Could anybody out there with some specialist knowledge give some help on an interesting puzzle that has had me wondering for some time? It concerns a very small township in the parish of Ballinhassig / Templemichael just south west of Cork city off the road to Inishannon. In 1812 a church was built ( Church of Ireland ) and a couple of years later a glebe house for the Rector, J.R. Meade, plus a school and schoolhouse. By 1860 the glebe house was " in a state of decay" and in 1884 the church " was taken down and it's glebe was sold". And in the Rate books it states that in 1885 " the old glebehouse was burned". In 1880, my g.g. grandfather is listed in the Rate Books in the Valuation Office in Dublin as renting from the incumbent Rev J Grant in fee, 5 acres of glebe, plus the dilapidated glebe house plus the schoolhouse - plus the church!!!??? By 1885 his son, my g. grandfather was listed as renting in fee the 5 acres of glebe only, later a house was added. My questions are these; 1 - How could my g.g. grandfather be renting the church? I can understand perhaps renting the land, and even maybe the schoolhouse ( his daughter in law, my g. grandmother was meant to have been a teacher ) but how could the church be rented by him? Especially as it was still in use. 2 - Is it at all possible, given the period ( 1884 - 1885 ) that the Land Wars could have come into it? I can find no hard evidence, but there is a family story of "land trouble and dispossession" at this period. Does anybody have any idea of further sources of information covering this period of time and place ( Cork )? I have looked at the Church of Ireland sources for the parish, but they only state the bare facts, and not the history behind it. By the way, my family were Catholic, although they were buried in the little churchyard along with their Protestant neighbours. Mary

Mary: I have no knowledge, but I am never without opinions and guesses. By 1885 there may have been no parishioners left in at that CofI parish near Cork City. But parishes were always deemed to be sources of income for pastors and bishops. So it probably would have been permissible for a pastor to rent out the church building if it was not needed any longer. Ray Marshall Minneapolis -----Original Message----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Mary Simpson Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 4:48 AM To: IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com; Irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] A conundrum Could anybody out there with some specialist knowledge give some help on an interesting puzzle that has had me wondering for some time? It concerns a very small township in the parish of Ballinhassig / Templemichael just south west of Cork city off the road to Inishannon. In 1812 a church was built ( Church of Ireland ) and a couple of years later a glebe house for the Rector, J.R. Meade, plus a school and schoolhouse. By 1860 the glebe house was " in a state of decay" and in 1884 the church " was taken down and it's glebe was sold". And in the Rate books it states that in 1885 " the old glebehouse was burned". In 1880, my g.g. grandfather is listed in the Rate Books in the Valuation Office in Dublin as renting from the incumbent Rev J Grant in fee, 5 acres of glebe, plus the dilapidated glebe house plus the schoolhouse - plus the church!!!??? By 1885 his son, my g. grandfather was listed as renting in fee the 5 acres of glebe only, later a house was added. My questions are these; 1 - How could my g.g. grandfather be renting the church? I can understand perhaps renting the land, and even maybe the schoolhouse ( his daughter in law, my g. grandmother was meant to have been a teacher ) but how could the church be rented by him? Especially as it was still in use. 2 - Is it at all possible, given the period ( 1884 - 1885 ) that the Land Wars could have come into it? I can find no hard evidence, but there is a family story of "land trouble and dispossession" at this period. Does anybody have any idea of further sources of information covering this period of time and place ( Cork )? I have looked at the Church of Ireland sources for the parish, but they only state the bare facts, and not the history behind it. By the way, my family were Catholic, although they were buried in the little churchyard along with their Protestant neighbours. Mary ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.11/838 - Release Date: 6/7/2007 2:21 PM