Hi Ray, Will try to get something going re my O'Leary roots in Causeway Parish, Co. Kerry. (Bouleenshere Townland, north of Ballyheigue) Gotta find out if there are any other Bhui O'Learys whose ancestors lived in the area early 1800's, or later. Don - Indianapolis, IN -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-request <irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com> To: irl-kerry <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Jul 8, 2013 3:03 am Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 8, Issue 92 Today's Topics: 1. List has been very quiet (Ray Marshall) 2. Brandon/cloghane (sandy stegmayer) 3. One of my favorite posts (Cheryl Labrecque) Attached Message From: Ray Marshall <ray.marshall@gmail.com> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] List has been very quiet Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 11:52:39 -0500 (CDT) Greetings all. This is the management speaking. Actually there hasn't been much to manage. Actually, the list has changed over the years after it started in October 1998. As far as I know, we "peaked" with about 650 subscribers and we still have about 590, so people are hanging on. Some coming and some leaving, all the time. Many of you might not know that you can see all of the Kerry List Messages here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY/ And if you want to search all the Kerry List Messages, where there is an incredibly amount of information, you can go here: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/search?path=IRL-KERRY Try searching for "Flynn's Goat" and see what you find. Our Poet Laureate with a golden tongue, Jack Sweeney, R.I.P., contributed many delightful emails to the list and Flynn's Goat was one of his best subjects. His tastiest, of course, was the recipe for soda bread. The Kerry List has been a wonderful list with wonderful subscribers and virtually no arguing, something that some lists are known for. But the internet has changed a lot in those 25 years. Back in the olden days, there were hardly any Irish websites with genealogical information and few Irish genealogists who were on the internet to communicate with. So one of the first activities of subscribers of all lists was to contribute to a GenWeb web page where collected information was posted for everybody's use. I would imagine that few people visit there on purpose these days. The Kerry List pages are still up, but I can't recall the last time someone has contributed something to them, or corrected information altered by new findings: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ And when people couldn't find what they wanted on the Kerry page, they would come back to the list and make their request and their were always lots of people ready to help out. Most of us are at a brick wall of some kind or another during much of our genealogical careers, so helping out others is a fine way to hone our skills, re-familiarize ourselves with our research of many years past and stay in contact with our internet pals. But we don't see much contributing, or many questions these days, and when there are questions, we don't see many people ready to help out by giving some advice. Just for information, in 2003, 1279 messages were posted between January and June, 213 per month, in 2008, the number was 86 per month; and this last six months in 2013, only 36 per month. Probably the biggest culprit for that decline in activity is the incredible advances in search engine technology. Along with that would be Irish web sites that are well along in their plans to put more and more Irish information in the Internet, and of course, more and more Irish people with computers at home who we can contact directly. There is just a lot more information that we can find on the internet these days without having to ask questions of the Kerry List. But there is still value to the list because we all will arrive at brick walls and will need to ask of others how to proceed, if possible. You're probably wondering where and why I'm going here. One of our long time Kerry List subscribers emailed me the other day complaining (nicely) about the fact that while we do get regular requests from people (often in the early stages of their Kerry research), looking for help on names and places and whatever. But there aren't that many responses for them. Which means that they will be unlikely to ask another question of us. Now I know that some of you do respond to questions if you do have knowledge that might be of benefit to the questioner. And I thank you very much for that. You know who you are. But I would bet that there are many more who could add to the information. Even if there is a lot more information available on the internet these day, when it comes to looking for the names and townlands of the poor (and most of us are descended from the Irish poor), lots of help is still needed. And Griffiths Valuation and the Tithe and other census substitutes are still needed and it takes a little skill to become familiar with them. What would be nice is if those of you who have transcribed lots of records could contribute them to the Kerry Web Page There are huge gaps in the information on the Kerry Page that many of you could fill. Check it out: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlker/ Ann Hammer has been patiently waiting "on the cloud" for more contributions: aphammer@charter.net I'm not too picky on contributions to the List. If you have anything like a recipe', poem, songs, culture items, traditions, books, etc. let the List know about it. If nothing else it keeps reminding people that the List does exist for your benefit. And I truly understand that many of you are not doing much research these days. I'm one of them. I'm mostly busy organizing the thousands of files that I have collected and developed over almost 40 years so that they can be useable for others. That is my priority now as I'm well into my senior years. But my health is still pretty good, all things considering. A reminder: when you are responding to a message on the Kerry List, or any list, make sure that your contribution is reflected well in the subject line of the message header. And delete portions of messages that don't apply to your subject, too. All my best to you all. Ray Marshall Kerry List Administrator Attached Message From: sandy stegmayer <ssteg@verizon.net> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Brandon/cloghane Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 13:29:41 -0400 Hi Ray and other listers. Sorry Ray. Sadly I don’t have anything to contribute other than questions. My family is from the Brandon/Cloghane area. Names are Fitzgerald, Deady, O’Neil, and Dowd. They ended up in Holyoke MA. If anyone has a connection to not only these families, but any other families in that region, I’d appreciate hearing from you. I have names other than these that were godparents. Take care, Sandy Attached Message From: Cheryl Labrecque <chicocat007@gmail.com> To: Kerry List <IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] One of my favorite posts Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 19:15:28 -0400 Archiver <http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/> > IRL-KERRY<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY> > 2005-11<http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/IRL-KERRY/2005-11> > 1131366545 When I first joined the list, I mistook Ray's weather forecast for him announcing his birthday. Gonna be 60 Tomorrow. Of course the usually banter between Ray and Jack followed. 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