Our O'Leary Clan Family Historian, Peter Thomas O'Leary, passed away last Friday, August 9, 2013, in Ballingeary, (Iveleary/Inchigeelagh) County Cork at age 87. Condolences may be sent to joecreedon@gmail.com (Creedon's Hotel, Inchigeelagh, Co. Cork) Joe will fwd to Peter's family. Peter will be missed at this September's O'Leary Clan Reunion in Inchigeelagh, where he was committee chairman for organizing the reunions for many years since the initial 1996 clan reunion, until turning over his responsibilities because of failing health & age. Please remember Peter & his family in your thoughts and prayers. Don O'Leary - Related to Peter via the Bhui O'Leary Clan DNA -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-request <irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com> To: irl-kerry <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Aug 12, 2013 3:01 am Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 119 Today's Topics: 1. Knowing " where they were all from " (Mary Simpson) 2. Re: Knowing " where they were all from " (Genie Flahie) 3. Re: Knowing " where they were all from " (Ray Marshall) Attached Message From: Mary Simpson <marymcs@talktalk.net> To: ray.marshall@gmail.com Cc: irl-cork@rootsweb.com <irl-cork@rootsweb.com>; irl-kerry@rootsweb.com <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Knowing " where they were all from " Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 23:39:43 +0100 Hello Ray, despite always knowing where our great grandmama Catherine Callaghan, ( whose father was Jerry Callaghan ) came from in Cork - down to the actual fields - I STILL cannot find her baptismal record , which should be Ballinhassig about 1840 ….. and we have the names of brothers & sisters, nephews & nieces etc. so perhaps it's all academic, and those who don't know what part of Ireland their family came from can adopt whatever place they most fancy! It would be a lot less hassle. At least the US, Australian and New Zealand listers have the possible option of searching ship's registers and port documents, something that British listers can only envy, as their families came with no paper trail to search at all. Mary Attached Message From: Genie Flahie <genief@verizon.net> To: Mary Simpson <marymcs@talktalk.net>; ray.marshall@gmail.com Cc: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Knowing " where they were all from " Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 18:56:22 -0400 Mary, that's a wonderful idea! I am the third generation of Flahies looking for our ancestor Michael in Ireland. I hereby pick Dingle, Kerry as his birthplace, because that's a likely place for the surname. Thanks for the idea. Genie Flahie -----Original Message----- From: Mary Simpson Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 6:39 PM To: ray.marshall@gmail.com Cc: irl-cork@rootsweb.com ; irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Knowing " where they were all from " Hello Ray, despite always knowing where our great grandmama Catherine Callaghan, ( whose father was Jerry Callaghan ) came from in Cork - down to the actual fields - I STILL cannot find her baptismal record , which should be Ballinhassig about 1840 ….. and we have the names of brothers & sisters, nephews & nieces etc. so perhaps it's all academic, and those who don't know what part of Ireland their family came from can adopt whatever place they most fancy! It would be a lot less hassle. At least the US, Australian and New Zealand listers have the possible option of searching ship's registers and port documents, something that British listers can only envy, as their families came with no paper trail to search at all. Mary _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Attached Message From: Ray Marshall <ray.marshall@gmail.com> To: 'Mary Simpson' <marymcs@talktalk.net> Cc: irl-cork@rootsweb.com; irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Knowing " where they were all from " Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 18:22:22 -0500 (CDT) Actually, Mary, I once asked a professional genealogist how it is that if someone is elected President of the US and claims to have Irish ancestry, within three months there will be an article posted that gives the exact location of the family in Ireland. Without fail. The professional genealogists said, that they get as close as they can and just "assume." It's great PR for Ireland and for family history. With respect to baptismal records, I believe that baptisms often weren't performed in the Church. The parish priest would go circuit riding every so often and carry the baptismal register in his pocket, especially during the times when it was illegal for Catholics to keep records, in theory, before 1829 or so. He would stop off at every home in the parish and baptize all the new arrivals. I suppose sometimes the books got lost or burned. And when you do find a baptismal record, often the writing is so small and cramped, in Latin of course, that it is almost impossible to read. I haven't found any baptisms of my people in Ireland at all. Ray Marshall Bright and Sunny today in Minneapolis. But not too humind. -----Original Message----- From: Mary Simpson [mailto:marymcs@talktalk.net] Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 5:40 PM To: ray.marshall@gmail.com Cc: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com; irl-cork@rootsweb.com Subject: Knowing " where they were all from " Hello Ray, despite always knowing where our great grandmama Catherine Callaghan, ( whose father was Jerry Callaghan ) came from in Cork - down to the actual fields - I STILL cannot find her baptismal record , which should be Ballinhassig about 1840 ... and we have the names of brothers & sisters, nephews & nieces etc. so perhaps it's all academic, and those who don't know what part of Ireland their family came from can adopt whatever place they most fancy! It would be a lot less hassle. At least the US, Australian and New Zealand listers have the possible option of searching ship's registers and port documents, something that British listers can only envy, as their families came with no paper trail to search at all. 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