Barb at [email protected] writes: << Would anyone know the correct spelling o f this town? Clogharintra/Clogherantea, County Kildare >> Barb, I almost gave up on this one, after searching Kildare and all of its adjacent counties. As a final search, I looked for all of the townlands in the province of Leinster, starting with Clogher. There are 6 listings, nothing close. I didn't expect anything from a similar search using Cloghar............ but I was wrong. A single listing. There is a townland (and village, with a church) of Clogharinka in Co. Kilkenny (someone may have abbreviated the Co. name as "Kil", and someone assumed it stood for Kildare ? Or, the "k" in Kilk. looked like the "d" in Kild.). Anyway, this looks promising. Clogharinka is in Muckalee civil parish, about 3 miles SSE of Castlecomer. I hope that will not mess-up things too much <gr>. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Hi Barb, I went to the IreAtlas Townland Data Base site (www.leitrim-roscommon.com/ireatlas) and typed in Clogh and Search Anywhere option. I couldn't see anything resembling the spellings in Kildare but you might like to spend more time in there searching the various options. There's a heap of names starting with "Clogh"!! Hope this helps. Dale QLD ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 8:35 PM Subject: [Irl-Kildare] Correct spelling of town? > Would anyone know the correct spelling o f this town? > Clogharintra/Clogherantea, County Kildare > > Many Thanks , > Barb > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Greetings Would any one be researching these surnames in Kildare? Elizabeth MORAN married Samuel COATES in Maynooth on November 2, 1813. Elizabeth was the daughter of Charles and Ellen Moran. Her death certificate suggests that she was at least 95 when she died in NYC in 1885. Samuel Coates appears to be the son of John Coates and Ismenia NOWLAN of Celbridge. The men of the Coates family were stonemasons for several generations. Would very much like to track down any Morans, Coates, and Nowlans with ties to Kildare. Thanks very much. Best of good luck in your research adventures. Pat Wood in Fircrest, WA **** All outgoing mail scanned by Norton Anti-virus ****

Would anyone know the correct spelling o f this town? Clogharintra/Clogherantea, County Kildare Many Thanks , Barb

I am interested in any information relating to a Gurry family from Rathangan. My maternal grandfather was an early 20th century immigrant from Rathangan. Thanks. Dennis Manning [email protected]

anyone interested.?. .come to the reunion and share the research.. all of you are invited... josi ----------------------------------- GEOGHEGAN Reunion,Ireland. Venues: Dublin, Galway and Athlone 27th June - 3rd July, 2005 ------------------------------------

Hello listers, Seeing as we are celebrating St Patricks's Day today I realise how little I know about my Irish ggrandparents. Timothy BYRNES married Frances (Fanny) KENNEY in Australia in 1875. From their marriage certificate and subsequent birth certificates for their children I have the following information. Timothy was born c1850 in Great Connell, Newbridge, Kildare. Frances was born c1850 in Byrne or Newbridge, Kings. Timothy's parents were: John BYRNES a stonemason Mary WALSH Frances' parents were: William KENNEY a farmer Eliza CULLEN If anyone recognises these names or can point me in the right direction as to parish, bmd or census records I would be very grateful. Lee In Australia [email protected]

Anyone out there researching this name ? Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching : Cork - FITZGIBBON, LEAHY, TARRANT, OAKSHOTT, VAUGHAN Dublin - CULLODEN, HAYDEN Martha, HAYES, HIGGINSON, HUGHES Patrick & Henry, MOFFETT Kildare - CULLODEN, HALL Cambridge - SHICKEL-any spelling Somerset & Dorset - GRUBB, READ/REID, WHITTLE Suffolk - ATKINS, BOWLER, BROWN Robert, DAVIE/EY, PARR, SKINNER, SLATELY Stafford - WINTERTON, Webb WILLIAMS Wales - BALLARD, HOOPER, HOWELL, SANDS, YORATH -----Original Message----- From: Valerie Garton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, 12 February 2005 6:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: CULLODEN's Anyone out there researching this surname ? Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching : Cork - FITZGIBBON, LEAHY, TARRANT, OAKSHOTT, VAUGHAN Dublin - CULLODEN, HAYDEN Martha, HAYES, HIGGINSON, HUGHES Patrick & Henry, MOFFETT Cambridge - SHICKEL-any spelling Somerset & Dorset - GRUBB, READ/REID, WHITTLE Suffolk - ATKINS, BOWLER, BROWN Robert, DAVIE/EY, PARR, SKINNER, SLATELY Stafford - WINTERTON, Webb WILLIAMS Wales - BALLARD, HOOPER, HOWELL, SANDS, YORATH

Anyone out there researching this surname ? Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching : Cork - FITZGIBBON, LEAHY, TARRANT, OAKSHOTT, VAUGHAN Dublin - CULLODEN, HAYDEN Martha, HAYES, HIGGINSON, HUGHES Patrick & Henry, MOFFETT Cambridge - SHICKEL-any spelling Somerset & Dorset - GRUBB, READ/REID, WHITTLE Suffolk - ATKINS, BOWLER, BROWN Robert, DAVIE/EY, PARR, SKINNER, SLATELY Stafford - WINTERTON, Webb WILLIAMS Wales - BALLARD, HOOPER, HOWELL, SANDS, YORATH

You're welcome, Jill. I've found the site a great help. Cheers, Dale Whitsundays ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Jackson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: RE: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > Hi Dale, > This site is excellent, thank you, I will have a lovely time looking at > it and 'place' my Mackey's and Carroll's there. I have now printed the > History of Clane, and other documents dealing with this area thanks to > you. > They will go in as a lead items of my Irish files. > You are very kind > Regards, > Jill in Sydney > > > Jill in Sydney. > > Just came across this reference to Clane. > Go to www.kildare.ie > Click on Site Map > Scroll down to Lewis's Topographical Dictionary 1837 (RHS under > Heritage) > Clane is mentioned among the towns > > Dale > Whitsundays > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jill Jackson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:08 AM > Subject: RE: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > > >> Good morning Terry, >> >> Thank you for the below, I now have another snippet of information on > my >> families. I could make a guess and say that by the late 1850's there >> would be at least 6 more houses uninhabited, as that is the total of > the >> Irish families married to various members of my Carroll; Cleary; >> Dowling; Fennell; Mackey; O'Brian Families. >> All of the above are recorded on marriage certificates as coming from >> Clane, Ireland. >> >> As I noted before in my earlier email, whole families of the above >> arrived in Victoria Australia between 1850 and 1859. These comprised >> Mother Father and their many children. The children seem to come first >> and the parents follow the next year or so. These are only some of the >> people from Clane who are my ancestors. Clearly, Fennell, Mackey and >> Carroll's are my primary 4XGreat grand parents. >> >> The poor village did not have much hope of recovery if whole families >> left. It would have taken a while for it to start to grow again. >> >> Thank you kind listers once again for your help. >> >> Regards, >> Jill Jackson >> Sydney >> Australia >> >> >> >> Just for the record, the town of Clane had the following populations. >> >> In 1841: total population 335: 186 males: 149 females. >> houses 56: inhabited 51: uninhabited 4: being built 1. >> >> In 1851: total population 333: 168 males: 165 females. >> houses 65: inhabited 57: uninhabited 8. >> >> Mr Terry Arthur. >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 > 9&targetid=5429 > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Hi Dale, This site is excellent, thank you, I will have a lovely time looking at it and 'place' my Mackey's and Carroll's there. I have now printed the History of Clane, and other documents dealing with this area thanks to you. They will go in as a lead items of my Irish files. You are very kind Regards, Jill in Sydney Jill in Sydney. Just came across this reference to Clane. Go to www.kildare.ie Click on Site Map Scroll down to Lewis's Topographical Dictionary 1837 (RHS under Heritage) Clane is mentioned among the towns Dale Whitsundays ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Jackson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:08 AM Subject: RE: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > Good morning Terry, > > Thank you for the below, I now have another snippet of information on my > families. I could make a guess and say that by the late 1850's there > would be at least 6 more houses uninhabited, as that is the total of the > Irish families married to various members of my Carroll; Cleary; > Dowling; Fennell; Mackey; O'Brian Families. > All of the above are recorded on marriage certificates as coming from > Clane, Ireland. > > As I noted before in my earlier email, whole families of the above > arrived in Victoria Australia between 1850 and 1859. These comprised > Mother Father and their many children. The children seem to come first > and the parents follow the next year or so. These are only some of the > people from Clane who are my ancestors. Clearly, Fennell, Mackey and > Carroll's are my primary 4XGreat grand parents. > > The poor village did not have much hope of recovery if whole families > left. It would have taken a while for it to start to grow again. > > Thank you kind listers once again for your help. > > Regards, > Jill Jackson > Sydney > Australia > > > > Just for the record, the town of Clane had the following populations. > > In 1841: total population 335: 186 males: 149 females. > houses 56: inhabited 51: uninhabited 4: being built 1. > > In 1851: total population 333: 168 males: 165 females. > houses 65: inhabited 57: uninhabited 8. > > Mr Terry Arthur. > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 9&targetid=5429

Jill in Sydney. Just came across this reference to Clane. Go to www.kildare.ie Click on Site Map Scroll down to Lewis's Topographical Dictionary 1837 (RHS under Heritage) Clane is mentioned among the towns Dale Whitsundays ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Jackson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:08 AM Subject: RE: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > Good morning Terry, > > Thank you for the below, I now have another snippet of information on my > families. I could make a guess and say that by the late 1850's there > would be at least 6 more houses uninhabited, as that is the total of the > Irish families married to various members of my Carroll; Cleary; > Dowling; Fennell; Mackey; O'Brian Families. > All of the above are recorded on marriage certificates as coming from > Clane, Ireland. > > As I noted before in my earlier email, whole families of the above > arrived in Victoria Australia between 1850 and 1859. These comprised > Mother Father and their many children. The children seem to come first > and the parents follow the next year or so. These are only some of the > people from Clane who are my ancestors. Clearly, Fennell, Mackey and > Carroll's are my primary 4XGreat grand parents. > > The poor village did not have much hope of recovery if whole families > left. It would have taken a while for it to start to grow again. > > Thank you kind listers once again for your help. > > Regards, > Jill Jackson > Sydney > Australia > > > > Just for the record, the town of Clane had the following populations. > > In 1841: total population 335: 186 males: 149 females. > houses 56: inhabited 51: uninhabited 4: being built 1. > > In 1851: total population 333: 168 males: 165 females. > houses 65: inhabited 57: uninhabited 8. > > Mr Terry Arthur. > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Go to www.kildare.ie Type in Kilmurray in the "search" bar. There is only one reference to the town in the first line that appears. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 8:02 AM Subject: [Irl-Kildare] Re: IRL-KILDARE-D Digest V05 #12 > Can anyone tell me any info on Kilmurray, Clane, Kildare? > > That is where most of my Byrne family were born. > > Thanks, Natasha > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

I am following the discussion about Clane. My family said they came from County Clare. However, the Intention to Declare for Citizenship says they come from County Kildare. I often wondered if Clare got into family lore because it was more common but the family was really from Clane in Kildare. James O'Brian, born abt. 1793 married Mary abt. 1812. Their son James, born abt. 1813 married Rose O'Leary (Lary), born abt. 1803. They had three sons, James (1833), Joseph (1837) and Michael (1839) in Ireland before emigrating to New York State in 1851. Sadly, James and Michael died in the Civil War. Brian O'Leary, father of Rose, was born abt. 1783 and married Catherine, also born abt. 1783 Any connections Thanks Lois Friss Granada Hills, CA

Here is my Byrne family. I would love to find out the parents of Michael and James Byrne and if they had other siblings as well as who the rest married and where they went. Natasha Descendants of ??? Byrne 1 ??? Byrne ......... 2 Michael Byrne 1836 - b: Abt. 1836 in Ireland ............. +Anne Elizabeth Campbell 1838 - b: Abt. 1838 in Ireland .................... 3 Mary Anne Byrne 1861 - b: Abt. September 01, 1861 in Mount Armstrong, Clane, County Kildare, Ireland .................... 3 Maurice Byrne 1864 - b: January 15, 1864 in Kilcock, 0423, County Kildare, Ireland ........................ +Elizabeth Bryan .................... 3 Margaret Byrne 1867 - b: Abt. November 17, 1867 in Kilmurray, Clane, County Kildare, Ireland .................... 3 Elizabeth Byrne 1870 - b: Abt. July 10, 1870 in Kilmurray, Clane, County Kildare, Ireland .................... 3 Maryanne Bridget Byrne 1873 - 1937 b: January 12, 1873 in Kilmurray, Clane, County Kildare, Ireland d: February 01, 1937 in Plainfield, Union County, New Jersey ........................ +John Joseph Corrigan 1870 - b: Abt. 1870 .................... 3 John Byrne 1877 - b: January 19, 1877 in Kilmurray, Clane, County Kildare, Ireland ......... 2 James Byrne

Natasha at [email protected] writes: << Can anyone tell me any info on Kilmurray, Clane, Kildare? >> Natasha, I can give you a bit of info on the geography of the townland. Kilmurry townland consists of 426 acres of land, lying between 2 and 3 miles NW of Clane town. There is a minor road passing through this townland and continuing to the SE into Clane itself. Nearly all of the buildings in Kilmurry are stretched-out along this road - more than 50 of them. On a nearby side-road, still within the townland in its eastern section, is a dense cluster of another 7 or 8 buildings - probably a farm complex. The land is relatively level - only varying about 50 feet across the townland. It's well-watered and undoubtedly fertile land, as the Donadea Demesne and its delightful Forest Park is just to the north of Kilmurry. Can't think of anything else to say about it. Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Hi Natasha, Unfortunately I know nothing at all about her family. I can't even be sure that John and Mary are her parents names. She had them listed on her death certificate as John Kennedy and Mary McDonald. However they may be somewhat fictitious. Catherine Byrne married a William Reed in 1841 in NSW. After her 5th Child when the law came in to register children her in Australia, her maiden name suddenly changes to "Sarah Kennedy" We think it's because she didn't want the stigma of her convict name going on record. Hence when she dies, the lie she created continues. She may have simply changed her father's name from Byrne to Kennedy to fit the new identity, but for all I know all names may be entirely fictitious. Are you able to send me all the Catherine Byrne children born in 1820 in the town of Kildare with parents names. Perhaps I can trace them through her own children's names. Would that be a big ask? Your guidance sought. Thank you. Janine.

Can anyone tell me any info on Kilmurray, Clane, Kildare? That is where most of my Byrne family were born. Thanks, Natasha

That should read, PJ O'Neill not PJ O'Brien's farm!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "D.I." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:19 PM Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY > Hello again, Kevin, > > I'll write to the Valuation Office to see if they have can help locate a > possible address of Thomas Dunne, thanks for the suggestion. No, this > cottage ruin was up behind the village itself on a quiet, leafy road. > > Yes, I believe the church ruin you're talking about, is the one at > Killelan, opposite PJ O'Brien's farm. It has a round tower that I managed > to find the entrance to, underneath dense undergrowth including nettles!! > It was a case of getting down on all fours! The stone stairs were > extremely cramped and narrow with just enough room for one person, but I > made it to the top. I was rewarded with a fantastic view over the hills of > Timolin. More exhilerating stuff! > > I don't think any of my Dunnes emigrated to America. I also know that the > Timolin Dunne's and the Castledermot Dunnes are not related but I've taken > a note of your James Dunne just in case. > > Dale > Australia > >

Hi Val, That's okay. :) I know of nothing of any relatives left behind when my Thomas Dunne left Ireland, prior to 1841.........sorry. I do know though, that there are Dunnes still living in Timolin and Castledermot, which is only a couple of miles away. Both places not far from Monastereven. The present undertaker in Castledermot is a Dunne. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val Earnshaw" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:29 AM Subject: RE: [Irl-Kildare] Re: Kildare CARROLL & MACKEY & DUNNE HELP > sorry to railroad your search but couldn't help noticing that you have > Dunne > family members. > > I have a Thomas Dunne, Sylvester Dunne, Bridget Dunne & Peter Dunne in my > family tree. All these cousins went to my Grandfather's funeral in 1946. > the > funeral took place Monasterevean and the burial place was Passland I > presume > a cemetery. > > > If you can help at all it would be much appreciated. > > Thank you for your time. Val. > >