unsubscribe On 17/07/2007, at 8:54 AM, irl-kerry-request@rootsweb.com wrote: Today's Topics: 1. Re: TB Patients Early 1900s Ireland (Fintan Sheehan) 2. Re: I am sick of it - please unsubscribe me (Susan Tait Porcaro) 3. Re: TB Patients Early 1900s Ireland (Lizziems@aol.com) 4. Re: How to deal with topics that interest us.... (TeachSurfn@aol.com) 5. Re: Canal Workers named Sweeney (mrcarmean@sbcglobal.net) 6. Re: Canal Workers named Sweeney (John L. Sweeney) 7. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 195 (daniel j dwyer) 8. Ireland an America's Cup contender? (John L. Sweeney) 9. Re: Other Kerrymen (Donal O'Kelly) 10. Re: Canal Workers named Sweeney (mrcarmean@sbcglobal.net) 11. Variants on Irish Surnames (Mary Simpson) 12. Beara Woman Talking (Mary Simpson) From: Fintan Sheehan <fintansheehan@yahoo.ie> Date: 16 July 2007 6:29:29 PM To: MonicaBOS@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] TB Patients Early 1900s Ireland Hi, AFAIK Kerry had a higher incidence of TB than other counties. Edenburn was a TB hospital outside Tralee. Think its closed and not sure if they have any records for genealogy research. My dad and his sister moved from Kerry to Longford for a period when they were teenagers IN 1920's to avoid TB. Regards, Fintan ----- Original Message ---- From: "MonicaBOS@aol.com" <MonicaBOS@aol.com> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 15 July, 2007 10:09:10 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] TB Patients Early 1900s Ireland My father had TB three times, lost a kidney to it and is now 87 years young. His father William McSheehy and William's identical twin Francis, both died of TB the same year my father was born, 1920. As I have done my family search, I keep finding family that died of TB all on my father's side, not my mother's. So I am wondering, and I know this is a "reach", if my mother's folk (Co. Mayo) not having TB was just luck or is there a susceptibility among the Kerry folk to TB. Just curious. I do know that because of my father, I have been told that I need to be screened for it for the rest of my life and the last time he had it was around 1959. Monica ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ New Yahoo! Mail is the ultimate force in competitive emailing. Find out more at the Yahoo! Mail Championships. Plus: play games and win prizes. http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://mail.yahoo.net/uk From: "Susan Tait Porcaro" <suetaitporcaro@comcast.net> Date: 16 July 2007 8:37:24 PM To: "Valeris Garton" <vbgarton@optusnet.com.au>, <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] I am sick of it - please unsubscribe me Reply-To: Susan Tait Porcaro <suetaitporcaro@comcast.net> you need to unsub yourself..... to the request list, not the main mailing list I am not sick of it ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valeris Garton" <vbgarton@optusnet.com.au> To: <IRL-Kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 7:58 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] I am sick of it - please unsubscribe me > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message From: Lizziems@aol.com Date: 16 July 2007 10:44:37 PM To: MonicaBOS@aol.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] TB Patients Early 1900s Ireland TB came from many sources, which people never gave thought to. Back before milk was pastureized, cows could carry the TB germ and then whomever drank the milk from the infected cow, got the desease. We had neighbors when I was growing up that had that happen to them. First the eldest brother was admitted to a sanitarium for TB. No one knew where he got it from. Then the younger brother got TB and was admitted with his older brother. Then the mother got TB, by this time, the two boys had died, and the local authorities stepped in to find out what was causing the problem. They discovered the cow. There were two young girls that for some reason escaped the problem. I grew up with them and they had to get checked every year and was always free of the germ. The father on the other hand was not so lucky, and he died of TB when the girls were in grade school, around the seventh or eights grades. They were sent to live with an Aunt. Last week, the oldest daughter died at age 74 from a heart attack and the younger daughter is still alive and well. - They must have had a natural amunity or were just lucky????? I know they drank the milk!! Liz ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From: TeachSurfn@aol.com Date: 16 July 2007 11:29:48 PM To: irl-kerry-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] How to deal with topics that interest us.... In a message dated 7/15/2007 10:15:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, merossi1@yahoo.com writes: Gee folks, it seems to me there is a very simple solution to deal with reading about married priests if you don't want to...or any other topic...its called the "DELETE" button. I use it often and it saves me much aggravation. I open up my inbox and check all of the mail that looks uninteresting and delete and read the rest. Its not so difficult.... All the best Mary Ellen Rossi ----------------------------------- I totally agree that this kind of strident action is not called for. I thought I was done with parochial school a long long time ago! But, I guess not! What's even MORE interesting is that off-topic topics are still entertained like boating or over-rated Irish poets. Guess the rules just apply to some. Tolerance seems to be a highly selective thing here lately. Btw, lively discussion has always been a hallmark of the other Irish lists I belong to. Maybe way off topic for this list but neither should it give some delicate souls 'the vapors.' Just my 2 cents; ought to be yours. LOL. Eileen ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour From: <mrcarmean@sbcglobal.net> Date: 16 July 2007 9:46:01 PM To: <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Canal Workers named Sweeney lol Must of been the other Sweeney's in that case Jack. Sadly the name of those who died under fire weren't recorded. Just more Irish riff-raff. I was amazed to see that while this town filled with Irish it was still run by the old WASP gentry. That is until the County Kerry bunch got a foot hold. The first group of Irish to break into city government were all Kerrymen. That wasn't until the latter part of the century. I have a letter written by my great grandfather James Walsh b. 1849 which is quite amazing. He was very well educated back in Kerry even though they didn't have the proverbial pot. Margaret From: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> Date: 17 July 2007 12:33:52 AM To: <mrcarmean@sbcglobal.net>, <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Canal Workers named Sweeney Good Morning Margaret: Let the "truth be known", there are no "other Sweeney's". It must be genetic but we are all alike, a pleasant rabble. The "pleasant" is most important, it sort of softens the impact of the other reality. Love, Jack Sweeney, looking out the window at a beautiful morning in Palmer, Pennsylvania. From: daniel j dwyer <bigdand1@juno.com> Date: 17 July 2007 12:40:47 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 195 From: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net> Date: 17 July 2007 1:13:17 AM To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Ireland an America's Cup contender? Good Morning All: My Fenit contacts have informed me that no Irish America's Cup contender was ever built in the Fenit boat yard. All of Lipton's Shamrock entries were built in either Scotland or England. Evidently, Ireland was considered a part of the U.K. at the time and it was legal to build her entry in any of the "British Isles". This ends the "Ireland an America's Cup contender" topic since no Kerry boat yard built any of the Shamrocks. The crews though, practiced in the Shannon Estuary and were Kerrymen for the most part. Love, Jack Sweeney, taking nourishment in Palmer, Pennsylvania. From: "Donal O'Kelly" <ocollaugh@comcast.net> Date: 17 July 2007 1:47:33 AM To: <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Other Kerrymen There is a story about Kerrymen on the run who became Indian Chiefs in colonial era America. I'll attach that story to private email if anyone is interested. Don Kelly From: <mrcarmean@sbcglobal.net> Date: 17 July 2007 2:03:42 AM To: "John L. Sweeney" <sweelab@enter.net>, <IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] Canal Workers named Sweeney I have no doubt that the Canal Sweeney was a most likeable fellow too. Up to this point there was a running war between the Irish. He was able to unite them long enough to take up arms (well in this case sticks and rocks) against the Canal Overlords. To find a common ground considering the ugliness taking place just proves he was gifted with a golden tongue and a pleasing personality. ;-) Margaret From: Mary Simpson <mary@msimpson.demon.co.uk> Date: 17 July 2007 3:44:05 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com, IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com, irL-WEXFORD@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Variants on Irish Surnames Have been reading a lovely book " Beara Woman Talking " collected by Tadhg O Murchu, edited by Martin Verling, ( Mercier Press, ISBN 1-85635-417-2 ) and in it it gives the name MINIHANE as la local ( SW Cork ) form of the name O DRISCOLL.............. Are there any sources on line that can be used to find out other variants of surnames? You could be spending a long time trying to look up one, only to find that you should have been researching a different name altogether! Don't you just LOVE the way that Irish genealogy out-twists the most fiendish puzzles known...... Just when you think that you " know " something, the ground opens up - and it's summat else entirely!! Slan Mary From: Mary Simpson <mary@msimpson.demon.co.uk> Date: 17 July 2007 8:52:59 AM To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com, IRL-CORK@rootsweb.com, IRL-WEXFORD@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Beara Woman Talking Kathleen This book is a collection of the recollections of a life of a woman, Peig Minihane ( O Driscoll ), born 1861, in the parish of Kilcatherine, on the Beara Penisular in south west Cork, in the years about 1939. They cover all aspects of life and death in a small farming and fishing community, and stories of the past, famine, and the sidh. It is a great read, and does inevitably mention other families and names and places, usually nearby, but could not be considered a genealogical source unless you know that your family is from that part of Ireland. It's a story about storytelling..... 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