Maurice or Morice or Mace??? John Le Garignon Gatineau (Québec) Canada -----Message d'origine----- From: Meg Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 5:59 PM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 112 Hi, all -- In the History of Kerry, I find two family first names abbreviated Mce. Any idea what that stands for? Thank you, Meg Portland, Oregon On Aug 9, 2013, at 6:34 AM, irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 111 (Maureen Fitzpatrick) > 2. Re: Been kinda quiet, folks. Check out GenealogyBank.com (Mary) > 3. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 111 (Susan Haines) > 4. New Kerry Genealogical Site --- IrelandXO Reaching Out -- > Messages for/about people from County Kerry (Ray Marshall) > 5. I sent the wrong home page for Ireland Reaching Out (Ray Marshall) > 6. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 111 (Meg) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 08:10:43 +0100 > From: Maureen Fitzpatrick <dezmau@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 111 > To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAM5iktaCA8otbajazTN3jtipBQV9e3T5_bY6nFUdU0_SbsE=jA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Thank you Ray! Have to smile seeing you 'grumpy'! Lol!! I live in > Northern Ireland but was born in South Africa where I lived all my life > until 5 years ago. I have traced my ancestors who arrived in South > Africa > - but cant trace them leaving Ireland or England. I dont have a > subscription to any paid genealogical site as I dont have the confidence > that I will find what I am looking for.. So my stonewall is still > standing > firm like most of the old ruins over here..! > > I will however be willing to assist where I can if anyone should want me > to > contact any place over here..? > > Regards, > > Maureen O'Connell > > > On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:00 AM, <irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Been kinda quiet, folks. Check out GenealogyBank.com >> (Ray Marshall) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 20:50:11 -0500 (CDT) >> From: "Ray Marshall" <ray.marshall@gmail.com> >> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Been kinda quiet, folks. Check out >> GenealogyBank.com >> To: <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <CF465D1765D14312BE241D110725515E@lydiad4cd4461f> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> So I thought I would share with you a tip that I came across recently. >> www.GenealogyBank.com Genealogy Bank somehow has digitized thousands of >> newspapers, obituaries, birth records, marriage and engagement records >> and >> passenger lists. >> >> I've been particuarly involved in going through the Duluth (Minnesota) >> News >> Tribune where I was born and where my Irish and Polish ancestors came in >> the >> 19th century. >> >> Not all newspapers are complete. [The Duluth News Tribune seems to be >> just >> between 1880-1925 or so but those are great years for me when my ggf's >> brother owned a saloon]. >> >> But what is great about Genealogy Bank is that you can do a lot of trial >> searches and you can see partial information on the results. So you can >> get >> an idea of the possibility of you finding valuable genealogical or >> historical information. Then you can sign up for $20 per month (or $50 >> per >> year) and then go to it. You can copy to your printer, or make pdf >> files. >> I did the later because I found hundreds of items, most of them very >> small >> tidbits. >> >> Like today, most of us don't get our names in the newspaper very often. >> I've found that there are several ways that would indicate a likelihood >> that >> you will find interesting/valuable information. >> >> 1. If your relative was a prominent public official. >> 2. If he owned a business and sued or got sued a lot. Newspapers always >> have court reporters. >> 3. If he drank a lot and ended up in court regularly for fighting. >> 4. If he was a petty criminal. >> 5. If he got murdered. >> >> Those aren't hypothetical instances, folks. They come from my Polish >> family. Can't find much on my Irish side other than a lot of visits in >> the >> "personals" section of the paper. Unfortunately, GenealogyBank hasn't >> digitized any newspapers from the Negaunee/Marquette region of the Upper >> Peninsula of Michigan. >> >> You do have a problem though if your relatives were named John Smith or >> >> And, of course, like with much of genealogy research, you often come >> across >> items that maybe don't relate to your family, but they are really >> delightful >> tidbits, such as this advertisement that was attached to an article on >> one >> of my relatives. >> >> ========================================= >> >> Locate the Joints [1895 newspaper advertisement] >> >> >> >> The main purpose in carving fowl and raiding opium joints is the same, >> first >> locate the joints. The chief purpose in having your eyes properly fitted >> with glasses is to find the right place to have it done. >> >> >> >> Our ambition to find a faultless eye glass guard has been realized and is >> appreciated. With this guard you have no more trouble with your eye >> glasses >> falling off in your soup, etc. We also have a modern and perfect fitting >> spec frame, which when fitted with lenses properly fitted by F.D. Day & >> Cos. >> competent optician, 315 West Superior Street, will give proper >> satisfaction. >> >> =============================================== >> >> Now get to work people! We need more action on the Kerry List. >> >> >> Ray Marshall >> Grumpy List Administrator >> Minneapolis, where we're having a very nice summer. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 111 >> ***************************************** > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 17:25:31 +1000 > From: "Mary" <mcjm52@bigpond.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Been kinda quiet, folks. Check out > GenealogyBank.com > To: "Ray Marshall" <ray.marshall@gmail.com>, <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4A8E93ED5668425D97604FA77E23F51F@x5721239Mizzi> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Yes but that is only American genealogy isnt it Ray? My interests are > in Ireland and Wales and England. > Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Marshall" <ray.marshall@gmail.com> > To: <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 11:50 AM > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Been kinda quiet, folks. Check out > GenealogyBank.com > > > So I thought I would share with you a tip that I came across recently. > www.GenealogyBank.com Genealogy Bank somehow has digitized thousands > of > newspapers, obituaries, birth records, marriage and engagement records > and > passenger lists. > > I've been particuarly involved in going through the Duluth (Minnesota) > News > Tribune where I was born and where my Irish and Polish ancestors came > in the > 19th century. > > Not all newspapers are complete. [The Duluth News Tribune seems to be > just > between 1880-1925 or so but those are great years for me when my ggf's > brother owned a saloon]. > > But what is great about Genealogy Bank is that you can do a lot of > trial > searches and you can see partial information on the results. So you > can get > an idea of the possibility of you finding valuable genealogical or > historical information. Then you can sign up for $20 per month (or > $50 per > year) and then go to it. You can copy to your printer, or make pdf > files. > I did the later because I found hundreds of items, most of them very > small > tidbits. > > Like today, most of us don't get our names in the newspaper very > often. > I've found that there are several ways that would indicate a > likelihood that > you will find interesting/valuable information. > > 1. If your relative was a prominent public official. > 2. If he owned a business and sued or got sued a lot. Newspapers > always > have court reporters. > 3. If he drank a lot and ended up in court regularly for fighting. > 4. If he was a petty criminal. > 5. If he got murdered. > > Those aren't hypothetical instances, folks. They come from my Polish > family. Can't find much on my Irish side other than a lot of visits > in the > "personals" section of the paper. Unfortunately, GenealogyBank hasn't > digitized any newspapers from the Negaunee/Marquette region of the > Upper > Peninsula of Michigan. > > You do have a problem though if your relatives were named John Smith > or > > And, of course, like with much of genealogy research, you often come > across > items that maybe don't relate to your family, but they are really > delightful > tidbits, such as this advertisement that was attached to an article on > one > of my relatives. > > ========================================= > > Locate the Joints [1895 newspaper advertisement] > > > > The main purpose in carving fowl and raiding opium joints is the same, > first > locate the joints. The chief purpose in having your eyes properly > fitted > with glasses is to find the right place to have it done. > > > > Our ambition to find a faultless eye glass guard has been realized and > is > appreciated. With this guard you have no more trouble with your eye > glasses > falling off in your soup, etc. We also have a modern and perfect > fitting > spec frame, which when fitted with lenses properly fitted by F.D. Day > & Cos. > competent optician, 315 West Superior Street, will give proper > satisfaction. > > =============================================== > > Now get to work people! We need more action on the Kerry List. > > > Ray Marshall > Grumpy List Administrator > Minneapolis, where we're having a very nice summer. > _______________ > --------------- > > Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email > to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. > > To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ > > Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the > Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach > a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact > info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 07:47:44 -0400 > From: Susan Haines <sehaines42@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 111 > To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com > Cc: irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <5204D6E0.1000204@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I can easily second Ray's comments and for New Haven, CT - I have found > some ancestors and not all were criminals! Yes, being arrested for > drinking related issues is big. Once in a while I have found a death > notice which may give relatives and address. Using that address with > the city directory (ancestry) I can figure out relatives. I am > impressed with the amount of gore that they wrote up concerning, say, > deaths from falling off a moving train. I am cheap when it comes to > genealogy but this seems to be worthwhile. > > All this is not to say that I am getting anywhere at all on my family! > (Shea, Moran, Healy, Grady in, perhaps, Killorglin or nearby) > > Sue > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 07:06:34 -0500 (CDT) > From: "Ray Marshall" <ray.marshall@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] New Kerry Genealogical Site --- IrelandXO > Reaching Out -- Messages for/about people from County Kerry > To: <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <5BFF3405A8DA41EA89CD1BFD4D5E2332@lydiad4cd4461f> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > I haven't used this site yet, but it seems interesting and apparently has > lots of contributions from people in Ireland and Kerry. Although the .com > domain suffix indicates that it may be based in the US. > > According to the "About Us" below, the concept is for people in the > townlands, cities and counties to help trace all those who have left over > the years. > > "IrelandXO currently has over 500 parishes engaged with active volunteers > assisting in answering questions and queries and are continuing our rapid > roll out to all areas in 2013. Check if your parish has a profile here" > > That applies to all the counties in Ireland. And, since I couldn't find > Knocknagoshel in County Kerry, I'm assuming by "parish" that they mean the > Civil Parish system that was used in the 19th century and so importantly > for > Griffiths and other searches. I guess that would make sense since Roman > Catholic and Church of Ireland parishes would be different and more > confusing to people. > > I did just check on the Civil Parish of Castleisland and saw a nice google > map with Townlands identified on it. There are about 50 messages on it, > all > quite recent, from yesterday, to about 18 months ago. > > There is a users manual that you can download. > http://www.irelandxo.com/resources > > I did see what I believe is a minor error in their explanation of Irish > population figures. They say that the Irish census returns before 1861 > were > destroyed in a fire. I believe that they were "pulped" beceause somebody > in > the government decided that they weren't needed and the storage space was > expensive. It was the Irish Wills in the Four Courts building that were > burned during the Civil War in the 1920s. > > > http://www.irelandxo.com/node/69/messages?page=1 > > > About Ireland Reaching Out > > The Ireland Reaching Out (IrelandXO) programme is based on a simple idea; > instead of waiting for people of Irish descent to trace their roots, we go > the other way. Working through voluntary effort at a townland, village and > parish level in Ireland, we identify who left those areas, and trace them > and their descendants worldwide. IrelandXO offers a free service and it is > a > not for profit organisation. > > If your ancestors came from Ireland and you would like to find out more > about them, we in the IrelandXO programme will endeavor to help you as > part > of your research. This reverse genealogy entails the tracing and recording > of all the people who left Ireland and seeking out their living > descendants > worldwide. Those identified or recognised as persons of Irish heritage or > affiliation are invited to become part of a new extended Irish society. > > IrelandXO offers an extraordinary opportunity for local parish communities > to extend the numbers of people committed to their parish by inviting its > own Diaspora worldwide to become involved in their place of origin. This > programme is an opportunity to boost tourism and bring economic benefit to > the area. > > IrelandXO currently has over 500 parishes engaged with active volunteers > assisting in answering questions and queries and are continuing our rapid > roll out to all areas in 2013. Check if your parish has a profile here > > Throughout the expansion of the programme we endeavour to respond to all > enquiries even in communities where we have yet to confirm a volunteer > presence. > > > Good luck in your searching. Share this site with your other genie > friends. > > > Ray Marshall > Kerry List Administrator > in balmy Minneapolis > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 07:16:52 -0500 (CDT) > From: "Ray Marshall" <ray.marshall@gmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] I sent the wrong home page for Ireland Reaching > Out > To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <5012BF7178164DF9AD7277E1788255CC@lydiad4cd4461f> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > http://www.irelandxo.com/home > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2013 06:34:22 -0700 > From: Meg <mkenagy@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 111 > To: "irl-kerry@rootsweb.com" <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <C3F9C116-7A1D-494C-81D0-4784DAA7F58D@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Thanks, Ray. I joined genealogybank.com this year and found valuable > information about my family from newspaper obituaries, death records and > police and court records. Most of my success came from The Worcester Spy > newspaper. Many Irish came to Worcester, Mass. to work in the textile > mills, building canals. > > Meg Kenagy > Portland, Oregon > > On Aug 9, 2013, at 12:00 AM, irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Been kinda quiet, folks. Check out GenealogyBank.com >> (Ray Marshall) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 20:50:11 -0500 (CDT) >> From: "Ray Marshall" <ray.marshall@gmail.com> >> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Been kinda quiet, folks. Check out >> GenealogyBank.com >> To: <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <CF465D1765D14312BE241D110725515E@lydiad4cd4461f> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> So I thought I would share with you a tip that I came across recently. >> www.GenealogyBank.com Genealogy Bank somehow has digitized thousands of >> newspapers, obituaries, birth records, marriage and engagement records >> and >> passenger lists. >> >> I've been particuarly involved in going through the Duluth (Minnesota) >> News >> Tribune where I was born and where my Irish and Polish ancestors came in >> the >> 19th century. >> >> Not all newspapers are complete. [The Duluth News Tribune seems to be >> just >> between 1880-1925 or so but those are great years for me when my ggf's >> brother owned a saloon]. >> >> But what is great about Genealogy Bank is that you can do a lot of trial >> searches and you can see partial information on the results. So you can >> get >> an idea of the possibility of you finding valuable genealogical or >> historical information. Then you can sign up for $20 per month (or $50 >> per >> year) and then go to it. You can copy to your printer, or make pdf >> files. >> I did the later because I found hundreds of items, most of them very >> small >> tidbits. >> >> Like today, most of us don't get our names in the newspaper very often. >> I've found that there are several ways that would indicate a likelihood >> that >> you will find interesting/valuable information. >> >> 1. If your relative was a prominent public official. >> 2. If he owned a business and sued or got sued a lot. Newspapers always >> have court reporters. >> 3. If he drank a lot and ended up in court regularly for fighting. >> 4. If he was a petty criminal. >> 5. If he got murdered. >> >> Those aren't hypothetical instances, folks. They come from my Polish >> family. Can't find much on my Irish side other than a lot of visits in >> the >> "personals" section of the paper. Unfortunately, GenealogyBank hasn't >> digitized any newspapers from the Negaunee/Marquette region of the Upper >> Peninsula of Michigan. >> >> You do have a problem though if your relatives were named John Smith or >> >> And, of course, like with much of genealogy research, you often come >> across >> items that maybe don't relate to your family, but they are really >> delightful >> tidbits, such as this advertisement that was attached to an article on >> one >> of my relatives. >> >> ========================================= >> >> Locate the Joints [1895 newspaper advertisement] >> >> >> >> The main purpose in carving fowl and raiding opium joints is the same, >> first >> locate the joints. The chief purpose in having your eyes properly fitted >> with glasses is to find the right place to have it done. >> >> >> >> Our ambition to find a faultless eye glass guard has been realized and is >> appreciated. With this guard you have no more trouble with your eye >> glasses >> falling off in your soup, etc. We also have a modern and perfect fitting >> spec frame, which when fitted with lenses properly fitted by F.D. Day & >> Cos. >> competent optician, 315 West Superior Street, will give proper >> satisfaction. >> >> =============================================== >> >> Now get to work people! We need more action on the Kerry List. >> >> >> Ray Marshall >> Grumpy List Administrator >> Minneapolis, where we're having a very nice summer. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to >> IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 111 >> ***************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-KERRY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 112 > ***************************************** _______________ --------------- Policies of the IRL-Kerry List: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/mailing.html To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To subscribe to the Digest version of the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-D-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. To visit the County Kerry Research and Resources Page go to: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Share your stuff! If you transcribed research data, share it with the Irish genealogy community. Contribute it to the Kerry website to reach a wide audience. Contact Ann Hammer, data maintenance. Her contact info is at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ contrib.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message John Le Garignon SGO Adh. 1828 CG22 Adh. 3757