Ian Thank you for your quick response - I have forwarded your mail to Pauline. From what I can gather over the telephone the message said something about Rich Text v Plain Text. Pauline is a fairly new comer and I think it could also be possble that it may have been sent to a wrong address. I.E. List / Request / etc. Now something for myself I wonder if you would be kind enough to answer a question for me -- It is highly likley that some of my ancestors came from Newton Ards ( I am not sure if that is the correct spelling). Could you point me in the right direction as to which mailing list I should subscribe to. Thanks Again AudreyM PS I am an active member of the Cumberland Mailing List who are embarking on - setting up a One Place Study for Cumberland and Westmorland. Similar to _http://www.dorset-opc.com/_ (http://www.dorset-opc.com/)

Hello Everyone My friend Pauline Stanley has asked me to send the following posting, which she tells me has already been posted 4 times. Pauline has asked me to say that on each occasion her mail was bounced back. If this arrives safe and secure could someone please explain why this might have happened. (I have subscribed to the site in order to see if I faired any better) Regards Thank You Audrey M Below is Paulines copied email. _________________________________________________ Hi I am new to this list and would like to tell you my interests. Great Grand Father Samuel Brown - born Clane & Timahoe North Kildare Married Bridget Coghlan in approx 1863 They had the following Children Ann born 1860 Julia 1863 William 1863 Thomas 1864 Catherine 1868 Mary 1871 at Widnes in England Martha 1876 I would like to find the parents of both Samuel and Bridget and what their lives were like in the period 1868 when Catherine was born in Ireland and their move to England I have much information on this family after they arrived in Widnes but would love details of their lives in Ireland If this makes any connection with any one this would be just great Pauline Stanley

Trying to locate the parents of Catherine Byrne born Kildare Town 1820, first names may be john and Mary. Any help appreciated. Thanks Janine South Australia

Hello everyone,Keep up the great work, these lists are so informative. Looking for info on my Grandparents John Kinsella & Annie O'Reilly. I have been to Ireland & Dublin registry twice but can't find their marriage.Would appreciate any help or suggestions. Thanks everyone Mary Stokes Melbourne, Australia.

I am researching the BURROW(E)S family and would be interested to hear from anyone with information between 1750 and 1850. Any connections with the following, in particular, would be most welcome. 1. Doctor Thomas BURROWS b. abt 1801 Ireland. Married Jane MOTHERWELL and had at least 4 children, Thomas, Alexander, William and Emma - born mid 1830's - 1840. Dr. Thomas BURROWS died 6th August 1883 aged 81 and is buried in Ballysumaghan, Sligo county, Ireland. His wife died 10th December 1875 aged 66. 2. Thomas BURROWES b. 26th July 1801 Dundalk, Louth to Lt. Johnston BURROWES and Mary BURROWES (nee DEVEREUX). 3. Andrew BURROWES b. abt 1813 County Sligo. Convicted of highway robbery and sentenced 1835 to life in NSW Australia. Transported on the ship "Hive" which was shipwrecked and finally arrived Sydney 24th December 1835. Regards David Burrows Australia

Dear listers, looking for info on John Kinsella & Annie O'reilly from Naas Co. KildareThey had two sons Thomas Benedict ( my Father) born 24/1/1915 James born 1917. Thomas married Mary Ellen Dunphy in Dublin in 1942. Having difficulty finding marriage of Annie & John If anyone can help please email me on or off list. Thanking you Mary Stokes Melbourne, Australia

Hello Terry, Yes, I agree with you that Clune could be Clane; there are many documents here that have these sorts of errors in them. With many different nations from overseas coming to Australia in the 1800's with different accents and at times no English the written word was often misspelt or misheard. This lead to errors, and or at times coupled with incompetence of some scribes, even laziness on their part. I am sure they came from Clane after carefully culling through the documents I have, as one or two spell it Clane, at first I though it was 2 different areas but now know it is one and the same, thank you for you help in this matter. The Peter Mackey and Michael Carroll you note are too late to be my ancestors; however, they could be descendants of the same families. In the early 1800, would Clane have been a village or a small town? I know it is classed as a City now. Thank you for your help, Regards, Jill J -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] When you say Clune could it be Clane? In the Primary Valuation of 1852 there was a Peter Macky (sic) listed in townland of Loughbollard Commons, parish of Clane, also close by in the same parish at Firmount West a Michael Carroll. There is no townland or parish listed with the name Clune in the whole of Ireland in the Townland Index of 1851. Terry Arthur.

Jill at [email protected] writes: << In the early 1800, would Clane have been a village or a small town? I know it is classed as a City now. >> Jill, Clane was classified as a town in the Townlands Listings of the mid-1800's, so it was probably in the same category a few decades earlier when the Irish population was even greater. As for Clane being a City....... only in the residents' dreams <gr>. Clane doesn't even make it onto the list of towns and cities in Ireland (2002) with populations over 3000. There are only 5 or 6 cities in the Republic (depending on how you feel about Kilkenny and their charter). Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Good day to this list. My name is Jill Jackson I live in Sydney NSW, Australia, I have just joined this List. I am searching for information pre 1850's Kildare, for my Ancestors the MACKEY & CARROLL Families. Several families, two of them by name MACKEY & CARROLL arrived in Victoria, Australia, between 1850 & 1860 from Kildare. Peter & Susan (nee Cleary) MACKEY, natives of Clune, County Kildare, known children born in Clune, Kildare: Ann b.1828 No information on her. Peter b.1829 James b.1831 Mary b.1832 Nicholas b.1935 Matthew 1840 Bridget b.1841 All of the above children came to Victoria Australia except Ann. They married into the families of CARROLL, DOWLING and a few other families from this area. Any information on the CARROLL & MACKEY families in Kildare I would appreciate. Regards, Jill Jackson

When you say Clune could it be Clane? In the Primary Valuation of 1852 there was a Peter Macky (sic) listed in townland of Loughbollard Commons, parish of Clane, also close by in the same parish at Firmount West a Michael Carroll. There is no townland or parish listed with the name Clune in the whole of Ireland in the Townland Index of 1851. Terry Arthur.

Hi Kildare List, My name is Allannah and I am trying to find information on my gr gr grandmother Mary Ann WHELAN (sometimes WHALAN) who was born in Kildare c1823. Her parents were Stephen WHELAND? and Bridget LAUGHLAN. Mary Ann WHELAN came to Sydney Australia in 1839 on board the ship "North Briton/Britain". Mary Ann worked as a nurserymaid for Mrs. P LONG. Mary Ann married Timothy FAHY in 1842 at Liverpool near Sydney. The couple settled near Cooma NSW where they raised their children. Mary Ann died (in childbirth) in 1861, husband Timothy FAHY died in 1865. Do any of these surnames ring any bells please? Timothy FAHY was born in Tipperary c1799 so was quite a bit older than his bride. Thanking you in anticipation Allannah Wooloughan, Australia

Hi, I have Kelly members of our family all from Monasterevin. Two brothers married two of my Mother's sisters'; and a cousin married another Kelly but no relation to her own Kelly family they still live in Monasterevin. James Kelly married Esther Knight 8/7/36. Thomas Kelly married married Anne Knight 14/9/32. If you want to know anything else I am still in touch with some of my cousins and may be able to help you. Please e-mail me at [email protected] Val -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 08 January 2005 12:49 To: [email protected] Subject: [Irl-Kildare] Re: IRL-KILDARE-D Digest V05 #1 Still Looking for family data on Patrick Joseph Kelly, b 13 March 1888, son of Mary Cushing and Simon Kelly, came to USA in 1904-06 on the ship UMBRIA, Place of residence prior to migration Monastrevin, CO. Kildare, Ireland. All data confirmed from PJ's petition for naturalization. Patricia Snyder ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx __________ NOD32 1.966 (20050108) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com

Hi, I imagine you already have this; but just out of curiosity I looked him up and he came over with his brothers; James, Thomas, John & Joseph on the Umbria on 18/19 March 1906. The only reason I looked is because I have a relative that came over from Monasterevan about the same time. However, my relative came on a different ship and different year. I have the image of your Kellys stored and can email it to you in case you don't have it already. Judy Baillargeon Tucson, AZ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 05:49 To: [email protected] Subject: [Irl-Kildare] Re: IRL-KILDARE-D Digest V05 #1 Still Looking for family data on Patrick Joseph Kelly, b 13 March 1888, son of Mary Cushing and Simon Kelly, came to USA in 1904-06 on the ship UMBRIA, Place of residence prior to migration Monastrevin, CO. Kildare, Ireland. All data confirmed from PJ's petition for naturalization. Patricia Snyder ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Still Looking for family data on Patrick Joseph Kelly, b 13 March 1888, son of Mary Cushing and Simon Kelly, came to USA in 1904-06 on the ship UMBRIA, Place of residence prior to migration Monastrevin, CO. Kildare, Ireland. All data confirmed from PJ's petition for naturalization. Patricia Snyder

Hello everyone, I have hit a wall looking for marriage of my grandparents John Kinsella & Annie O'Reilly. I have been to Dublin Registry twice found no trace of records. My father ( now deceased) Thomas Kinsella was born in Naas co. Kildare January 24th 1915, he told me his mother Annie died when he was 10. Hoping someone can help me or is it time to engage professional genealogist. thanking you Mary Stokes Melbourne , Australia

Hi Kevin, I'm home from Ireland 3 weeks. I had such a great time. Six whole glorious months. I love the Irish and their country. Reasearch topics? Bring them on! My records and stuff are packed away at the moment due to moving house soon. Hope to be back on the reaearch trail within two months. Cheers, Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Kerwin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]m> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] PARISH OF CASTLE KILDARE - DELANEY > Hi Dale- > So have you run out of research topics yet? I have some for you if you > have! Hope you're having a great time-I always do when I'm there. > > Cheers, Kevin Kerwin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:26 PM > Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] PARISH OF CASTLE KILDARE - DELANEY > > > >

Hi Dale- So have you run out of research topics yet? I have some for you if you have! Hope you're having a great time-I always do when I'm there. Cheers, Kevin Kerwin ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] PARISH OF CASTLE KILDARE - DELANEY > > Hey Kevin, > Yep, the autumn colours are just appearing down here in Cork and it's a beautiful sight. > By the way, I called in to Fr. Dempsey in Crookstown, Co. Kildare, to see if he could help with information > on my Thomas Dunne (Timolin 1791) He also told me that has released the records to the Heritage Centre. > He suggested I contact Fr. Coughlan in Timolin which I had already done 3 years ago. I wrote to him again > but was told virtually the same thing, that Marriage Records in Moone (Timolin) begin in 1884 which is > much too late for my Thomas. > Spent a glorious few days just driving the back roads of Co. Kildare and soaking up the atmosphere of the > countryside of my ancestors. > Fr. Dempsey was very helpful and during the conversation, I learned he had a brother living just 120km. > from my own place Down Under who he had visited a few times! Small world! > Cheers, > Dale > > Quoting Kevin Kerwin <[email protected]>: > > > Hi Dale- > > It is gorgeous, isn't it? I just got back from Kildare and Wexford last > > night. Must have missed you speeding by on the N78...Don't gain too much > > weight on the Full Irish Breakfasts, Carvery lunches, etc...The Fall colors > > should be peaking next week, too > > > > If you are interested in Athy, the man to see is Frank Taafe. He's a > > solicitor with an office just west of the Crom-A-Boo Bridge off Duke Street. > > > > Kevin Kerwin > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 4:17 PM > > Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] PARISH OF CASTLE KILDARE - DELANEY > > > > > > > > > > Hi Julie, > > > There is a Castledermot town and Parish just a few miles from Kildare > > town. It dates back to the year 600 > > > and something, if I remember rightly. > > > Cheers, > > > Dale > > > From Oz but over here in Ireland for 6 gorgeous months!!! > > > > > > > > > Quoting Julie Robinson <[email protected]>: > > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > > > > > On a WO97 document I have a relative who enlisted "in the parish of > > Castle > > > > in or near the town of Kildare". > > > > This was <1793>. > > > > > > > > Does anybody think they could point me to this "parish of Castle"? > > Could it > > > > simply be Kildare Castle itself and its immediate vicinity - hence the > > name? > > > > I realise that the county is studded with "Castles" of some kind. > > > > > > > > The name was James Delaney b. <1775>. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Julie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

Write them: Parish Office Castledermot Co. Kildare. Ireland Ask them if they can help you. They sent me a birth read-out for my family of Dunnes who were registered in Castledermot in the late 1790's. They asked for a donation only. It's only a very small village and the lady in the office was very nice and helpful. I went in personally when I was over there are couple of years ago, they sent the information to my friend in Cork who, sent it on to me but I'm sure if you included a stamped addressed envelope, plus donation, they will oblige. The Irish are a beautiful people. I've just come back from another gorgeous 6 month stay there. Cheers, Dale in a rather warm, Queensland. Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Donahue surname > Thanks Dale, but I'm in NY and don't know when I'll get to Ireland, soon I hope. > > Best Regards > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Thank you for all the information Dale. I'll give it a try. Ellen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Thanks Dale, but I'm in NY and don't know when I'll get to Ireland, soon I hope. Best Regards __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com