This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VWC.2ACI/980.19.2 Message Board Post: Sorry, no listings.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VWC.2ACI/980.18.1 Message Board Post: There is not a mention of Thomas Cleary, but there are two mentions of Father Prendergast: "In early June 1798 almost the whole of Kildare town was destroyed following and attempt to destroy 'his majesties's troops, the inhabitants almost to a man having left the place'. In Monesterevan in the aftermath of the breakdown of rebellion in the baronies of West and East Offaly, Lord Tyrawley busied himself examining (judging) rebels. On 11 June he arrested Fr Edward Predergast who was tried by Court Martial and subsequently executed. Tyrawley wrote to Cooke in Dublin: "The execution of this man has had a good effect. It was clearly proved that he was at one of the rebel camps encouraging the people with a pistol in his hand and that he gave them absolution tho' they confessed to him that they were United Irishmen..." The death of Prendergast is the best documented case of clerical involvement diring the Kildare rebellion. " ...no 'white terror' gripped Kildare in late July-August. This is largely explained by the fact that such a reaction already occurred during June in the areas of the county where open rebellion quickly dissipated. This is illustrated in the execution of Fr Edward Prendergast at Monesterevan or Col. Campbell's destructive pacification of south Kildare." The sources these came from are: Irish Ecclesiastical Record, 5th series, vol. lxvi (1945), Duff, Monesterevan, to Hewitt, June 8, 1798 (Rebel Papers 620/38/88), and Tyrawley to Cooke, June 13,1798 (Rebel Papers 620/56/192), Musgrave, Rebellions, pp 249-250 all available from the National Archives of Ireland. National Archives of Ireland

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Monaghan, Taylor. Brahe Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VWC.2ACI/1097.1.2 Message Board Post: Patrick b 1833 at Newtown, Kildare. He was a policeman in Dublin for three years prior to migrating. (he kept the same profession in Victoria retiring after 13 years) m at a churc ear the quay Dublin 28/6/1857 to Ann Josephine Taylor. They migrated to Melbourne Aust befire their son John James was born in the Melbourne lying in hospital 20/9/1858 . John b 1830 died u/m 1915 Daylesford Vic Aust. I have no records from Dublin to verify these details. Anne H

At 12:01 10/11/2005, you wrote: >I recently learned that my great grandfather was baptized in the >Catholic Church in Balyna Parish. I would appreciate it if someone >would let me know the name and mailing address for the Catholic >Church there, as well as the name of the Pastor. > >Thanks, >Robby There is no parish called 'Balyna' in Co Kildare or elsewhere in Ireland. It is very likely that there should but more letters after Balyna... Regards Anthony

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Grace, Powell, Casey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VWC.2ACI/980.21.1.1 Message Board Post: Kevin: you're right, I AM lucky. Thanks much for getting and retaining those Grace marriage records!! We were at St. Michael's RC Church in Athy a few years ago and got the Grace baptisms, but forgot (it was our first foray in looking for ancestors) to ask for marriages. Thanks to you we now know their marriage dates!! Our direct-line Graces were Michael Grace/Catherine Powell (Michael was born in Goulyduff (Churchtown Parish), and their son Peter who married Mary Casey. Peter/Mary lived in Nicholastown (Tankardstown, Kildare) before Peter and three oldest boys entered the US (via the SS CIty of Baltimore)at Castle Garden in March 1860. [We haven't found when Mary and the others came over, but we know it was before 1870--they all settled in New Brtiain CT.] In Griffin's 1852 valuation in Tankardstown, I don't see your Kirwan's listed. Ed Daniel Rockville, MD

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VWC.2ACI/980.21.1 Message Board Post: There are no Grace family members listed in the book, but (boy, are you lucky!) I was researching some Grace family members from Athy that I though might have come over with my family members, because one of them (Patrick) was a witness at the baptism of my gg-Uncle Michael on 12/1/1839 and there is another one in a suspect immigration record to New York.** Here are the St. Michael's Parish records on the Grace family: Marriages: 1/12/1701 Ann Grace to James McNamara, no locations 4/1/1845 Anne Grace to William Carty, no locations 2/11/1850 Edmund Grace of Duke Street (Athy) the Anne McCann of Duke Street 1/1/1788 Frances Grace of Tankardstown to John Grace of Tankardstown (cousins?) 11/24/1795 Margaret Grace to Thomas Kearan, no locations* 3/5/1832 Margaret Grace to John Manders, no locations 1/24/1823 Mary Grace to Edmond Brookes, no locations 2/22/1756 Mary Grace of Athy to Patrick Hall of Athy 2/21/1792 Mary Grace to Bryan Kilbride, no locations 10/29/1789 Mary Grace to Michael Neal, no locations 2/22/1805 Michael Grace to Catherine Powel, no locations 9/22/1884 Nicholas Grace of Sheean to Sarah Kehoe of Ballyroe 7/23/1839 Peter Grace to Mary Casey, no locations 1/1/1882 Thomas Grace of Chathan, England to Anne Doyle of Athy * indicated one that might be a misspelling of Keerwan or Kierwan since there was a Thomas who was a landlord later in Griffith's Valuation ** Grace family members below came on the Cynosure with a Michael Kerwin, age 19 from Liverpool to New York, arriving 9/7/1857: Thomas Grace age 22 Labourer Lawrence Grace age 29 Labourer Mary Grace age 40 wife Catharine Grace age 9 Bridger Grace age 7 My Michael would have been 17 at the time, so this might be a connection. As for Ryan, there are several mentions of a Thomas Ryan in the book. He was a squire and an officer of the Kilcock jail, and was involved in transferring prisoners Lawrence O'Connor and Michael Griffin from Kilcock to Naas. They were ambushed by United Irishmen in July, 1795. He voted against proclaiming martial law in Kildare on May 8, 1797, on the side of the Duke of Leinster and is mentioned as having voted against the Crown in the summer 1797 assizes (criminal court hearings) in Athy. Please keep me posted on your Grace research. I am working a theory that they might have been friends or neighbors of my family in Athy in the 1825-1860's period. All of the sons in my great-grandfather's generation (born in the period 1826-1835) immigrated eventually to St. Louis; and were all blacksmiths except for one. Cheers, Kevin Kerwin

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VWC.2ACI/980.21 Message Board Post: Thanks for the offer to look up. Are there any Grace family members listed? They would have lived in townland of Goulyduff, parish of Churchtown (near Athy) in Co. Kildare. Also any Ryan's mentioned from Thomastown, Co. Kilkenney??

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Vesey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VWC.2ACI/136.251.1 Message Board Post: Thanks to Jean Rice for her 1999 message re landowners in Co. Kildare in late 1870's. John T. Vesey, # 23 in that list, was the land owner of the plot of land our gr-gr-gr-father Peter Grace lived on at the time of the 1852 Giffith's Valuation. What was the source of that list; it included Vesey's address (your info has verified that he was an absentee owner) and I would like to find more info about Mr. Vesey.

Robby at [email protected] writes: << I recently learned that my great grandfather was baptized in the Catholic Church in Balyna Parish. I would appreciate it if someone would let me know the name and mailing address for the Catholic Church there, as well as the name of the Pastor. >> Robby, There are three RC churches in Balyna parish. You probably want the main church at Broadford. The contact information for the Parochial House as well as all three of the churches (no Pastor name, though - but a telephone number), can be found at: >> http://www.catholicireland.net/parishes/parishdetails.php?ID=940 <<. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Wendy, famous Anglo/Irish cousins, Somerville and Ross, (Edith and Violet) were prominent writers in the late 1800's/early1900's. "The Irish RM" (resident magistrate) being made into a TV series by the ABC. Edith was a painter too. They lived in Castletownshend. Co.Cork. Drishane House is still there and open to the public. Not a great lead, I know, but there MAY be a link to your Elizabeth if you delve into Edith's background which, btw, makes fascinating reading. Dale QLD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robt & Wendy Stevenson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:53 AM Subject: Somerville/Summerville >I am looking for info re William and Elizabeth Somerville, who lived at >Ardrass, Co Kildare, had a son William in 1772, maybe daughters. >Somerville was quite a prominent name in the county, also Meath and Dublin >and Fermanagh. Any links are appreciated. Thanks. > Wendy > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VWC.2ACI/1099 Message Board Post: I recently learned that my great grandfather was baptized in the Catholic Church in Balyna Parish. I would appreciate it if someone would let me know the name and mailing address for the Catholic Church there, as well as the name of the Pastor. Thanks, Robby

Dale, Thanks for the info., I have read some of Edith's works....however, this is NOT our Branch. They came to Ireland a little later. William Somerville was a minister, our James was a gentleman, and there was apparently a soldier - so legend has it about the 3 Somervilles! I do have our direct descent, but am trying to fill in the side lines. Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: "D.I." <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: Re: Somerville/Summerville > Wendy, famous Anglo/Irish cousins, Somerville and Ross, (Edith and Violet) > were prominent writers in the late 1800's/early1900's. "The Irish RM" > (resident magistrate) being made into a TV series by the ABC. Edith was a > painter too. They lived in Castletownshend. Co.Cork. Drishane House is > still there and open to the public. Not a great lead, I know, but there > MAY be a link to your Elizabeth if you delve into Edith's background > which, btw, makes fascinating reading. > Dale > QLD > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robt & Wendy Stevenson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 6:53 AM > Subject: Somerville/Summerville > > >>I am looking for info re William and Elizabeth Somerville, who lived at >>Ardrass, Co Kildare, had a son William in 1772, maybe daughters. >>Somerville was quite a prominent name in the county, also Meath and Dublin >>and Fermanagh. Any links are appreciated. Thanks. >> Wendy >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Monaghan, Brahe at Newtown Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VWC.2ACI/1097.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Dear Ellis O'Hara, Thank you for the details re rresearch of my Monaghan's. I will try to find any further information regarding my Monaghan's but wuld think this is now an impossibilty., taking the time difference. I will ask the Kildare Heritage and Genealogy Company and ask them for their fees Anne Holloway.

I am looking for info re William and Elizabeth Somerville, who lived at Ardrass, Co Kildare, had a son William in 1772, maybe daughters. Somerville was quite a prominent name in the county, also Meath and Dublin and Fermanagh. Any links are appreciated. Thanks. Wendy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VWC.2ACI/1097.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello Anne, The only source for centralised RC records in Kildare is through the Kildare Heritage and Genealogy Company where research is fee-based. Here's the link: http://kildare.ie/library/KildareHeritage/ Otherwise, you'd need to identify more specifically which of the 15 Newtowns in Kildare is the location where Patrick was born to identify what church records are available for that location. Many have been microfilmed and are available at the National Library of Ireland in Dublin. There are no census records for the 1800s and civil registration didn't start in Ireland until 1864 (Protestant marriages in 1845) so church registers for the specific location of birth are the primary source for family information. Other than the Kildare Heritage Company, there is no other centralised source to lookup information in church registers. Regards. Eilís O'Hara

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Brahe, Monaghan, Taylor. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VWC.2ACI/1097.1.1 Message Board Post: They were both Catholics, Patrick was born in "Newtown, Kildare" in 1833. according to his police records (in Victoria. Aust) he was married at the Church of the Immaculate Heart of Mary in Dublin. to Ann Josephine Taylor in 28th June 1857. He was a policeman in Dublin for 3 years prior to migrating. He migrated to Australia during the next year - 1858. His first son was born in Vic. 20th Sept 1858 at the Lying in Hospital Melbourne. registered as William but later called John James as his next son was named William. They eventually had 10 children.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VWC.2ACI/1098 Message Board Post: I am trying to find information about Annie Stanley b. about1870 Fathers name given as william on marriage certificate in 1892. has anybody come across Stanleys in co Kildare area in mid 19th century? would be grateful for help thanks mary jones

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VWC.2ACI/1097.1 Message Board Post: Hello Anne, There are fifteen "Newtowns" in County Kildare in different locations not to mention Newtown Great, Newtown Little, Newtownallen, etc. What are the dates for your ggrandfather and his brother? Religious denomination? Any references in your ggrandfather's civil and church records wherever he emigrated to a church in Kildare or a civil parish? Regards. Eilís O'Hara

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Monaghan, Brahe at Newtown Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VWC.2ACI/1097 Message Board Post: I have not been able to find a map showing Newtown in Kildare, (Ireland). Can anyone point me in the right direction please? It is where my great grandfather Patrick Monaghan was born. Also his brother Joseph. I'm still to find any further siblings. Their parents were John Monaghan and Catherine Brahe. Can any one help me ? Thank you Anne Holloway

Townland AKA Acres County Barony Civil Parish PLU Province Maynooth 483 Kildare North Salt Laraghbryan Celbridge Leinster ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Heasley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 6:05 AM Subject: Parish for Maynooth?? > Hi All; > > Could some kind soul tell me -in what parish is 'Maynooth' located?? > > My great great grandfather, Thomas Anthony ,claimed to have been born in > Maynooth. > > Thank You all > > J heasley > [email protected] > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >