Hi Deb, From _www.answers.com_ (http://www.answers.com) re passports _Home_ (http://www.answers.com/) > _Library_ (http://www.answers.com/main/what_content.jsp) > _History, Politics & Society_ (http://www.answers.com/main/government.jsp) > _US History Encyclopedia_ (http://www.answers.com/library/US+History+Encyclopedia-cid-59820) Passports issued to United States citizens provide proof of identity abroad and request, in the name of the secretary of state, that the holder be permitted to travel "without delay or _hindrance_ (http://www.answers.com/topic/hindrance) " and, if necessary, be given "all lawful aid and protection." The earliest surviving passport issued by U.S. diplomatic officials dates to 1788. Until 1856, officials such as governors and mayors, as well as the U.S. Department of State, issued passports. After 1856, however, issuance was confined to the Department of State. Except for the Civil War period, passports were not required of foreign travelers to the United States until 1918. The requirement was made permanent in 1921. Under the Internal Security Act of 1950, passports could not be issued to members of communist organizations or to those whose activities abroad would violate the laws of the United States. The provision debarring U.S. communists from obtaining passports was revoked in 1964. Formerly, issuance was deemed to be at the absolute discretion of the Department of State, but in 1958 the Supreme Court recognized that the "right to travel" constituted a liberty of which a law-abiding citizen could not be deprived. As the twenty-first century began, plans were _afoot_ (http://www.answers.com/topic/afoot) to replace passports with a system whereby software would translate the pattern of a person's iris into a passport number

I am not sure whether this has been previously posted and I have missed it - but if not members of the list may be interested to know that the 1901 Irish census is now available for free search as well as the 1911 census. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ Michael Loughlin

Thanks, Jack for the tips. I went to clusty.com and I am guessing it is changing its name to Yippy? But the clusty link worked. I played around with your search terms and added "passport" and "history" and am retrieving some very useful information. I've never known if our ancestors needed passports,( particularly, for me, in the first half of the 1800's). Which brings me to the next thought, which is--if they did, are there records of these passports (I assume in British archives)? Deb Deborah Large Fox Help! The Faerie Folk Hid My Ancestors! http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.com This week: Records Reliability: Did Grandma Lie?

In a message dated 6/11/2010 8:16:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, michael.loughlin1@ntlworld.com writes: I am not sure whether this has been previously posted and I have missed it - but if not members of the list may be interested to know that the 1901 Irish census is now available for free search as well as the 1911 census. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search Michael, Thank you. Now if only the BRS would release the Laois records. Jack Langton

Hi Deb, I used the cluster type search engine _http://clusty.com_ (http://clusty.com) and used the advanced search option with a boolean search putting assisted emigration AND kilkenny AND Wandesforde in the Query box There was a fairly good return, some the same-old same-old but others I hadn't seen before on Google searches, or perhaps they were buried in Google's endless hits. Might be worth a shot. Jack Langton

This question is a bit off the topic of Castlecomer, but I get the BEST information from the members on this list. I am researching the history of emigration requirements--what documentation was needed for our ancestors to get out of the country (besides money) -such as passports, papers, permissions, etc. Anyone know of a good source for that topic in Ireland? I do have some sources for England generally but not Ireland specifically. For example, did our Castlecomer ancestors simply leave the Wandesforde estate and" jump" on a ship? Did they need permission Or papers from Wandesforde? From the government? Thanks for any sources, Deb Deborah Large Fox Help! The Faerie Folk Hid My Ancestors! http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.com Topic this week: Would Grandma Lie?

OF ALL THE BARS. Rehearsals are in full swing for OF ALL THE BARS the latest show by Banana Moon Productions. This time around the actors are hoping to raise awareness and funds for Black Lung, a disease that affected miners throughout Ireland. The play is a lighthearted nod to the iconic figures of the Rat Pack era. Cast included Michael Dowd, Ann Moylan, Neville Thompson, Chubby Brennan, Michael Brennan, Colm Meagher, Mark Rothwell, Barry Byrne, Michelle Burke, Mary Clarke. _www.ofallthebars.blogspot.com/_ (http://www.ofallthebars.blogspot.com/) Date of this item added : 2010-05-25

MR. J. KELLY In keeping with his final wishes the ashes of the late John Kelly formerly of The Square were interred in his native Parish Cemetery after Requiem Mass celebrated in the Church of the Immaculate Conception by Fr. Tom Corcoran C.C. Castlecomer. Born and reared in the town he attended the Boys National School and also Kilkenny CBS. After his formal education he moved initially to England before settling down in Zimbabwe where he spent many happy years. He is survived by his sons John, Kieran, Brendan brothers Edward, Kieran, Martin, Austin, Gerry, Jimmy other relatives and a wide circle of friends. Date of this item added : 2010-05-25

QUINN , John (14 Barrack Street, Castlecomer, Co. Kilkenny) May 24, 2010, (peacefully), at St. Luke's Hospital, Kilkenny, dearly beloved husband of Treasa, loving father of Paul, Jane, Joseph, Kevin, Ann and Louise; deeply regretted by his loving wife, daughters, sons, sister Olive, brothers Joseph and Anthony, sisters-in-law Kitty and Moira, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, sons-in-law, daughters-in-law, relatives and friends. R.I.P. Removal tomorrow (Thursday) from his residence at 7 o'c. to the Church of the Immaculate Conception, Castlecomer. Requiem Mass on Friday at 11 o'c. followed by Burial in the adjoining cemetery. Publish Date: 26th May 2010 Published in: Irish Independent

I am visiting the Castlecomer area next weekend for several weeks. I am seeking contact with any local person with any knowledge of the Scarf/Scharf/Scariff family of Baunreagh and Ridge, Old Leighlin parish, Co. Carlow who are known to have resided in Moneenroe, Donaguile, Castlecomer and Coolcullen before 1820 when they emigrated to the Ottawa Valley, Canada. I particularly wish to access any birth, death, marriage records which may still be viewed in Castlecomer. Any names, addresses or phone contacts would be appreciated. Thank you... Darryl Scarff Australia

Hi Elaine, It doesn't seem that long since i've been sending in the death notices. The Irish Independent does have a death log, don't know how far back, it's at http://announcements.independent.ie /deaths Dennis Walsh has a good site at _www.irelandoldnews.com/obits_ (http://www.irelandoldnews.com/obits) The Castlecomer obits I sent in would be in our Castlecomer list archives, but I can't say exactly when, i'm afraid. _http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-KIL-CASTLECOMER.html_ (http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/IRL/IRL-KIL-CASTLECOMER.html) Jack Langton

LACY (Loon, Castlecomer, Co. Kilkenny) May 5, 2010, at St. Luke's Hospital, Kilkenny, William (Billy) (proprietor of Lacy's Bar); deeply regretted by his loving wife Carmel, sons John, Edward and Justin, daughters Siobhan and Niamh, brother George, sisters Catherine, Anne and Margaret, son-in-law, daughter-in-law, grandchildren, brother-in-law, nieces, nephews, god-mother Cathy, cousin, relatives and friends. R.I.P. Funeral Prayers at 7 o'c. this (Friday) evening at Moran's Funeral Home, Castlecomer followed by Removal to the Church of the Immaculate Conception, Castlecomer. Requiem Mass tomorrow (Saturday) at 11 o'c. Interment afterwards in the adjoining cemetery. House private. Publish Date: 7th May 2010 Published in: Irish Independent

Hi Deb TRy taking a screen picture with your digital and then blow it up JIm >----Original Message---- >From: deborahlargefox@verizon.net >Date: 06/05/2010 15:00 >To: <irl-kil-castlecomer@rootsweb.com> >Subj: [IRL-KIL-CASTLECOMER] Schuylkill Co. PA maps (Castlecomer emigrants) > >Penn State University has a copy of the 1875 atlas for Schuylkill Co. PA online: >http://collection1.libraries.psu.edu/cdm4/document.php? CISOROOT=/digitalbks2&CISOPTR=54290&REC=1 >Although this is a a volume of maps for Schuylkill Co. Pennsylvania, it might prove useful to others on this list because so many Castlecomer area emigrants settled in this county and are on the maps. I have a copy of this atlas at home, and it has really helped me in my research, as it has my Castlecomer people on the Tuscarora map. The one problem I am having is with enlarging the image. I get it enlarged just so much, then it stops. I was hoping since the maps were online, I could enlarge them bigger and read them better than I can with the actual book. Deb >DEBORAH LARGE FOX >Read my blog for Irish research tips: "Help! The Faerie Folk Hid My Ancestors!" >http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.com > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KIL- CASTLECOMER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

>From _HTTP://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper_ (http://trove.nl a.gov.au/newspaper) _ (Keyword: Castlecomer)_ (http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper) Hobart Town Courier, Friday, 22 February 1839, page 4 English extracts: A YOUNG GENTLEMAN SHOT BY A GAMEKEEPER We are informed that a fine young gentleman, Mr. O'Reilly, son to Dr. O'Reilly, formerly of Carlow, was shot on Wednesday, near Castlecomer, by the gamekeeper of the Hon. C.B. Wandesforde. According to the report, Mr. O'Reilly, who carried a fowling piece, had fired at a crow on a tree, when the gamekeeper came up to demand the gun, which Mr. O'Reilly refused to give him, whereupon the gamekeeper instantly shot him dead. The gamekeeper has been apprehended, and committed to Kilkenny jail. (LEINSTER INDEPENDENT)

Penn State University has a copy of the 1875 atlas for Schuylkill Co. PA online: http://collection1.libraries.psu.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/digitalbks2&CISOPTR=54290&REC=1 Although this is a a volume of maps for Schuylkill Co. Pennsylvania, it might prove useful to others on this list because so many Castlecomer area emigrants settled in this county and are on the maps. I have a copy of this atlas at home, and it has really helped me in my research, as it has my Castlecomer people on the Tuscarora map. The one problem I am having is with enlarging the image. I get it enlarged just so much, then it stops. I was hoping since the maps were online, I could enlarge them bigger and read them better than I can with the actual book. Deb DEBORAH LARGE FOX Read my blog for Irish research tips: "Help! The Faerie Folk Hid My Ancestors!" http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.com

In a message dated 4/21/2010 12:30:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, flatbrad@tiscali.co.uk writes: Another periodic query about my ancestors listed below. They had relatives or friends named Brennan, Whelan, Phelan, Brophy.. We have letters of Catherine (number x1 (11) mentioning them. Do any of these names mean anything to you? Hi David, As list moderator Jim Bradley has already said, the above surnames are all prominent in Castlecomer history. Can you give us a little more direction as to the type of information needed, since you do seem to have quite a bit of info already. Have you posted your search to any other mailing lists/news letters? Have you searched the Castlecomer list archives, i'm sure you'd come up with numerous references to these names. Jack Langton

Hi David These names are relevant to the Castlecomer area. The Phelans and the bBropheys been the easiest to research there been less of them identifiable if you were trying to Identifi more relatives. When the Brenans have a nickname it can make quite a differrance. There were some Brophys and Brennans transtported in 1834. Refresh our memorys Dave what line are you researching >----Original Message---- >From: dwmiles@qldnet.com.au >Date: 18/04/2010 13:06 >To: <meenaghman@yahoo.com> >Cc: <irl-kil-castlecomer@rootsweb.com>, <4B7042AF.6040605@yahoo.com> >Subj: [IRL-KIL-CASTLECOMER] (no subject) > >Hi Tom and Listers > >Another periodic query about my ancestors listed below. They had relatives or friends named Brennan, Whelan, Phelan, Brophy.. We have letters of Catherine (number x1 (11) mentioning them. Do any of these names mean anything to you? > >Regards > >David Miles >Gold Coast >Australia >Descendants of John Butler > > >? > >Generation No. 1 > > >1. JOHN1 BUTLER He married MARY LAWLESS 11 January 1857. > > >Children of JOHN BUTLER and MARY LAWLESS are: > >i. MICHAEL2 BUTLER, b. 6 November 1858. > >2. ii. MARGARET MARY BUTLER, b. 20 April 1860, Kilkenny, Ireland; d. 11 August 1922, South Brisbane (Dutton Park) Cemetery. Buried 12/8/1922.. > >iii. JOHANNA BUTLER, b. 8 August 1861. > >iv. DENIS BUTLER, b. 25 February 1865; d. 2 March 1932. > >v. BRIDGET BUTLER, b. 28 January 1866. > >vi. TOBIAS BUTLER, b. 15 August 1867. > >vii. ???? BUTLER, b. 31 July 1868, Presumed died at birth - recorded in Castlecomer Civil Registration of Birth. > >viii. JAMES BUTLER, b. 11 August 1869; d. 27 February 1924. > >ix. THOMAS BUTLER, b. 17 February 1871. > >x. MARY BUTLER, b. 14 September 1872. > >3. xi. CATHERINE BUTLER, b. 13 February 1875. > >xii. ELIZABETH BUTLER, b. 1 January 1876. > >xiii. JOHN BUTLER, b. 11 January 1878. > >? > >Generation No. 2 > > >2. MARGARET MARY2 BUTLER (JOHN1) was born 20 April 1860 in Kilkenny, Ireland, and died 11 August 1922 in South Brisbane (Dutton Park) Cemetery. Buried 12/8/1922.. She married HANS PETER HANSEN 20 September 1881 in Brisbane, son of PETER HANSEN and ANNA MADSEN. He was born 1854 in Langeland, Denmark, and died 9 June 1930 in South Brisbane Cemetery, buried 10/6/1930 next to Margaret.. > > >Children of MARGARET BUTLER and HANS HANSEN are: > >4. i. PETER HENDERSON3 HANSEN, b. 1881; d. 29 November 1960, Burial date South Brisbane. > >5. ii. FLORENCE MARY HANSEN, b. 16 April 1883. > >6. iii. ANNA CHRISTINA HANSEN, b. 19 May 1885; d. 1938. > >iv. JOHN FREDERICK HANSEN, b. 31 October 1887; m. ADELE MCDOWELL. > >v. CHARLES CHRISTIAN HANSEN, b. 11 February 1890. > >7. vi. BERTHA MATILDA HANSEN, b. 1 July 1893. > >vii. CHARLES HAROLD HANSEN, b. 2 May 1896; m. ADELINE ?. > >8. viii. ROYSTON ROBERT HANSEN, b. 9 April 1900, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia; d. 18 September 1987, D/n No. T50 Section Mt Thompson Crematorium, Nursery Rd., Holland Park, Brisbane. > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 2 >Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:58:23 +0000 >From: Tom White <meenaghman@yahoo.com> >Subject: [IRL-KIL-CASTLECOMER] Lookup in 1901 census >To: irl-kil-castlecomer@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <4B7042AF.6040605@yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > >I think someone on the list has the indexed version of the 1901 census >in Castlecomer book. >I was hoping to get a lookup on the following family >most likely living in Moneenroe > >Laurence Brennan c.1840 age approx 61 in 1901 [Brennan Rush] >Ellen Brennan (wife) c.1845 age approx 56 in 1901 [Originally Ellen Neill] >Marcella Brennan (mary) b 1875 age approx 26 in 1901 >William Brennan b 1877 age approx 24 in 1901 >Michael Brennan b 1879 age approx 22 in 1901 >Elizabeth Brennan b 1883 age approx 18 in 1901 > >There may be other children after Elizabeth that I haven't found in the >records. >Any help greatly appreciated >Tom. > > > >------------------------------ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KIL- CASTLECOMER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I was wondering if any (probably USA) list members might be attending the National (US) Genealogy Society conference in Salt Lake next week? I would love to meet any that might be there. I will be attending the Irish classes that will be given, except perhaps any that are given at 8 in the morning, I cannot guarantee my showing up at any event whatsoever before late morning LOL I will be going out to SLC a few days early to research in the library. There is a fairly recent photo of me on my blog, so either let me know before this weekend if you will be there or spot me in the classes. Deb DEBORAH LARGE FOX Read my blog for Irish research tips: "Help! The Faerie Folk Hid My Ancestors!" http://irishfamilyresearch.blogspot.com

Hi Tom and Listers Another periodic query about my ancestors listed below. They had relatives or friends named Brennan, Whelan, Phelan, Brophy.. We have letters of Catherine (number x1 (11) mentioning them. Do any of these names mean anything to you? Regards David Miles Gold Coast Australia Descendants of John Butler ? Generation No. 1 1. JOHN1 BUTLER He married MARY LAWLESS 11 January 1857. Children of JOHN BUTLER and MARY LAWLESS are: i. MICHAEL2 BUTLER, b. 6 November 1858. 2. ii. MARGARET MARY BUTLER, b. 20 April 1860, Kilkenny, Ireland; d. 11 August 1922, South Brisbane (Dutton Park) Cemetery. Buried 12/8/1922.. iii. JOHANNA BUTLER, b. 8 August 1861. iv. DENIS BUTLER, b. 25 February 1865; d. 2 March 1932. v. BRIDGET BUTLER, b. 28 January 1866. vi. TOBIAS BUTLER, b. 15 August 1867. vii. ???? BUTLER, b. 31 July 1868, Presumed died at birth - recorded in Castlecomer Civil Registration of Birth. viii. JAMES BUTLER, b. 11 August 1869; d. 27 February 1924. ix. THOMAS BUTLER, b. 17 February 1871. x. MARY BUTLER, b. 14 September 1872. 3. xi. CATHERINE BUTLER, b. 13 February 1875. xii. ELIZABETH BUTLER, b. 1 January 1876. xiii. JOHN BUTLER, b. 11 January 1878. ? Generation No. 2 2. MARGARET MARY2 BUTLER (JOHN1) was born 20 April 1860 in Kilkenny, Ireland, and died 11 August 1922 in South Brisbane (Dutton Park) Cemetery. Buried 12/8/1922.. She married HANS PETER HANSEN 20 September 1881 in Brisbane, son of PETER HANSEN and ANNA MADSEN. He was born 1854 in Langeland, Denmark, and died 9 June 1930 in South Brisbane Cemetery, buried 10/6/1930 next to Margaret.. Children of MARGARET BUTLER and HANS HANSEN are: 4. i. PETER HENDERSON3 HANSEN, b. 1881; d. 29 November 1960, Burial date South Brisbane. 5. ii. FLORENCE MARY HANSEN, b. 16 April 1883. 6. iii. ANNA CHRISTINA HANSEN, b. 19 May 1885; d. 1938. iv. JOHN FREDERICK HANSEN, b. 31 October 1887; m. ADELE MCDOWELL. v. CHARLES CHRISTIAN HANSEN, b. 11 February 1890. 7. vi. BERTHA MATILDA HANSEN, b. 1 July 1893. vii. CHARLES HAROLD HANSEN, b. 2 May 1896; m. ADELINE ?. 8. viii. ROYSTON ROBERT HANSEN, b. 9 April 1900, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia; d. 18 September 1987, D/n No. T50 Section Mt Thompson Crematorium, Nursery Rd., Holland Park, Brisbane. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:58:23 +0000 From: Tom White <meenaghman@yahoo.com> Subject: [IRL-KIL-CASTLECOMER] Lookup in 1901 census To: irl-kil-castlecomer@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4B7042AF.6040605@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I think someone on the list has the indexed version of the 1901 census in Castlecomer book. I was hoping to get a lookup on the following family most likely living in Moneenroe Laurence Brennan c.1840 age approx 61 in 1901 [Brennan Rush] Ellen Brennan (wife) c.1845 age approx 56 in 1901 [Originally Ellen Neill] Marcella Brennan (mary) b 1875 age approx 26 in 1901 William Brennan b 1877 age approx 24 in 1901 Michael Brennan b 1879 age approx 22 in 1901 Elizabeth Brennan b 1883 age approx 18 in 1901 There may be other children after Elizabeth that I haven't found in the records. Any help greatly appreciated Tom. ------------------------------

HAHN (Donaguile, Castlecomer, Co. Kilkenny) April 10, 2010, (peacefully), at St. Luke's Hospital, Kilkenny, Rosie, partner of the late Klaus Berg; sadly missed by her three sons, extended family and her good circle of local friends. Deeply grateful to the staff of St. Luke's Hospital for caring for Rosie. Reposing at Coady's Funeral Home, Castlecomer. Funeral Service at Coady's Funeral Home tomorrow (Tuesday) at 2 o'c. followed by Burial in the Crosshill Cemetery. Publish Date: 12th April