I would like to thank all those who replied to my query - I really put it up to try and engender some discussion about the multitude who did NOT appear on these lists, just take a look on the data from the National Archives or askaboutireland.ie and compare the numbers with those who appear in the Parish records for the same place at the same time. While I realise that both these items are not to be considered as substitutes for a census, they do paint an interesting picture of a place - as much for the numbers left off as anything else. And I discovered from the National Archive information on the Tithes, that a person would only be listed if they had more that 5 acres of land, which I didn't know before. But I had been told of the practise of family members farming collectively, but of course not appearing anywhere in the existing records for a particular place. I had been watching a couple of repeats of " Who Do You Think You Are " from the BBC - and the US versions, and was getting very envious of the amount of data available to those outside Ireland, and wishing that we could have a little more to help break down some extremely giant brick walls, in pretty close relatives, i.e. great grandparents. Not asking to get back to the 15th century ( as my French son in law has, lucky thing ). Mary