Carol, Though I have a John Downey gr3 grandfather, I doubt there is a direct connection (born abt 1895, to US in Pennsylvania 1825, to Ohio by 1830). Do you have any dates for the events you listed? This may help identify info sources. David in VA ----- Original Message ----- From: irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com <irl-kerry-bounces@rootsweb.com> To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat Jul 28 03:06:02 2007 Subject: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 211 Today's Topics: 1. Downey-Weston (Carol Landry-Fiske) 2. Re: O'Sullivan of Co Kerry (CLabre1068@aol.com) 3. request to diocese (Doug Yorke) 4. Re: request to diocese (Neil Walton) 5. Re: IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 206 (CLabre1068@aol.com) 6. Re: request to diocese (CLabre1068@aol.com) 7. Re: request to diocese (Kathleen Conway) 8. Re: request to diocese (Doug Yorke) 9. Re: request to diocese (CLabre1068@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:42:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Carol Landry-Fiske <vagabondiam@yahoo.com> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Downey-Weston To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <224970.50641.qm@web32511.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Weston Whetston Wheston Whatston Whatson Whiston Whistone Whitestone I am once again looking for Ellen Downey (Downing, Downy) married to Patrick W...........a farmer in Ballydribbeen. I have a copy of the parish record where all the children have been baptised and it clearly states Ballydribbeen. I would like to know the Downey connection (supposedly her dad took the family to Chicago/Detroit and they returned but dad remained there)......... Carol in kinda sunny FL ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:41:02 EDT From: CLabre1068@aol.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] O'Sullivan of Co Kerry To: mollyesp@yahoo.com, IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <d4d.9e286d9.33dbb25e@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello Molly, On familysearch.org there is a family of John Lyne and Johanna Sullivan May 1866, Mary b. Molahiffe Sep 1868, Peter b. Molahiffe Jul 13, 1871, Johana b. Kerry Mar 1879, John b. Cooles, Kerry There is also a John & Hannah with 1868, Patrick, Currow 1871 Hannah, Currow 1873 Timothy, Killarney 1874 Mary, Killarney ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:43:45 -0500 From: Doug Yorke <dyorke@comcast.net> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] request to diocese To: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <46AA5901.4090402@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed just emailed a request to the Bishop's office in Kerry. Received a reply WITHIN THE HOUR and they will snailmail me written approval to research records in Dublin. I'm currently looking for pre-1850 information on my GG grandfather, Thomas Teahan, and GG grandmother, Ellen Fitzgerald. My question would be.....if I visit the Kerry library and the church in Ardfert, is there anything to be gained by stopping at the Dublin Library?? (we will be there PRIOR to going to Kerry) Doug ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:53:37 +0100 From: "Neil Walton" <waltonfamilytree@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] request to diocese To: "Doug Yorke" <dyorke@comcast.net>, <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <C508960030BB4DA086C77DC27A2BD8DB@Lappy> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Doug The parish records accessible on microfilm at the National Library in Dublin are incomplete. This link shows what is available for Ardfert: http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/fuses/rcparishmaps/index.cfm?fuseaction=showidrecords&CityCounty=Kerry&parish=Ardfert&churchid=648 Whether the missing years are available locally at the church, or whether they simply don't exist, I don't know. If you find out, perhaps you could let me/us know. I recently searched the Ardfert parish records at the National Library and have to say they're not easy to decipher; some I just couldn't make out at all. Generally, the older records were the hardest to read. Having said that, it's probably quicker to go through one reel of microfilm than the original records. Hope this helps. Neil Murus aeneus virtus - Virtue is a wall of brass ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Yorke" <dyorke@comcast.net> To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:43 PM Subject: [IRL-KERRY] request to diocese > just emailed a request to the Bishop's office in Kerry. Received a reply > WITHIN THE HOUR and they will snailmail me written approval to research > records in Dublin. > > I'm currently looking for pre-1850 information on my GG grandfather, > Thomas Teahan, and GG grandmother, Ellen Fitzgerald. My question would > be.....if I visit the Kerry library and the church in Ardfert, is there > anything to be gained by stopping at the Dublin Library?? (we will be > there PRIOR to going to Kerry) > > Doug > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:34:04 EDT From: CLabre1068@aol.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] IRL-KERRY Digest, Vol 2, Issue 206 To: poncan_gael@yahoo.com, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <ccb.154ba81d.33dbccdc@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Kate Mansell immigrated Sept 5 1896 (Ireland to NYC no other information) and in the 1900 census Kate Mansell b. 1877 Ireland living in Manhattan servant. Most of the other Mansell Ifamilies I find immigrating from Dingle to Holyoke MA. Do you have the marriage cert of Katherine and Charles Moran, 1904? ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:56:40 EDT From: CLabre1068@aol.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] request to diocese To: waltonfamilytree@googlemail.com, dyorke@comcast.net, irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c50.17cc6f0e.33dbd228@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hello Doug, I will assume you have the births of Mary 1840, Maurice 1843 and Patrick 1844 from familysearch.org but have you actually looked them up in the Casey Collection which may give you a townland if you don't already have that. Cheryl ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:42:52 -0700 From: "Kathleen Conway" <kmconway@charter.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] request to diocese To: "Neil Walton" <waltonfamilytree@googlemail.com>, "Doug Yorke" <dyorke@comcast.net>, <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <08e801c7d0a7$d977a040$0200a8c0@KathsComputer> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Neil - and Doug, I don't know if the records have been moved, but when I visited in 1983 I went through the original baptismal registration books that were right at St.Brendan's in Ardfert. They were in the original script and not difficult to read at all. The other church there (can't remember the name, but it may be St.Mary's) was built in 1875, so I think the records you want would be from St.Brendan's. Doug - what is the e-mail for the bishop's office to gain permission? I don't have any plans to visit Ireland at this point, but wonder if gaining permission would give me access on e-mail, or through mail request. Please let me know. Thanks. Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Walton" <waltonfamilytree@googlemail.com> To: "Doug Yorke" <dyorke@comcast.net>; <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] request to diocese > Doug > > The parish records accessible on microfilm at the National Library in > Dublin > are incomplete. This link shows what is available for Ardfert: > http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/fuses/rcparishmaps/index.cfm?fuseaction=showidrecords&CityCounty=Kerry&parish=Ardfert&churchid=648 > > Whether the missing years are available locally at the church, or whether > they simply don't exist, I don't know. If you find out, perhaps you could > let me/us know. > > I recently searched the Ardfert parish records at the National Library and > have to say they're not easy to decipher; some I just couldn't make out at > all. Generally, the older records were the hardest to read. Having said > that, it's probably quicker to go through one reel of microfilm than the > original records. > > Hope this helps. > > Neil > > > > Murus aeneus virtus - Virtue is a wall of brass > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Yorke" <dyorke@comcast.net> > To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:43 PM > Subject: [IRL-KERRY] request to diocese > >> just emailed a request to the Bishop's office in Kerry. Received a reply >> WITHIN THE HOUR and they will snailmail me written approval to research >> records in Dublin. >> >> I'm currently looking for pre-1850 information on my GG grandfather, >> Thomas Teahan, and GG grandmother, Ellen Fitzgerald. My question would >> be.....if I visit the Kerry library and the church in Ardfert, is there >> anything to be gained by stopping at the Dublin Library?? (we will be >> there PRIOR to going to Kerry) >> >> Doug >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:49:15 -0500 From: Doug Yorke <dyorke@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] request to diocese To: Kathleen Conway <kmconway@charter.net> Cc: irl-kerry@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <46AA928B.7060604@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed email address for Kerry diocese is bishopshouse@eircom.net. They asked me for my mailing address so they could (snail)mail it to me. Doug Kathleen Conway wrote: > Neil - and Doug, > I don't know if the records have been moved, but when I visited in > 1983 I went through the original baptismal registration books that > were right at St.Brendan's in Ardfert. They were in the original > script and not difficult to read at all. The other church there (can't > remember the name, but it may be St.Mary's) was built in 1875, so I > think the records you want would be from St.Brendan's. > > Doug - what is the e-mail for the bishop's office to gain permission? > I don't have any plans to visit Ireland at this point, but wonder if > gaining permission would give me access on e-mail, or through mail > request. > > Please let me know. > Thanks. > Kathleen > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Walton" > <waltonfamilytree@googlemail.com> > To: "Doug Yorke" <dyorke@comcast.net>; <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 2:53 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] request to diocese > > >> Doug >> >> The parish records accessible on microfilm at the National Library in >> Dublin >> are incomplete. This link shows what is available for Ardfert: >> http://www.ireland.com/ancestor/fuses/rcparishmaps/index.cfm?fuseaction=showidrecords&CityCounty=Kerry&parish=Ardfert&churchid=648 >> >> >> Whether the missing years are available locally at the church, or >> whether >> they simply don't exist, I don't know. If you find out, perhaps you >> could >> let me/us know. >> >> I recently searched the Ardfert parish records at the National >> Library and >> have to say they're not easy to decipher; some I just couldn't make >> out at >> all. Generally, the older records were the hardest to read. Having said >> that, it's probably quicker to go through one reel of microfilm than the >> original records. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Neil >> >> >> >> Murus aeneus virtus - Virtue is a wall of brass >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Doug Yorke" <dyorke@comcast.net> >> To: <irl-kerry@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 9:43 PM >> Subject: [IRL-KERRY] request to diocese >> >>> just emailed a request to the Bishop's office in Kerry. Received a >>> reply >>> WITHIN THE HOUR and they will snailmail me written approval to research >>> records in Dublin. >>> >>> I'm currently looking for pre-1850 information on my GG grandfather, >>> Thomas Teahan, and GG grandmother, Ellen Fitzgerald. My question would >>> be.....if I visit the Kerry library and the church in Ardfert, is there >>> anything to be gained by stopping at the Dublin Library?? (we will be >>> there PRIOR to going to Kerry) >>> >>> Doug >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:22:20 EDT From: CLabre1068@aol.com Subject: Re: [IRL-KERRY] request to diocese To: dyorke@comcast.net, IRL-KERRY-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <bf1.1893ddf3.33dbf44c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Doug, Thanks to Ray Marshall, there is an index of the Casey Collection online. You would need to order the appropriate volume or volumes from your local family history library (or check the list at the bottom for a local university) to gain the information needed. It looks like volume 8 would give you the marriage record and births you are looking for. You have the dates so it shouldn't be too difficult to find the information. I have found that the Casey Collection gives the parents names on marriage records and townland on birth records. This way you might be able to connect the local sexton for a local of the graves before your trip. _http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlker/caseydescription.html_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlker/caseydescription.html) Cheryl ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-KERRY list administrator, send an email to IRL-KERRY-admin@rootsweb.com. 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