My QUINLAN family lived in and around the Killarney area. Although my direct ancestor, my great grandfather Patrick Quinlan, immigrated in 1850, many of his family stayed. The family was educated at hedge schools according to the descendents of those who stayed in Ireland. Additionally, Lord Kenmare (Browne family) was a Catholic lord and reputed to be a tad more lenient than some landlords in other other areas. Although the Herberts (Muckross) were not Catholics, they also treated their tenants better than most according to the descendents of the family who stayed, thus the greater possibilities for education. My great grandfather could read and write and my great grandmother from Wexford could not. Jeanne Delaney Hubbard -----Original Message----- >From: Amanda Clifford <mave77@comcast.net> >Sent: Jul 29, 2007 2:45 PM >To: IRL-KERRY@rootsweb.com >Subject: [IRL-KERRY] Education in Famine Ireland/Kerry > >Hello, > > > >I am still trying to pinpoint from where in Kerry my great-great grandfather >was from - he was born approx. 1837. > > > >In the process of determining this, I've come across a curious bit of >information - he was born in Kerry and lived there through the famine until >probably about 1861 (he shows up in Wales in 1863 when he married my >great-great grandmother, also from Kerry - but he's nowhere to be found on >the Wales or England 1860 census so I'm guessing he was still in Ireland). > > > >In any event, when he married, he was able to sign his own name whereas his >wife was not, indicating that he must have been educated - in addition, when >he became naturalized as an American citizen in about 1887, he also signed >his own name - (please note that his in both Wales and Pittsburgh he worked >in the steel mills). > > > >My question is basically - how did he get educated in Kerry (most likely the >southwestern portion) during famine? Please note that he was Catholic. > > > >I'm wondering if anyone has any information about what education for >children living in most likely rural areas of southwestern Ireland might >have been like during famine. > > > >Particularly, the places I've narrowed down are: > > > > >Townland > >Civil Parish > >Church Parishes > > > > > > > > > >Ardmore > >Kilcrochane > >Caherdaniel > >Sneem > > >Ballybane > >Molahiffe > >Molahiffe > >Firies > > >Coolgarriv > >Aghadoe > >Fossa > >Part Glenfesk (see Killaha) > >Killorglin > >Killarney > > >Coomnahincha > > > >Killinane > >See Caherciveen (Caher) > > >Derreen > >Dromod > >Dromod (Waterville) > > >Drom > >Glanbehy > >Glenbeigh aka Glanbehy aka Glanbeigh > > >Dungeagan > >Prior > >Prior (Ballinskelligs) > > >Garryglass > >Dromod > >Dromod (Waterville) > > >Keeas > >Knockane > >Killorglin > >Tuogh > >Glanbeigh > > >Killurly East > >Killinane > >Caherciveen (Caher) > > >Reacaslagh > >Ballincuslane > >Knockagoshel > >Brosna > >Castleisland > > >Shronaloughane > > > >Dromod > >Dromod (Waterville) > > >Strandsend > >Killinane > >See Caherciveen (Caher) > > > > > >I'm wondering, for example, if any of the above locations might indicate a >difference in terms of the educational resources available. > > > >Any information greatly appreciated! > > > >Thanks. > > > >-A > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-KERRY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message