Sending this again!!! Some of my replies don't reach this IRL-KILDARE board lately. ----- Original Message ----- From: "D.I." <[email protected]> To: "Valerie Garton" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 5:04 PM Subject: Re: Shipping arrival - look at SAG - Thomas Dunn/e from Timolin Co Kildare > You're a pal, thanks Val. > > Dale from a wet Whitsundays > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Valerie Garton" <[email protected]> > To: "D.I." <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:38 AM > Subject: RE: Shipping arrival - look at SAG - Thomas Dunn/e from Timolin > Co Kildare > > >> OK. Shall have a look on my next visit. >> >> Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney. >> >>

Sending this again as i don't think the original post arrived........... ----- Original Message ----- From: "D.I." <[email protected]> To: "Valerie Garton" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Thomas Dunn/e from Timolin Co Kildare > Hi Valerie, > > Thanks so much for your kind offer. I really appreciate it. I've struck a > real brickwall with this fellow of mine! > > Information: > > Name: Thomas Dunne. It changed to Dunn in Australia. Born 1791 Timolin, > Co. Kildare. > Parents: Murtagh and Helena/Eleanor (Keogh) Dunne. Had three siblings. (I > have their details) > Died 1855, aged 64, in Moonee Ponds, Victoria. His death certificate says > he was in Victoria for 14 years. This brings his arrival to around 1841. > He left behind a wife, Hannah Price and four children. > I have found a few Thomas Dunn/s's mentioned on some ships lists around > 1840/41, but these have been too young. (Thomas would have been around > fifty years old) I'm assuming he came came straight to Port Phillip but, > as has been suggested, he may have come into NSW first or even VDL. > He purchased several acres in the vicinity of what is now, Tullamarine > Airport, so I figure he had some money in his pocket when he landed. > > I'll eagerly await your findings! :) > > Dale > Cloudy Whitsundays > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Valerie Garton" <[email protected]> > To: "D.I." <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 9:19 AM > Subject: RE: [Irl-Kildare] Thomas Dunn/e from Timolin Co Kildare > > >>I can have a look at the shipping records that we hold at The Society >> of Australian Genealogists if you like to give me the details. >>

Shirley, I bought this book at Dymocks booksellers. ($44.95) It's published by University of New South Wales Press. (There's a web site mentioned in the forward...www.unswpress.com.au) I have a Helena/Eleanor Keogh who was the mother of my gg grandfather but haven't found any other records pertaining to her. Cheers, Dale > Hello Dale, Could you tell me where to get this book - would it be in a > library or for sale. May grandparent were John Shannon, County Cavan and > Catherine Keogh born in County Kildare but come to Sydney from County > Wicklow. There were so many of the Keoghs' and Shannons' settled in > Aust. > and it is hard to know who is who. > > Thank you, Shirley > > -----Original Message----- > From: D.I. [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 3:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Irl-Kildare] The Irish in Australia > > I'm reading Patrick O Farrell's book, "The Irish in Australia...1788 to > the > Present" > > If

Hello Dale, Could you tell me where to get this book - would it be in a library or for sale. May grandparent were John Shannon, County Cavan and Catherine Keogh born in County Kildare but come to Sydney from County Wicklow. There were so many of the Keoghs' and Shannons' settled in Aust. and it is hard to know who is who. Thank you, Shirley -----Original Message----- From: D.I. [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 3:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Irl-Kildare] The Irish in Australia I'm reading Patrick O Farrell's book, "The Irish in Australia...1788 to the Present" If anyone wants a good glimpse into what it was like to be Irish in Australia back in the 1800's (and before) then I thoroughly recommend this as a good read; especially chapter four, Immigrants. There are accounts of everyday living, names included, as well as the problems our Irish ancestors had to face in an English-run invironment. I'm finding it totally absorbing. Dale ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

I thought this was interesting, from the book The Irish in Australia..... *Nearly half a million Irish lived in England in 1841. They emigrated from there and were counted as English. *The ship, the Glenswilly in 1841, sailing from London and Plymouth, with 310 emigrants returned as English were actually Irish, having been brought across to join the ship in Plymouth. These two instances mean that maybe our Irish are hiding, involuntary so, under the guise of English!

I'm reading Patrick O Farrell's book, "The Irish in Australia...1788 to the Present" If anyone wants a good glimpse into what it was like to be Irish in Australia back in the 1800's (and before) then I thoroughly recommend this as a good read; especially chapter four, Immigrants. There are accounts of everyday living, names included, as well as the problems our Irish ancestors had to face in an English-run invironment. I'm finding it totally absorbing. Dale

Thank you Jill, I think I searched the NSW records but at the time, there wasn't an UNASSISTED list online. Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Jackson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [Irl-Kildare] Thomas Dunn/e from Timolin Co Kildare > Hello Dale, > > I think you may find that quite a few Passenger Ships came to Port > Jackson in the early 1800's. Some of them had port of call as Cork and > or Ireland. ...............etc >

Hello Dale, I think you may find that quite a few Passenger Ships came to Port Jackson in the early 1800's. Some of them had port of call as Cork and or Ireland. Most of my family were from Ireland in the 1850's. They mainly came from the south of Ireland. They went to Victoria, so I was able to trace their entry to Australia. The Vic records are very good. Ships records for Victoria started in 1852. I think that most ships from overseas, around 1840, came to Port Jackson. Convict transport did not cease in PJ until about 1842. Until it started again sometime in the 1850/60's. They were called Exiles and were sent to Western Australia to serve out their time. There was a chronic lack of Labour in WA and this was one method to get workers. Regards, Jill J Top o' the mornin' to you all, Has anyone come across a list of UNASSISTED passengers online, Ireland to Australia, in the early to mid 1800's. Still seeking my GG grandfather, Thomas Dunne, who arrived from Ireland somehow (!!) in Melbourne around the 1840's Dale On a rather cool morning in the Whitsundays....brrrr. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Top o' the mornin' to you all, Has anyone come across a list of UNASSISTED passengers online, Ireland to Australia, in the early to mid 1800's. Still seeking my GG grandfather, Thomas Dunne, who arrived from Ireland somehow (!!) in Melbourne around the 1840's Dale On a rather cool morning in the Whitsundays....brrrr.

These are the names I am searching; the family lived in Carbury, County Kildare c1834. If anyone has any interest in the above names or variants I would be very pleased to hear from them. Many thanks in anticipation. Hilda in Leeds, Yorkshire.

Hi everyone, I am just starting to research my family tree, I think this is a good place to begin, hopefully some of this information will be familiar to anyone on this mailing list. DARCY I only have info going as far back as my great grandparents: Patrick Darcy born c. 1863 and Elizabeth Darcy nee Byrne born c. 1873, both were born in Farneese, Wicklow but I believe they ended up in Kildare. They had at least three children, Patrick, Malochy and Michael. Michael Darcy (my grandfather) (born c. 1905 died 1947) lived in Kildare he married Mary Theresa HAYDEN (born c.1910, died 1983) at one point or another they lived in Carbury, Kildare and Dunshoughlin Co. Meath and had six children; Michael, Patrick, Elizabeth (aka Daisy), Moira, Jeremiah and John Darcy (all alive today w/ exception of Patrick Darcy). Two of these children immigrated to Toronto, Canada in the 1960's; Jeremiah Darcy (my father) and Moira Darcy. HAYDEN Again I can only go back to my great grandparents: Jeremiah HAYDEN married Mary Ann Hayden nee Fitzpatrick. They had seven children; Mary Christina (my grandmother, the only girl), George, Jim, Patrick, Joseph, Larry and Jerry. All of these Haydens were farmers in and around the area of Maganey, Co. Kildare (close to Carlow town and Athy) they are all dead now, Uncle Joe being the last one who died in 1997. For either side I am interested in finding out any information prior to 1900 (beyond that of my great-grandparents) on both the Darcy and Hayden sides. I'm 99% sure none of them ever immigrated to the US or Canada so they would all have lived in various parts of Kildare and surrounding counties (I'm trying and find out where). If anyone has any information on either side I would certainly appreciate any info you may have. Thanks for your time :) Michelle Darcy (in Toronto, Canada)

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To All of you that I promised a lookup to: I have finally done the lookups while in Dublin. If I have not emailed you personally, then I did not find your families. Anything that I did find, I have or am sending personally. Marge in Southern California Searching: Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stacpoole, Donovan in Kildare Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut

Are you conneted to Denis Hayes Crofton ? Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching : Cork - FITZGIBBON, LEAHY, TARRANT, OAKSHOTT, VAUGHAN Dublin - CULLODEN, HAYDEN Martha, HAYES, HIGGINSON, HUGHES Patrick & Henry, MOFFETT Kildare - CULLODEN, HALL Cambridge - SHICKEL-any spelling Somerset & Dorset - GRUBB, READ/REID, WHITTLE Suffolk - ATKINS, BOWLER, BROWN Robert, DAVIE/EY, PARR, SKINNER, SLATELY Stafford - WINTERTON, Webb WILLIAMS Wales - BALLARD, HOOPER, HOWELL, SANDS, YORATH > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennette Gest [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, 15 June 2005 8:22 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Tombstone Inscriptions: Ladychapel and > Taghadoe Cemeteries, Maynooth, Co Kildare > > > Hi > Would the name CROFTON be there please. > Jennette Gest nee Byrne > QLD AUS > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:07 PM > Subject: [Irl-Kildare] Tombstone Inscriptions: Ladychapel > and Taghadoe > Cemeteries, Maynooth, Co Kildare > > > > I have just been given a small booklet of tombstone > inscriptions for the > > above cemeteries. I will do lookups this coming weekend. > There are only a > few > > names in Taghadoe: Cavanagh, Gorman, Kelly, Long, > McGuyer, McGuire, > Nugent, > > O'Hara, Scully, Toner and Walsh. There are many names for > Ladychapel. > > > > Marge in Southern California > > > > Searching: > > Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut > > Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut > > Walsh, Stacpoole, Donovan in Kildare > > Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records > added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. > Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for > your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with > family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?s ourceid=14599&targetid=5429 ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

> > Are you connected to David Hayes Crofton ? > > > > Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney. > > > > Hi my ggrandmother Winifred CROFTON born 1851 Sallins (C) > 20 Sep 1851 at > Kill parents Patrick CROFTON & Catherine DOYLE. Can you tell me which Country we are talking about please ? > > Winifred (M) Joseph POWER at the church in Kill on the 4 Aug 1874. > They daughter Agnes Erin POWER 26 Jan 1887 in Dublin. > > I don't know any more on the CROFTON side yet. > I know Winifred had a brothers Lawrence 1843, Miles/Myles > 1846, William > 1849. > > When was this Denis Hayes CROFTON born? I don't know but he published two books - one in 1980 and the other in 1990. > > Jennette Gest nee Byrne > QLD AUS > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records > added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

None of those names show up.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Garton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:44 PM Subject: RE: [Irl-Kildare] Tombstone Inscriptions: Ladychapel and Taghadoe Cemeteries, Maynooth, Co Kildare > Are you conneted to David Hayes Crofton ? > > Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney. > Hi my ggrandmother Winifred CROFTON born 1851 Sallins (C) 20 Sep 1851 at Kill parents Patrick CROFTON & Catherine DOYLE. Winifred (M) Joseph POWER at the church in Kill on the 4 Aug 1874. They daughter Agnes Erin POWER 26 Jan 1887 in Dublin. I don't know any more on the CROFTON side yet. I know Winifred had a brothers Lawrence 1843, Miles/Myles 1846, William 1849. When was this David Hayes CROFTON born? Jennette Gest nee Byrne QLD AUS [email protected]

Thanks Barb, Yes but all the records spell it Mackey, however, on some documents filled out by the authorities it changes. My Mackey and Carroll families said they could read and write. Regards, Jill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] FYI,,,Mackey may be McKay, McKenna, McKinney.... Barb [email protected] writes:

Are you conneted to David Hayes Crofton ? Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney. Researching : Cork - FITZGIBBON, LEAHY, TARRANT, OAKSHOTT, VAUGHAN Dublin - CULLODEN, HAYDEN Martha, HAYES, HIGGINSON, HUGHES Patrick & Henry, MOFFETT Kildare - CULLODEN, HALL Cambridge - SHICKEL-any spelling Somerset & Dorset - GRUBB, READ/REID, WHITTLE Suffolk - ATKINS, BOWLER, BROWN Robert, DAVIE/EY, PARR, SKINNER, SLATELY Stafford - WINTERTON, Webb WILLIAMS Wales - BALLARD, HOOPER, HOWELL, SANDS, YORATH > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennette Gest [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, 15 June 2005 8:22 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Irl-Kildare] Tombstone Inscriptions: Ladychapel and > Taghadoe Cemeteries, Maynooth, Co Kildare > > > Hi > Would the name CROFTON be there please. > Jennette Gest nee Byrne > QLD AUS > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:07 PM > Subject: [Irl-Kildare] Tombstone Inscriptions: Ladychapel > and Taghadoe > Cemeteries, Maynooth, Co Kildare > > > > I have just been given a small booklet of tombstone > inscriptions for the > > above cemeteries. I will do lookups this coming weekend. > There are only a > few > > names in Taghadoe: Cavanagh, Gorman, Kelly, Long, > McGuyer, McGuire, > Nugent, > > O'Hara, Scully, Toner and Walsh. There are many names for > Ladychapel. > > > > Marge in Southern California > > > > Searching: > > Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut > > Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut > > Walsh, Stacpoole, Donovan in Kildare > > Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, O'Connor in Kerry and Connecticut > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records > added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. > Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for > your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with > family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?s ourceid=14599&targetid=5429