Hi Mary, I am at a disadvantage because the only two children I know of, I can't find together on any records. Plus, I still don't have a maiden name for their mother. So, now I am doubly disadvantaged if they don't even list all of the kids! Just about any Sullivan family could be mine! Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Simpson" <mary@msimpson.demon.co.uk> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney > Donna > Be careful of discounting families when some of the children don't show up > on Baptismal registers - in my grandfather's family in Cork, certainly > one child was not on the parish register and there was likely to have been > another who died in infancy. We were told by the Parish Priest that there > could have been a good few reasons for these discrepancies, that the baby > was sickly and had been christened hastily at home, for instance, and then > it was forgotten to enter on the parish registers later. So be cautious!! > Mary > > On 2 Sep 2007, at 21:12, Donna Russell wrote: > >> Hi Brian, >> Thank you! This tells me that this is the wrong family since Hanora >> doesn't >> show up. She was born in 1847. >> Back to the hunt.... >> Donna >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brian Moriarty" <B.Moriarty@xtra.co.nz> >> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> >> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:47 AM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney >> >> >>> Donna, >>> If you do a search on the IGI using Timothy Sullivan and Ellen Kelly as >>> parents, quoting batch number c700903 as per your info, you find the >>> following siblings: >>> 1. Julia Sullivan christened 1 Aug 1843 >>> 2. Edm. (Edmond?) Sullivan christened 9 August 1846 >>> 3. Jn (John) Sullivan christened 25 August 1849 >>> 4. Ellen Sullivan christened 29 July 1854. >>> >>> All born at the same time of year????? >>> >>> Cheers from NZ >>> >>> Brian Moriarty >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net> >>> To: "Marie Wallace" <mkatonak@mindspring.com>; "Kerry List" >>> <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 6:37 AM >>> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney >>> >>> >>>> Hi Marie, >>>> Thank you, this is helpful. Do you know if I need to know the name of >>>> the >>>> Parish? I only know that he was born in Killarney and he was >>>> Catholic--does >>>> that help narrow down where I might find the records? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Donna >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Marie Wallace" <mkatonak@mindspring.com> >>>> To: "Donna Russell" <donnarussell5@comcast.net>; "Kerry List" >>>> <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:32 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Donna, >>>>> >>>>> You have not given yourself enough time for any really good research, >>>>> but >>>>> my recommendation is that you fly in Kerry Airport, go to the Catholic >>>>> Church OFFICE and ask them if the holder of the chuch records could >>>>> help >>>>> (usually the deacon)locate any information for you. He keeps the >>>>> records >>>>> in the vestry behind the altar. DO NOT MENTION THAT YOU ARE DOING >>>>> GENEALOGY WORK! It turns them all off on Americans and they clam up on >>>>> you. We were fortunate that my husband was applying for his Irish >>>>> Citizenship and needed the records of his grandparents and great >>>>> grandparents. >>>>> >>>>> BE AWARE! Nobody in Ireland wants you to see the church records >>>>> without >>>>> "crossing their palms with GOLD"! When my husband and I went they >>>>> would >>>>> only pull out the printouts that the Mormons had done and I had >>>>> already >>>>> gotten all the information from the LDS records before going. >>>>> >>>>> GOOD LUCK! >>>>> >>>>> Marie >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Donna Russell <donnarussell5@comcast.net> >>>>>> Sent: Sep 2, 2007 11:45 AM >>>>>> To: Kerry List <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Trip to Killarney >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Everyone, >>>>>> Now that summer is coming to an end, vacation is over, and school >>>>>> supplies >>>>>> have been purchased, I am ready to get back on the trail of my >>>>>> elusive >>>>>> ancestors from Killarney! I have made my reservations--I am in London >>>>>> from >>>>>> October 17 through noon on the 20th for a conference and I have >>>>>> booked a >>>>>> flight home from London (Heathrow) on Wednesday the 24th. So, I now >>>>>> have >>>>>> to decide how much time to spend in Ireland v. London--I have never >>>>>> been >>>>>> to either place. I have found flights from Gatwick and Stansted that >>>>>> will >>>>>> get me to either Cork or Kerry. I have to return to London very early >>>>>> Wednesday morning so I don't have much time. Having never been to >>>>>> either >>>>>> place, I'm trying to decide how much time to spend in London before >>>>>> heading to Ireland. So, my first question is: what do you recommend? >>>>>> Spending most of my free time in Ireland or splitting my time between >>>>>> both >>>>>> places? I'd like to take a tour of the city--bus or walking--and at >>>>>> least >>>>>> see the British Museum. Is it possible to do t! >>>>>> hat in 2 half days? I arrive around noon on Wednesday and, if I'm not >>>>>> too >>>>>> exhausted, can do something that day. I also have from noon on >>>>>> Saturday. >>>>>> My second question is: Is it better to fly into Cork and drive to >>>>>> Killarney and see some more of the country, or fly straight into the >>>>>> Kerry Airport? >>>>>> >>>>>> Finally, I have not gotten any closer to finding my g-grandmother's >>>>>> maiden >>>>>> name. But I did see in the Family Search database a baptism that >>>>>> might >>>>>> be >>>>>> my g-uncle. The problem is that I have no idea what to do next! I >>>>>> don't >>>>>> know what possible information might be contained in these records. >>>>>> Would >>>>>> it list other children and their birth dates? If so, I would hope to >>>>>> find >>>>>> my g-grandmother since she was 2 years older than him. Here is what I >>>>>> found (I've bolded the text that have links to follow): >>>>>> >>>>>> JN Sullivan, Male >>>>>> Christening: 25 AUG 1849 Roman Catholic, Killarney, Kerry, Ireland >>>>>> Parents: >>>>>> Father: TY. Sullivan >>>>>> Mother: Ellen Kelly >>>>>> >>>>>> Messages: >>>>>> Extracted birth or christening record for the locally listed in the >>>>>> record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by >>>>>> the >>>>>> birth or christening event. >>>>>> >>>>>> Source information: >>>>>> Batch No. C700903 >>>>>> Date: 1840 >>>>>> Source Call No.: 823804-805, 0823809 >>>>>> Type: Book >>>>>> Printout Call No.: 0883698 >>>>>> Type: Film >>>>>> >>>>>> Batch No.: C700903 >>>>>> Dates: 1840-1865 >>>>>> Source Call No. 0823804-805, 0823809 >>>>>> Type: Film >>>>>> Printout Call No.: NONE >>>>>> >>>>>> Batch No.: C700903 >>>>>> Dates: 1865-1875 >>>>>> Source Call No.: 0823804-805, 0823809 >>>>>> Type: Film >>>>>> Printout Call No.: NONE >>>>>> >>>>>> I am hoping someone can tell me what I need to do to gain access to >>>>>> these >>>>>> records and if there is a good strategy for searching. What does it >>>>>> mean >>>>>> if there is no printout call number? Any advice will be greatly >>>>>> appreciated! At this point, I don't really have any trail to follow >>>>>> once >>>>>> I >>>>>> arrive in Killarney. All I know is that my g-grandmother and a >>>>>> brother >>>>>> were born there in 1847 and 1849 and their Dad's name. I also know >>>>>> they >>>>>> arrived in America in 1866. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your help! >>>>>> >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>> the >>>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >