnson a neat ship? I visited it when I was in Ireland summer before last. It really helps you get the experience of what immigration was like. Where y'at, dawlin'-Kevin Kerwin ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 4:33 AM Subject: [Irl-Kildare] Irish in St. Louis > Hi Kevin, > > It's me again. > > Regarding your relatives in St. Louis. Do you ahve evidence that your family > came through NY, or are you just guessing? From my experience, there is a > 95% chance they got to St Louis through the Port of New Orleans. This was by > far the easiest and most direct route to get there. Have you ever checked this > out? > > >From my in depth study of the New Orleans public hospital records, I have > found that 70% of the admissions were Irish, many just arriving in town. The > admission records give place of birth (even the name of the county), the age, > name, date of admission, occupation, date of death or discharge, how long in New > Orleans, where the person was beforehand, how long they were in town, their > marital status, what disease they had, and what time they were admitted. > Sometimes there is also a remark included. I have seen many entries indicating that > the person had been in St. Louis or had relatives in St. Louis or that seemed > to indicate they worked the river between NO and St. Louis. When I have > posted any of these records, there have been many repsonses telling me they were > surprised to find their relatives in this hospital. I have transcribed > Janurary 1851 through the beginning of Nov 1851 and they are posted on our site at: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/la/orleans.htm > > Our site also has the ALL Louisiana State birth, marriage, and death indexes > for Orleans Parish (New Orleans) covering births (1796 - 1902, the last > available), marriages (1870 - 1915 about) and deaths (1804 - 1915 about). These are > the same as on Ancestry, but they are free. There are over 2M entries that > we have been posting over the last four years or so. We also have complete > city directories from several years, the latest being 1851. We are now working > on 1861. > > If you think your stayed long enough to be in the city directory, I have a > complete set through 1899 at my FHC and can do lookups. > > I also have the passenger list index from New Orleans, but it is good only > 1853 and later. However, I just found out that earlier records have been > indexed by the John F. Kennedy Trust. I was in Co. Wexford recently and was able to > visit the replica of the famine ship in New Ross where they allow you access > to their database of passenger arrives from the late 1840s and beyond. The > assistants told me that the database had been sold to a company in NY (will have > to find the name) and that maybe Ancestry had it now. Don't know but you > could find more info by search on JFK Trust. > > I will end for now, but if I can help you in any of this, let me know. > > Colleen > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

P.S.: There are still a lot of Whelans and Dowlings around Kilkea, Moone, and Athy. Kevin Kerwin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Kenna" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 8:48 PM Subject: [Irl-Kildare] Kildare > Kevin > Your book seems to be the biggest hit in Kildare. I looked for it on Amazon, and the lowest price was $95. I have Kenna, Whelan and Owens back to about 1840. You did mention finding Whelans in late 1700. Please, at your convenience, could you check my other tw,??? > Thanks for all the help you have given to others. > Ed kenna > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Ed- Yes, there are Kenna and Whelans but no Owens. Kevin Whelan is mentioned, but he is a modern historian researching the Rebellion of 1798. His book, from the bibliography, is Endurance and Emergence: Catholics in Ireland in the Eighteenth Century, Dublin, 1990-written with T.P. Power. "Patrick Whelan of Athy fought under Patrick Dowling in 1798 and was later involved in robberies in both Dublin and Kildare. He believed the county was organised by July 1803 by 'new laws, new tests, new regulations' " Source: "Information to Patrick Whelan, 1804-Rebellion Papers 620/50/38/57, National Archives, Dublin" There are 7 pages on Matthew Kenna. You might want to get a copy of the book for that one. He was from Birstown, near Kilkea and Moone (just south and east of Athy, respectively, which is in the southwest part of the county) Looks like you may be descended from the rebellious rabble...let me know if you come across any blacksmiths named Kirwan or a similar spelling. Cheers, Kevin Kerwin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Kenna" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 8:48 PM Subject: [Irl-Kildare] Kildare > Kevin > Your book seems to be the biggest hit in Kildare. I looked for it on Amazon, and the lowest price was $95. I have Kenna, Whelan and Owens back to about 1840. You did mention finding Whelans in late 1700. Please, at your convenience, could you check my other tw,??? > Thanks for all the help you have given to others. > Ed kenna > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Sorry for the delaay in answering, I am disabled and need to get at some papers to answer your question on MARY KNIGHT. Will get my husband to have a look for me as soon as possible. In the meantime please can you have a look to see if you have any McVeigh listed for the rebellion? MARY KNIGHT was born 18th October 1874 her Parents were MICHAEL KNIGHT and KATHERINE SHEPPARD. (my Great Grandparents.)I have a lot more but not going back only forward to the present day.They were baptised at MONASTEREVIN County Kildare. Hope this will be of some help Val -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Kerwin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 03 August 2004 14:01 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Rebellion in Kildare No Knights or Salmons, but I am descended from a Mary E. or B. Knight (b. either 4/1835 or 2/15/1836, d. 2/23/1909) who married my g-grandfather Daniel Anthony in 1854. Her father owned the first boiler brick factory west of the Mississippi. They came from Pennsylvania, per the census. Don't know much else, but would be interested to know if you have anything along these lines. Kevin Kerwin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val Earnshaw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 6:40 AM Subject: RE: [Irl-Kildare] Rebellion in Kildare > > > ---Please can you have a look and see if there are any Knight or Salmon > family names mentioned; thank you for your time and trouble. > Please E-mail me at [email protected] Val > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 __________ NOD32 1.830 (20040802) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com

Hi Kevin, It's me again. Regarding your relatives in St. Louis. Do you ahve evidence that your family came through NY, or are you just guessing? From my experience, there is a 95% chance they got to St Louis through the Port of New Orleans. This was by far the easiest and most direct route to get there. Have you ever checked this out? From my in depth study of the New Orleans public hospital records, I have found that 70% of the admissions were Irish, many just arriving in town. The admission records give place of birth (even the name of the county), the age, name, date of admission, occupation, date of death or discharge, how long in New Orleans, where the person was beforehand, how long they were in town, their marital status, what disease they had, and what time they were admitted. Sometimes there is also a remark included. I have seen many entries indicating that the person had been in St. Louis or had relatives in St. Louis or that seemed to indicate they worked the river between NO and St. Louis. When I have posted any of these records, there have been many repsonses telling me they were surprised to find their relatives in this hospital. I have transcribed Janurary 1851 through the beginning of Nov 1851 and they are posted on our site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/la/orleans.htm Our site also has the ALL Louisiana State birth, marriage, and death indexes for Orleans Parish (New Orleans) covering births (1796 - 1902, the last available), marriages (1870 - 1915 about) and deaths (1804 - 1915 about). These are the same as on Ancestry, but they are free. There are over 2M entries that we have been posting over the last four years or so. We also have complete city directories from several years, the latest being 1851. We are now working on 1861. If you think your stayed long enough to be in the city directory, I have a complete set through 1899 at my FHC and can do lookups. I also have the passenger list index from New Orleans, but it is good only 1853 and later. However, I just found out that earlier records have been indexed by the John F. Kennedy Trust. I was in Co. Wexford recently and was able to visit the replica of the famine ship in New Ross where they allow you access to their database of passenger arrives from the late 1840s and beyond. The assistants told me that the database had been sold to a company in NY (will have to find the name) and that maybe Ancestry had it now. Don't know but you could find more info by search on JFK Trust. I will end for now, but if I can help you in any of this, let me know. Colleen

Hi Kevin, When I wrote earlier, I did not have time to give the details of the FHL microfilm on Kildare, but here they are. Go to www.familysearch.org. They have changed the site a little. In the right column, under Familt History Library System, click on the third item down, Search the Family History Library Catalog for records and resources. Then click on Film/Fiche Search. Enter the fiche number 926104. This will bring up the page for Allen Parish, as well as the rest of the parishes on the film. Title details ('Parochial registers of Allen (Kildare ') In the past, when I have done a search on location, it has been hard to find the page for Allen Parish for some reason. But this will get you there. Let me konw if you have any other questions. Colleen

Ed, Try www.abebooks.com Kathy At 08:48 PM 8/6/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Kevin >Your book seems to be the biggest hit in Kildare. I looked for it on >Amazon, and the lowest price was $95. I have Kenna, Whelan and Owens back >to about 1840. You did mention finding Whelans in late 1700. Please, at >your convenience, could you check my other tw,??? >Thanks for all the help you have given to others. >Ed kenna > > >============================== >Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration >Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Kevin Your book seems to be the biggest hit in Kildare. I looked for it on Amazon, and the lowest price was $95. I have Kenna, Whelan and Owens back to about 1840. You did mention finding Whelans in late 1700. Please, at your convenience, could you check my other tw,??? Thanks for all the help you have given to others. Ed kenna

Kevin- This is a long shot, but I remember my Mother talking about her friend named "Dorothy Kerwin" who lived int the New York area ( perhaps Brooklyn) in the early 1940s. Dot had a son named Jimmy and I believe another son named Kevin. My mother was Kathleen O'Connor. Just wondering if its the same family. -------------- Original message from "Kevin Kerwin" : -------------- > I am afraid it is pretty true. Much of my Irish research has been from > before 1843, and with the exception of local church records, convict > transportation lists, the Tithe List, the Rebellion Papers, some Wills, and > the grave transcriptions in the county genealogy centers, there is little > else unless you happen to be descended from nobility. I guess with the > exception of births and marriages, you had to interact with the government > in some way to get documented, and with a large percentage who couldn't read > or write, that didn't happen unless they were arrested. Also part of the > reason is that mostly only the nobility owned land, and only land owners > could vote; the Guilds controlled the trades, at least in the large cities, > and unless you lived in large city there was little need for a directory. It > makes for very interesting detective work, though...and I've also learned a > lot about why the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights say what they do, > and why we have specific rights granted that our forefathers did not enjoy. > > Cheers, Kevin Kerwin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Jost-Shouse" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 3:04 PM > Subject: [Irl-Kildare] Research in County Kildare pre-1849 > > > > I am researching the Holton and Welsh families and have been told that it > > is very hard to find anything pre-1849, when my Holton's immigrated. I was > > just wondering if others on the list had been able to research back > further > > or if that's true. > > > > > > > > Kathy > > Florida > > http://terri9.home.mindspring.com/Jost/Jostindex.htm > > Researching: Jost, Petry, Peter, Freunscht, Koob, Moller, Schroeder, Urban > > Holton, Welsh, Springsteel, Stinson, Hard, Whelan > > Graham, White/Whyte, Robertson, Earston > > Johnson, Stevens, Glen, Mabie/Mabee, Peek, Sanders, Van Dyke, Van Eps, Van > > Patten, Van Slyke, Van Vorst, Wendel > > Davis, Folts, Lott, Sutphin, Lapdon > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

In Musgave's Memoirs of the Irish Rebellion of 1798 there is mention of Hugh McEvoy who was a foreman in the cotton works at Prosperous, Co Kildare, also his son James McEvoy. Terry Arthur, Tyne & Wear, England.

http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/ This site gives all the details of known Irish Catholic Parish Records and where copies are held. Under Browse click on to Catholic parish records and a county map of Ireland appears. Click on to the county and a map of the catholic parishes appears. Finally click on the parish and all the details appear. Terry Arthur, Tyne & Wear, England.

Sorry, no Tector's in the book. That sounds like a rare one-never seen the name before. Cheers, Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 5:57 AM Subject: [Irl-Kildare] Rebellion > Hi there Kevin, > Is there any mention of Tector in your book? > Many thanks.........Regards Harry > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Sorry, no McEvoys mentioned-but I have seen the name in Athy a couple of years ago. Cheers, Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: [Irl-Kildare] Rebellion in Kildare > G'day Kevin > Is there any mention of McEVOYS? > cheers > Lyn > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Nope-we're from St. Louis since 1849. I think everyone went through New York but didn't stay. Thanks anyway. Cheers, Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Research in County Kildare pre-1849 > Kevin- This is a long shot, but I remember my Mother talking about her friend named "Dorothy Kerwin" who lived int the New York area ( perhaps Brooklyn) in the early 1940s. Dot had a son named Jimmy and I believe another son named Kevin. My mother was Kathleen O'Connor. Just wondering if its the same family. > > -------------- Original message from "Kevin Kerwin" : -------------- > > > I am afraid it is pretty true. Much of my Irish research has been from > > before 1843, and with the exception of local church records, convict > > transportation lists, the Tithe List, the Rebellion Papers, some Wills, and > > the grave transcriptions in the county genealogy centers, there is little > > else unless you happen to be descended from nobility. I guess with the > > exception of births and marriages, you had to interact with the government > > in some way to get documented, and with a large percentage who couldn't read > > or write, that didn't happen unless they were arrested. Also part of the > > reason is that mostly only the nobility owned land, and only land owners > > could vote; the Guilds controlled the trades, at least in the large cities, > > and unless you lived in large city there was little need for a directory. It > > makes for very interesting detective work, though...and I've also learned a > > lot about why the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights say what they do, > > and why we have specific rights granted that our forefathers did not enjoy. > > > > Cheers, Kevin Kerwin > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kathy Jost-Shouse" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 3:04 PM > > Subject: [Irl-Kildare] Research in County Kildare pre-1849 > > > > > > > I am researching the Holton and Welsh families and have been told that it > > > is very hard to find anything pre-1849, when my Holton's immigrated. I was > > > just wondering if others on the list had been able to research back > > further > > > or if that's true. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kathy > > > Florida > > > http://terri9.home.mindspring.com/Jost/Jostindex.htm > > > Researching: Jost, Petry, Peter, Freunscht, Koob, Moller, Schroeder, Urban > > > Holton, Welsh, Springsteel, Stinson, Hard, Whelan > > > Graham, White/Whyte, Robertson, Earston > > > Johnson, Stevens, Glen, Mabie/Mabee, Peek, Sanders, Van Dyke, Van Eps, Van > > > Patten, Van Slyke, Van Vorst, Wendel > > > Davis, Folts, Lott, Sutphin, Lapdon > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Dear Colleen, How did you get to the film number of Allen Parish? I tried but only got so far as the list of church records; the page says there is no circulation to local FHC's and it does not go further into the listing to show individual parishes. Did you do something else? The film notes only get as far as the general list film number, which is not the one you refer to. Kevin Kerwin ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Research in County Kildare pre-1849 > HI Kathy, > > It depends. The FHL has the church records of several RC parishes from Co. > Kildare on micorfilm. Go to www.familysearch.org. Click on Search. Then click > on Library Catalog. The oldest records are for Allen Parish, going back to > 1820. Other parishes such as Carragh, Kildare, Staplestown, Clane and > Rathscoffey don't go as far back. > > The microfilm number you want is 926104 I think. > > You might want to write to the Kildare Heritage Center, too. I wrote them > for an initial search, and once they found my family had been located in > Killmeague in Allen Parish, I was able to continue the research on my own through the > FHL. As of a couple of years ago, my understanding was that all the records > from all the Parishes had been turned in to the Center except for one Parish > in the north of the county. I have seen the address of the Parish Priest on > the list. You can write him directly. He did not want to turn over his records > to the Center because he thought they were making a lot of money off of them. > Of course, they weren't. > > The link to the Kildare Heritage Center is: > > http://www.kildare.ie/library/kildareheritage/ > > Colleen > > > > Colleen > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi Val- No, there are no McVeighs listed. And my g-grandmother Mary Knight Kerwin was born about 1835 or a few years earlier in Pennsylvania (I think I might have told you that). Her father was Richard Knight. Cheers, Kevin Kerwin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val Earnshaw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 7:36 AM Subject: RE: [Irl-Kildare] Rebellion in Kildare > Sorry for the delaay in answering, I am disabled and need to get at some > papers to answer your question on MARY KNIGHT. Will get my husband to have a > look for me as soon as possible. In the meantime please can you have a look > to see if you have any McVeigh listed for the rebellion? > MARY KNIGHT was born 18th October 1874 her Parents were MICHAEL KNIGHT and > KATHERINE SHEPPARD. (my Great Grandparents.)I have a lot more but not going > back only forward to the present day.They were baptised at MONASTEREVIN > County Kildare. Hope this will be of some help Val > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Kerwin [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 03 August 2004 14:01 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Rebellion in Kildare > > > No Knights or Salmons, but I am descended from a Mary E. or B. Knight (b. > either 4/1835 or 2/15/1836, d. 2/23/1909) who married my g-grandfather > Daniel Anthony in 1854. Her father owned the first boiler brick factory west > of the Mississippi. They came from Pennsylvania, per the census. Don't know > much else, but would be interested to know if you have anything along these > lines. > > Kevin Kerwin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Val Earnshaw" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 6:40 AM > Subject: RE: [Irl-Kildare] Rebellion in Kildare > > > > > > > > ---Please can you have a look and see if there are any Knight or Salmon > > family names mentioned; thank you for your time and trouble. > > Please E-mail me at [email protected] Val > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > __________ NOD32 1.830 (20040802) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.nod32.com > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >