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Hello again, Kevin, I'll write to the Valuation Office to see if they have can help locate a possible address of Thomas Dunne, thanks for the suggestion. No, this cottage ruin was up behind the village itself on a quiet, leafy road. Yes, I believe the church ruin you're talking about, is the one at Killelan, opposite PJ O'Brien's farm. It has a round tower that I managed to find the entrance to, underneath dense undergrowth including nettles!! It was a case of getting down on all fours! The stone stairs were extremely cramped and narrow with just enough room for one person, but I made it to the top. I was rewarded with a fantastic view over the hills of Timolin. More exhilerating stuff! I don't think any of my Dunnes emigrated to America. I also know that the Timolin Dunne's and the Castledermot Dunnes are not related but I've taken a note of your James Dunne just in case. Dale Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Kerwin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > Hi Dale- > Sounds like an interesting find! I was able to locate where my > gg-grandfather's blacksmith shop and house was in Athy (1848) by using the > Ordnance maps developed to go with Griffith's Valuation. Although your > specific ancestor emigrated before Griffith's, maybe another relative > lived > there-or at least using the map of Timolin you could find out who lived > there. There aren't many houses in Timolin, so the listing along with the > map may bring something to light. You should contact the Valuation Office > Ireland, Irish Life Centre, Abbey Street Lower, Dublin 1. The phone is 353 > 1 > 817 1000, fax is 353 1 817 1180. A Mr. Brendan Robbins assisted me. > Is this the wall across from the Sportsmen's Pub you are talking about? > > Don't remember if I told you, but I also noted a James Dunn of > Castledermot > Parish, died April 11, 1866, aged 33 years buried in St. Louis. I have a > photo of the gravestone if he turns out to be a relative. There are a lot > of > Dunns in that areas... > > Did you also visit that little ruined church and cemetery on a corner in > the > country between Timolin and Athy? > > Kevin Kerwin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D.I." <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > > >> Many thanks, Terry, for that information. I'm wondering if your source of >> information is from a wonderful old book that I found at the Cellbridge > (or >> was it Naas?) Library a few years ago. I think it was Lewis' (??) >> Topography of Ireland and was written around 1841. >> >> On my fourth trip back to Ireland last year, I roamed all over the >> Timolin >> countryside, up behind the few houses, church and two pubs that now make > up >> Timolin. I found one very old, stone cottage, in ruins, but definitely >> restorable (I'd LOVE the chance!!) that I WILLED to be the house of my g >> g >> grandfather, Thomas Dunne, who was born in Timolin 1791 and who came to >> Australia sometime before 1841. Discovering and walking through that old >> cottage was a highlight of my trip! I have no way of knowing if it was >> my >> ancestor's cottage but the prospect that it MAY have been was sufficient > for >> me! At least it gave me an idea of what his cottage could have looked > like. >> Exhilarating stuff! The countryside must have many more stone cottages >> hidden by vines and nettles ....at least 27!! >> >> Cheers, >> Dale >> Australia >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 6:06 AM >> Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY >> >> >> > Dale, >> > >> > Timolin was both a town and a parish. >> > >> > Timolin Town: >> > 1841: total population: 172 including 91 males and 81 females. >> > total houses: 28: inhabited 26: uninhabited 2. >> > >> > 1851: total population: 137 including 76 males and 61 females. >> > total houses: 30: inhabited 24: uninhabited 6. >> > >> > Timolin Parish: >> > 1841: total population: 1,611 including 810 males and 801 females. >> > total houses: 270: inhabited 258: uninhabited 12. >> > >> > 1851: total population: 1,265 including 615 males and 650 females. >> > total houses: 249: inhabited 220: uninhabited 29. >> > >> > Terry Arthur, >> > Tyne & Wear, >> > England. >> > >> > >> > ============================== >> > Search the US Census Collection. 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Hello again Terry, How would I know whether they did? I took it for granted that they were referring to a village, but I have no basis for this assumption. They apparently knew each other because they came out in groups of families, the youngsters of these groups married into each other's families. There were approximately five families who intermarried. Three of them into my ancestors, both male and female that I know of. There may have been more families but I have no way to find out. Thank you for this information ,it puts a new look at the times, and sets me researching different avenues. Regards, Jill J Jill, Some of the families may have lived in the civil parish of Clane which consisted of 22 townlands as well as the town of Clane. The figures for the whole parish were as follows: 1841: total population: 2,160 including 1,105 males and 1,055 females. total houses: 378: inhabited 371: uninhabited 6: being built 1. 1851: total population 1,842 including 945 males and 897 females. total houses: 371: inhabited 354: uninhabited 17. Terry Arthur.

Hello Natasha, My Grandparents were from Clane, Kildare; they packed up and came to Victoria, Australia in the 1850's. Several other families who married into my families came out at the same time. I have noted these families in a message to the list a few days ago. I know very little about Clane past and present ,only the information kind listers have told me. Regards, Jill J NSW Australia Hi everyone, I was amazed to see someone looking in Clane, Kildare. My family is from there as well. I would love to share my info on my family from Clane. Maybe we could make a connection. My family are Byrnes, Doran, Christian, Campbell, Bryan, Hanlon, Farrell and Mangan I'm planning on going to Ireland this year. Since Clane is now so small. How will I find it. Apparently we still have relatives living in the family home. At least that is what I've been told but my cousin who went recently passed away before I could ask her the address. Natasha

sorry to railroad your search but couldn't help noticing that you have Dunne family members. I have a Thomas Dunne, Sylvester Dunne, Bridget Dunne & Peter Dunne in my family tree. All these cousins went to my Grandfather's funeral in 1946. the funeral took place Monasterevean and the burial place was Passland I presume a cemetery. If you can help at all it would be much appreciated. Thank you for your time. Val. -----Original Message----- From: D.I. [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 09 February 2005 13:20 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY Hello again, Kevin, I'll write to the Valuation Office to see if they have can help locate a possible address of Thomas Dunne, thanks for the suggestion. No, this cottage ruin was up behind the village itself on a quiet, leafy road. Yes, I believe the church ruin you're talking about, is the one at Killelan, opposite PJ O'Brien's farm. It has a round tower that I managed to find the entrance to, underneath dense undergrowth including nettles!! It was a case of getting down on all fours! The stone stairs were extremely cramped and narrow with just enough room for one person, but I made it to the top. I was rewarded with a fantastic view over the hills of Timolin. More exhilerating stuff! I don't think any of my Dunnes emigrated to America. I also know that the Timolin Dunne's and the Castledermot Dunnes are not related but I've taken a note of your James Dunne just in case. Dale Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Kerwin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > Hi Dale- > Sounds like an interesting find! I was able to locate where my > gg-grandfather's blacksmith shop and house was in Athy (1848) by using the > Ordnance maps developed to go with Griffith's Valuation. Although your > specific ancestor emigrated before Griffith's, maybe another relative > lived > there-or at least using the map of Timolin you could find out who lived > there. There aren't many houses in Timolin, so the listing along with the > map may bring something to light. You should contact the Valuation Office > Ireland, Irish Life Centre, Abbey Street Lower, Dublin 1. The phone is 353 > 1 > 817 1000, fax is 353 1 817 1180. A Mr. Brendan Robbins assisted me. > Is this the wall across from the Sportsmen's Pub you are talking about? > > Don't remember if I told you, but I also noted a James Dunn of > Castledermot > Parish, died April 11, 1866, aged 33 years buried in St. Louis. I have a > photo of the gravestone if he turns out to be a relative. There are a lot > of > Dunns in that areas... > > Did you also visit that little ruined church and cemetery on a corner in > the > country between Timolin and Athy? > > Kevin Kerwin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D.I." <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > > >> Many thanks, Terry, for that information. I'm wondering if your source of >> information is from a wonderful old book that I found at the Cellbridge > (or >> was it Naas?) Library a few years ago. I think it was Lewis' (??) >> Topography of Ireland and was written around 1841. >> >> On my fourth trip back to Ireland last year, I roamed all over the >> Timolin >> countryside, up behind the few houses, church and two pubs that now make > up >> Timolin. I found one very old, stone cottage, in ruins, but definitely >> restorable (I'd LOVE the chance!!) that I WILLED to be the house of my g >> g >> grandfather, Thomas Dunne, who was born in Timolin 1791 and who came to >> Australia sometime before 1841. Discovering and walking through that old >> cottage was a highlight of my trip! I have no way of knowing if it was >> my >> ancestor's cottage but the prospect that it MAY have been was sufficient > for >> me! At least it gave me an idea of what his cottage could have looked > like. >> Exhilarating stuff! The countryside must have many more stone cottages >> hidden by vines and nettles ....at least 27!! >> >> Cheers, >> Dale >> Australia >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 6:06 AM >> Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY >> >> >> > Dale, >> > >> > Timolin was both a town and a parish. >> > >> > Timolin Town: >> > 1841: total population: 172 including 91 males and 81 females. >> > total houses: 28: inhabited 26: uninhabited 2. >> > >> > 1851: total population: 137 including 76 males and 61 females. >> > total houses: 30: inhabited 24: uninhabited 6. >> > >> > Timolin Parish: >> > 1841: total population: 1,611 including 810 males and 801 females. >> > total houses: 270: inhabited 258: uninhabited 12. >> > >> > 1851: total population: 1,265 including 615 males and 650 females. >> > total houses: 249: inhabited 220: uninhabited 29. >> > >> > Terry Arthur, >> > Tyne & Wear, >> > England. >> > >> > >> > ============================== >> > Search the US Census Collection. 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Many thanks, Terry, for that information. I'm wondering if your source of information is from a wonderful old book that I found at the Cellbridge (or was it Naas?) Library a few years ago. I think it was Lewis' (??) Topography of Ireland and was written around 1841. On my fourth trip back to Ireland last year, I roamed all over the Timolin countryside, up behind the few houses, church and two pubs that now make up Timolin. I found one very old, stone cottage, in ruins, but definitely restorable (I'd LOVE the chance!!) that I WILLED to be the house of my g g grandfather, Thomas Dunne, who was born in Timolin 1791 and who came to Australia sometime before 1841. Discovering and walking through that old cottage was a highlight of my trip! I have no way of knowing if it was my ancestor's cottage but the prospect that it MAY have been was sufficient for me! At least it gave me an idea of what his cottage could have looked like. Exhilarating stuff! The countryside must have many more stone cottages hidden by vines and nettles ....at least 27!! Cheers, Dale Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > Dale, > > Timolin was both a town and a parish. > > Timolin Town: > 1841: total population: 172 including 91 males and 81 females. > total houses: 28: inhabited 26: uninhabited 2. > > 1851: total population: 137 including 76 males and 61 females. > total houses: 30: inhabited 24: uninhabited 6. > > Timolin Parish: > 1841: total population: 1,611 including 810 males and 801 females. > total houses: 270: inhabited 258: uninhabited 12. > > 1851: total population: 1,265 including 615 males and 650 females. > total houses: 249: inhabited 220: uninhabited 29. > > Terry Arthur, > Tyne & Wear, > England. > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Natasha, My grandfather has a nephew who lives in Clane. When we went to Ireland in 2001, all I had was a forty year old address to go on. the address is Richardstown, Clane. My son and I drove out from Dublin on a Saturday evening after walking all over Dublin during the day. My husband and daughter-in-law thought we were on a wild goose chase! They would not come. We drove out through Celbridge, where my grandfather was baptized, and finally passed a building on the side of the road with a sign that read "Clane Farm Machinery." That was the only clue that we had entered Clane. We drove a little way to a gas/petrol station with a little mini mart like we have in the "states." I went in and asked the girl behind the counter if she knew the Cribbins family and where they lived. She said she did not, but she called out to a lady picking up a few groceries and asked if she did. Sure enough she did, and she had us follow her after she finished her shopping: back up the road to a house we had passed less that a mile away! It was definitely the house of my grandfather's nephew Francis and his family. We met most of his family right then and there as they were just returning from the "games." Then they called another cousin who insisted that we come over to her house. So one of his sons led the way and we followed to her house. We met many of her children and grandchildren. Another day, from their directions, I found the house of another cousin and his wife who are living on the property where my grandfather Walsh was born in Straffan. Their house is newer, but they gave me an aerial photo of both his house and the one of our ancestor's which was next to it at the time. What a treasure! Then they called a nephew in Dublin who came out the next day to meet us. In all, I actually met nineteen cousins and got tons on genealogical info. In the same shoebox with the old photo of the houses were all of the memorial cards of now deceased relatives with lots of dates and burial information! Marge in Southern California Searching: Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stacpoole, Donovan in Kildare Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut

Hi Dale- Sounds like an interesting find! I was able to locate where my gg-grandfather's blacksmith shop and house was in Athy (1848) by using the Ordnance maps developed to go with Griffith's Valuation. Although your specific ancestor emigrated before Griffith's, maybe another relative lived there-or at least using the map of Timolin you could find out who lived there. There aren't many houses in Timolin, so the listing along with the map may bring something to light. You should contact the Valuation Office Ireland, Irish Life Centre, Abbey Street Lower, Dublin 1. The phone is 353 1 817 1000, fax is 353 1 817 1180. A Mr. Brendan Robbins assisted me. Is this the wall across from the Sportsmen's Pub you are talking about? Don't remember if I told you, but I also noted a James Dunn of Castledermot Parish, died April 11, 1866, aged 33 years buried in St. Louis. I have a photo of the gravestone if he turns out to be a relative. There are a lot of Dunns in that areas... Did you also visit that little ruined church and cemetery on a corner in the country between Timolin and Athy? Kevin Kerwin ----- Original Message ----- From: "D.I." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > Many thanks, Terry, for that information. I'm wondering if your source of > information is from a wonderful old book that I found at the Cellbridge (or > was it Naas?) Library a few years ago. I think it was Lewis' (??) > Topography of Ireland and was written around 1841. > > On my fourth trip back to Ireland last year, I roamed all over the Timolin > countryside, up behind the few houses, church and two pubs that now make up > Timolin. I found one very old, stone cottage, in ruins, but definitely > restorable (I'd LOVE the chance!!) that I WILLED to be the house of my g g > grandfather, Thomas Dunne, who was born in Timolin 1791 and who came to > Australia sometime before 1841. Discovering and walking through that old > cottage was a highlight of my trip! I have no way of knowing if it was my > ancestor's cottage but the prospect that it MAY have been was sufficient for > me! At least it gave me an idea of what his cottage could have looked like. > Exhilarating stuff! The countryside must have many more stone cottages > hidden by vines and nettles ....at least 27!! > > Cheers, > Dale > Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 6:06 AM > Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > > > > Dale, > > > > Timolin was both a town and a parish. > > > > Timolin Town: > > 1841: total population: 172 including 91 males and 81 females. > > total houses: 28: inhabited 26: uninhabited 2. > > > > 1851: total population: 137 including 76 males and 61 females. > > total houses: 30: inhabited 24: uninhabited 6. > > > > Timolin Parish: > > 1841: total population: 1,611 including 810 males and 801 females. > > total houses: 270: inhabited 258: uninhabited 12. > > > > 1851: total population: 1,265 including 615 males and 650 females. > > total houses: 249: inhabited 220: uninhabited 29. > > > > Terry Arthur, > > Tyne & Wear, > > England. > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

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Dale, Timolin was both a town and a parish. Timolin Town: 1841: total population: 172 including 91 males and 81 females. total houses: 28: inhabited 26: uninhabited 2. 1851: total population: 137 including 76 males and 61 females. total houses: 30: inhabited 24: uninhabited 6. Timolin Parish: 1841: total population: 1,611 including 810 males and 801 females. total houses: 270: inhabited 258: uninhabited 12. 1851: total population: 1,265 including 615 males and 650 females. total houses: 249: inhabited 220: uninhabited 29. Terry Arthur, Tyne & Wear, England.

Hello Terry, Would you be able to look up Timolin in Co. Kildare and tell me the population around the 1840's or earlier? I'd appreciate your help. Thank you. Dale Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > Just for the record, the town of Clane had the following populations. > > In 1841: total population 335: 186 males: 149 females. > houses 56: inhabited 51: uninhabited 4: being built 1. > > In 1851: total population 333: 168 males: 165 females. > houses 65: inhabited 57: uninhabited 8. > > Mr Terry Arthur. > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Jill, Some of the families may have lived in the civil parish of Clane which consisted of 22 townlands as well as the town of Clane. The figures for the whole parish were as follows: 1841: total population: 2,160 including 1,105 males and 1,055 females. total houses: 378: inhabited 371: uninhabited 6: being built 1. 1851: total population 1,842 including 945 males and 897 females. total houses: 371: inhabited 354: uninhabited 17. Terry Arthur.

Hi everyone, I was amazed to see someone looking in Clane, Kildare. My family is from there as well. I would love to share my info on my family from Clane. Maybe we could make a connection. My family are Byrnes, Doran, Christian, Campbell, Bryan, Hanlon, Farrell and Mangan I'm planning on going to Ireland this year. Since Clane is now so small. How will I find it. Apparently we still have relatives living in the family home. At least that is what I've been told but my cousin who went recently passed away before I could ask her the address. Natasha

Good morning Terry, Thank you for the below, I now have another snippet of information on my families. I could make a guess and say that by the late 1850's there would be at least 6 more houses uninhabited, as that is the total of the Irish families married to various members of my Carroll; Cleary; Dowling; Fennell; Mackey; O'Brian Families. All of the above are recorded on marriage certificates as coming from Clane, Ireland. As I noted before in my earlier email, whole families of the above arrived in Victoria Australia between 1850 and 1859. These comprised Mother Father and their many children. The children seem to come first and the parents follow the next year or so. These are only some of the people from Clane who are my ancestors. Clearly, Fennell, Mackey and Carroll's are my primary 4XGreat grand parents. The poor village did not have much hope of recovery if whole families left. It would have taken a while for it to start to grow again. Thank you kind listers once again for your help. Regards, Jill Jackson Sydney Australia Just for the record, the town of Clane had the following populations. In 1841: total population 335: 186 males: 149 females. houses 56: inhabited 51: uninhabited 4: being built 1. In 1851: total population 333: 168 males: 165 females. houses 65: inhabited 57: uninhabited 8. Mr Terry Arthur.

Just for the record, the town of Clane had the following populations. In 1841: total population 335: 186 males: 149 females. houses 56: inhabited 51: uninhabited 4: being built 1. In 1851: total population 333: 168 males: 165 females. houses 65: inhabited 57: uninhabited 8. Mr Terry Arthur.

Janine, Do you know if she had any siblings? Natasha

Thank you to those kind Listers who answered my request as to the were-a-bouts of the village/town of Clane. I now know that my ancestors were not to far out in identifying their hometown and that it existed. 3000 is hardly a City I agree, it probably lost most of its families immigrating to Australia :) Regards, Jill J Sydney Australia << In the early 1800, would Clane have been a village or a small town? I know it is classed as a City now. >> Jill, Clane was classified as a town in the Townlands Listings of the mid-1800's, so it was probably in the same category a few decades earlier when the Irish population was even greater. As for Clane being a City....... only in the residents' dreams <gr>. Clane doesn't even make it onto the list of towns and cities in Ireland (2002) with populations over 3000. There are only 5 or 6 cities in the Republic (depending on how you feel about Kilkenny and their charter). Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Can anyone help me locate the parents of Catherine Byrne born Kildare Town 1820, first names may be john and Mary. Any help appreciated. Thanks Janine South Australia

What does the 'bounce' say was the reason for the mail being returned? Ian Thirlwell ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:30 AM Subject: [Irl-Kildare] New Subscriber re Returned Mail > > > Hello Everyone > > My friend Pauline Stanley has asked me to send the following > posting, which > she tells me has already been posted 4 times. > Pauline has asked me to say that on each occasion her mail was > bounced back. > > If this arrives safe and secure could someone please explain why > this might > have happened. > > (I have subscribed to the site in order to see if I faired any > better) > > Regards > Thank You > Audrey M > > Below is Paulines copied email. > _________________________________________________ > > Hi I am new to this list and would like to tell you my interests. > > Great Grand Father Samuel Brown - born Clane & Timahoe North > Kildare > Married Bridget Coghlan in approx 1863 > > > They had the following Children > > Ann born 1860 > Julia 1863 > William 1863 > Thomas 1864 > Catherine 1868 > Mary 1871 at Widnes in England > Martha 1876 > > I would like to find the parents of both Samuel and Bridget and > what their > lives were like in the period 1868 when Catherine was born in > Ireland and > their move to England > > I have much information on this family after they arrived in Widnes > but > would love details of their lives in Ireland > > If this makes any connection with any one this would be just great > > Pauline Stanley -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.4 - Release Date: 01/02/2005